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[kvk1]

I think that was basically the choice Dendi made when the team kicked their 2 good players in order to keep xboct*

Yeah, I think this is the commonly accepted course of events.

 

[Qvoth]

navi will never let dendi leave, i'd even say he's their mascot now

 

[Vaudeville Villain]

Bfury imo. The increased speed you clear creep waves with the Bfury makes it worth it.

I went stick/pms -> bfury -> bots -> aghs -> bfly

I took this route. While, yes, I did clear the Waves faster, I kinda wish I went aghs first, the increased jumps could have copped me a few extra kills early on.

Spoiler

I'm going to pretend that I didn't use my ult when creeps were present

 

[sixghost]

Why are people building bfury on jugg again? Phase drums aghs then stack attack speed like mjollnir, butterfly, manta/sny has always been the type of build I see do well on that hero.

 

[ViviOggi]

Babbyfury on Juggernaut is so fucking bad in any stage of the game

 

[TheCrow]

I was going to post about how I refuse to give up on battlefurry jugs. Then I noticed I haven't played him in 5 months or since I started queuing high/very higih. And even then I lost both high skill games with BF. Dream is dead.

 

[Sliver]

Aui is streaming a Jugg game right now with Battlefury so....

 

[Acinixys]

Bfury imo. The increased speed you clear creep waves with the Bfury makes it worth it.

I went stick/pms -> bfury -> bots -> aghs -> bfly

Babbyfury on Juggernaut is so fucking bad in any stage of the game

What Vi said

BF is rubbish on Juggs

You get a 20 min BF and then what? Farm some more for real items?

You should be farming enemy supports with Omnislash every time its on CD

Phase/Treads - PMS - Aghs - Maelstrom. If you have this at 25 mins or so the enemy team is screwed,

 

[evlcookie]

I played Jugg a few times over the weekend. Went PWS > Phase > Aghs > Basher into Abyss. After that it was just whatever I felt like.

Won all of the games with that build plus i'm really enjoying playing Jugg at the moment. So it was a good weekend of dota.

 

[Wendel Clark]

lifestealer is such a trash hero

yeah

I like the TRAPPED feeling you get when you no longer wanna play but are stuck in the game

 

[Kard8p3]

idk I've been playing jugg a lot lately and i've had some p good luck (10 out of my last 11 matches in the past 2 and a half weeks or so are wins) with RoA>Travels>Yasha>Aghs>Manta>Situational(Diffusal/Mael/Bfly/etc)

tho Im sure someone better with Juggernaut could offer some insight.

 

[Vaudeville Villain]

Yup, went aghs before anything else, much better. Those extra jumps, esp on supports, is just too good to pass up

 

[G.ZZZ]

If you want to go for farming, get a Mael, bfury is overkill. In general going for megalategame with an hero like Jugg that does nothing lategame is stupid. Go for early-midgame, that's when you'll feel that +6 starting agi difference. I reccomend Phase->Aquila/Drums-> Mael/Aghs.
I still don't have a build that i like particularly on him, but my old spamerino build was: go offlane, get 2 clarities 1 tango some branches, rush phase into Aghs and play a bit like Void offlane, ganking/fighting everytime you get an ulti up, then farm for more utility shit later (i went aghs->basher all the time back then, but mael is probably more worth it than basher earlier on now for farming, basher later).

 

[SneakyStephan]

o.0 I just got a full spirit breaker set at the end of a match? something something "bundle"
I thought nothing dropped anymore.

 

[Aselith]

o.0 I just got a full spirit breaker set at the end of a match? something something "bundle"
I thought nothing dropped anymore.

Why are you full of lies?

 

[Zoon]

akke playing for team standin

Spoiler

Kappa

 

[Akim]

Shouldn't there be a standin rule....like max 1? Could you imagine a professional sports team having standins?

 

[xanavi]

Shouldn't there be a standin rule....like max 1? Could you imagine a professional sports team having standins?

Professional sports teams have call-ups and deeper rosters. It's not really comparable.

 

[manfestival]

o.0 I just got a full spirit breaker set at the end of a match? something something "bundle"
I thought nothing dropped anymore.

only sets drop and sometimes a treasure. I have had two sets drop so far since this nonsense began

 

[Ember Spirit]

Shouldn't there be a standin rule....like max 1? Could you imagine a professional sports team having standins?

well I guess teams could have a bench but top teams would hoard all the good players so the scene would turn to shit

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Do you think there should be a mode that allows mirror matches?

 

[Chris R]

Leave my trash trench jugg build alone ;_;

 

[inkls]

Do you think there should be a mode that allows mirror matches?

