eh its not like anime is shit, just the kind EE watches is.
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DOTA 2 |OT8| DOTA Asian Championship (1/27-2/9)
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eh its not like anime is shit, just the kind EE watches is.
shira
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A Sentient Keyboard
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I've heard several people say the ward spot directly above the rosh pit is fantastic, but I can't figure out why. It gives vision of dire ancients and the trees left of dire's T1 bottom tower, but that's it. If you wanna place a ward to keep track of traffic in that area, wouldn't you rather place it so that it monitors dire's secret shop or the rosh pit entrance?
Why is that ward spot good and for who (radiant or dire, earlygame or lategame)?
Why is that ward spot good and for who (radiant or dire, earlygame or lategame)?
shira
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The cliff is a lot higher than most cliffs in dota hence it gives increased vision.
Also it is incredibly hard to deward since you can't blink up there. So if you have melee supports you would need a sentry/gem AND quelling blade AND use a courier or flying vision OR waste an observer ward
Also it is incredibly hard to deward since you can't blink up there. So if you have melee supports you would need a sentry/gem AND quelling blade AND use a courier or flying vision OR waste an observer ward
Monochromaticx
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As shira said. Also It can placed easily from dire side and in the pit (rosh is nice enough to let walk to the spot without hitting you).from radiant you can solo smoke into the pit and drop the ward easily.
Ppy and pdd talked about that spot earlier in that same match and even pointed out that c9 should deward it several times.
Ppy and pdd talked about that spot earlier in that same match and even pointed out that c9 should deward it several times.
A Sentient Keyboard
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Oh, I didn't know you couldn't blink up there, that's weird. Thanks you two.
shira
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Greetings
I went camping on Friday morning and got back today so I missed all the good games in The Summit
Can anyone recommend the best games I might have missed?
Ive been told C9 vs EG semi-final game 5, VG vs Secret semi-final game 1, and the whole of the grand final
Any others that are worth downloading?
I went camping on Friday morning and got back today so I missed all the good games in The Summit
Can anyone recommend the best games I might have missed?
Ive been told C9 vs EG semi-final game 5, VG vs Secret semi-final game 1, and the whole of the grand final
Any others that are worth downloading?
Vade
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American football analogy Buffalo Bills went to 4 straight super bowls and lost all 4. No one gives a shit about that. "Well they made it to 4 straight that is something, lost but w/e"
Monochromaticx
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Well, the eastern xboct, lu0, is still on the team. aint easy to carry that.
I would add VG vs Secret game 2 to the list. Also the all star match was amazing.
manfestival
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I like how so many people(pretending to be more knowledgeable than the pros) are trying to call out c9 for being dumb and sticking together when they got caught by void and tide but I think everyone is being blind to the fact that they were together just to smoke gank
They were going to use a smoke under a ward, that's why Tide caught them.
Marauder Shields
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I'm assuming the argument is that it was a questionable place to group up given the aforementioned dire high cliff ward that C9 hadn't dewarded.
What I find really unlucky is that Envy sends out an illusion in the direction that Void and Tide were, but Mirana had just popped Moonlight Shadow and thus Envy's illusion JUST missed scouting them.
Pureauthor
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In an area that is almost guaranteed to be covered by ward vision unless you've been judicious in dewarding all game (which C9 most certainly were not).
shira
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http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1077285418/vision
ya they were
bone7 1-15 idc what they were doing the game was already lost
Wok
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Apparently, a Treant Protector with Aghanim and Refresher can get 646 GPM in a long game.
www.dotabuff.com/matches/1077880528
www.dotabuff.com/matches/1077880528
User 85168
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Ward up every camp and keep ulting
manfestival
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What is this from?
I feel C9 getting second makes them more likable. A team that almost always wins is a bit boring to watch after a few months.
Purple Cheeto
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They're like pre bloody sock Boston Red Sox. Once they win it all they turn into evil Empire Red Sox.
Lich's build doesn't look that bad TBH. Veno probably cost them the game with no blink/force/ect to get in position to ult.
But they never stood a chance going up against Grack.
shira
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my HS senior year
Gentle Rodriguez
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How is that even remotely playable
You know, I kind of want to see a mouse only tournament kind of like that Reverse CM tournament they had a while back.
I'm sure it works at the .5k MMR level.
Gonna sell it or open it and pray for a Doomling?
Heavy's Sandvich
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I agree with you.
just an inconsistency with others that talked about placing in tournaments and referring to prize money as in indication of tier.
I remember making comments about Fnatic before TI, people would post placements and the amount of money they've made and yet now that's not good enough for a more consistent team.
manfestival
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I feel like C9 would be likeable without EE. Granted he is the reigning personality. He just seems to do the loda thing and farm to kingdom come while fata and the others make the real plays.
Might gamble here.
NormalFish
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Except Loda doesn't make the same completely mental decisions. He's a pretty consistent all-around carry, where as EE feels like "that soloqueue carry player" where sometimes he carries and gets triple rampages, and sometimes he's a complete liability.
Dreams-Visions
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Agreed. In terms of in-game decision making and play-making, EE sits somewhere between Loda and Xboct.
Envy blink-striking FY's rubick in the middle of the entire VG team, then TPing away while repelled just about sums him up as a player.
Everything in there is good even if you didn't get a Doomling. The I sold my Gravelmaw for ~$350 Steam money. Well worth it as I don't have to spend real money on Steam games/hats.
NormalFish
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Yup. And I think his drafting is questionable as well. C9 occasionally gets a really solid draft... and then EE decides to play a carry that doesn't synergize and gets stomped. Honestly if they had Loda or Pajkatt or some other carry player who doesn't throw games like EE does (and can play a variety of carries) they'd be pretty amazing. PLD could use some more guidance as well, but his impact (negative or positive) is rarely as high.
I think you need to judge PLD's impact on the game relative to the amount of farm he is given. He consistently supports 4 cores on his team. Anyone who's ever done the same in solo queue knows that not feeding uncontrollably is an accomplishment in itself
Well there has to be something that sells for less than $180. The $180 should be more than all the regular items with the Doomling being the item worth the most but being the most rare.
NormalFish
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Yeah, I certainly agree, but I don't think it's a stretch to say that his mid and lategame decision making can be very questionable. In lane he's pretty decent, if unremarkable. In lategame though, some of his plays are worrisome.
Yeah PLD often gets accused of feeding, but he's always doing it while accomplishing some goal, whether to make space, or by warding. C9 is a very farm efficienty focused team where four players are constantly busy trying to get as much gold as possible, leaving PLD to hold things together with the 0 gold he ends up with.
Dreams-Visions
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yea that's true. still, he's known if not outright infamous for taking more deaths than necessary.
More value in selling it to be honest. It's what 1:50 chance? That or you get a definate £100 in steam credit.
I'd take the £100 stream credit.
NormalFish
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Part of the reason PLD ends up with so little gold is that everytime he has some, he dies. Something of a vicious cycle of playing 6 role support.
Monochromaticx
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Holy shit just had the biggest comeback. down 25000 xp,10000 gold 4 racks down by 25 minutes
huskar made the right calls for smoke ganking 3 times in a row (after he typed gg ffs 2 minutes earlier >_>)
Held for almost 60 mintes winning like 50 million fights in row.
huskar made the right calls for smoke ganking 3 times in a row (after he typed gg ffs 2 minutes earlier >_>)
Held for almost 60 mintes winning like 50 million fights in row.
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