No.

 

[Haly]

Jugg is not a farming carry. You can play him like one, but unless you really like jugg you're better off playing andy maggy or PA.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Jugg is not a farming carry. You can play him like one, but unless you really like jugg you're better off playing andy maggy or PA.

Indeed. Every time that ult is off cooldown, you should be looking to put yourself in position to use it. As such, the best Jugg items tend to be those that (a) help put him in the best position to use the ult and (b) items that maximize his damage dealt while ulting. It's all about the ult and using it well. That's why aghs rush is a big thing.

 

[Monochromaticx]

re-match of VP vs Secret bo5 dota pit finals
http://www.twitch.tv/dotapit

 

[Night_Hand]

reminder the only reason to pick up battlefury is because omnislash cleaves too

 

[JustinBB7]

Wasn't he at last international?

Edit: oh no, only thing I remember him from is LD mentioning his name a few times

 

[Monochromaticx]

Wasn't he at last international?

Edit: oh no, only thing I remember him from is LD mentioning his name a few times

He was with MUFC in TI2.
RIP Sharky

 

[Acinixys]

re-match of VP vs Secret bo5 dota pit finals
http://www.twitch.tv/dotapit

Secret always seem so shaky when a series starts

Im sure they will 3 - 1 or 3 - 2 VP again though

 

[sleverfunk]

Rip sharky.
He was supposed to be at ti2 but mufc got replaced.

 

[Chris R]

Jugg is not a farming carry. You can play him like one, but unless you really like jugg you're better off playing andy maggy or PA.

AM/PA/ect were not left in the pool for me to pick, Random Draft. Omni did make short work of Kotl and Enchantress when GA wasn't up and spinning worked so damn well against Ravage after pudge hooked tide into us...

 

[Monochromaticx]

Secret always seem so shaky when a series starts

Im sure they will 3 - 1 or 3 - 2 VP again though

I am honestly not sure about. VP playing much better than yesterday.

 

[Haly]

reminder the only reason to pick up battlefury is because omnislash cleaves too

There are a few "bonus" auto attacks during the animation of Omnislash depending on your attack speed but, Omnislash itself doesn't cleave at all.

If you are able to reduce your attack time under 0.4 seconds per attack, you can do a basic attack per Omnislash icon.png Omnislash jump.

 

[J2d]

reminder the only reason to pick up battlefury is because omnislash cleaves too

It helps with the mana problems so I still go bf most jugg games.

 

[Ember Spirit]

bzz is so so so bad

 

[Acinixys]

I am honestly not sure about. VP playing much better than yesterday.

Yeah maybe

That Kuro TB though...

 

[Monochromaticx]

Yeah maybe

That Kuro TB though...

Yeah...god damn. And the distruptor plays from notail were just perfect.

 

[Ember Spirit]

If Artanisix still refuses to post concrete details for IHL2 including rules and a starting date (and it must begin in January, obviously it's the holiday season now) by 11:59:59 PM Central Standard Time, Sunday, December 21st 2014 AD his GAF account will bear the consequences of this transgression.

what happened

I never got round to sending him a pm

 

[Cyborgmatt]

Sharky was a super nice guy in person. They are not sure what happened, he passed away in his sleep. Still had years ahead of him.

 

[Monochromaticx]

Secret always seem so shaky when a series starts

Im sure they will 3 - 1 or 3 - 2 VP again though

You were right man. VP crumbling and secret are messing with them now.

 

[Kade]

RIP Sharky

 

[G-Unit]

damni feel for vp, fuckin naga bs

 

[Razzer]

RIP Sharky. Never good to see someone go so young.

 

[Pratfall]

i know its already been said but new cm ult is fukkin legit. I think going 2-1-2-1 at level 6 so you have mana for ult is the best build for her. You can sit so far away from fights and still destroy people.

 

[Haly]

- Get chased by 4 guys
- Press R on crystal maiden
- Watch them scramble over themselves to gtfo

 

[Cyborgmatt]

Well that was a close call, almost just got booted out of Starladder lol.

 

[NormalFish]

Holy shit secret lol....

 

[Glass Shark]

As a relatively casual spectator, allow me to throw in with the "there are too many tournaments" crowd. Maybe it's normal, but a team playing big games in multiple tourneys in the same day seems crazy to me.

 

[KingKong]

As a relatively casual spectator, allow me to throw in with the "there are too many tournaments" crowd. Maybe it's normal, but a team playing big games in multiple tourneys in the same day seems crazy to me.

maybe because its online but you can tell theres too many tournaments when no one seems to really care about the semis and finals that happened over the last week