Eminem - Tobey feat. Big Sean & BabyTron. New album July 12
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RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
cash_longfellow
Member
I have an hour drive to the work and will be listening to it this morning…as a huge early Em fan, and not so much with his last 8+ albums, this is the first time in a long time I’m looking forward to his album.
Long time Eminem fan. This album is fanservice to early adopters of his style. I love the fact that the album tells a story where Eminem battles this alter ego and while his early self made headlines for lyrical content, his older self realizes the maturity and he morphs to a real lyricist. It's paying homage to his craft and his career.
9/10.
Also, the Save Me intro hits hard and if you have ever known anybody that suffers/ed from addiction, ... you can really feel that intro.
9/10.
Also, the Save Me intro hits hard and if you have ever known anybody that suffers/ed from addiction, ... you can really feel that intro.
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SF Kosmo
Banned
Oh man this album is awful, like actually shits on his legacy in a really meta way, by reducing the Slim Shady character to some shallow immature attention-seeker with nothing real to say.
It's like yelling "retard doodie midget" and bitching about "kids today" while literal "PC Cops" chase him around. Like it's obsessed with this idea of being cancelled or muzzled that makes no sense because he's Eminem and he can say whatever the fuck he wants obviously he just has nothing to say except about what he thinks he can't say.
To call it corny would be really underselling it, it's like the rap equivalent of those fake stock photo Netflix specials.
And probably the worst thing is that is really isn't funny, like you can't do shock humor if it isn't shocking and Em doesn't seem to really know how to do anything but recycle the same sort of blood and gore and celebrity references that he was doing in 2002. There's like literally more than 10 Caitlyn Jenner lines. Going after the tough targets as ever, eh Marshall?
He sounds as crisp as ever, musically it's pretty good if a bit retro, but I'm really struggling with how cringe and corny he has made Shady. Maybe that's the point, to say this shit is played out? If so then point taken.
It's like yelling "retard doodie midget" and bitching about "kids today" while literal "PC Cops" chase him around. Like it's obsessed with this idea of being cancelled or muzzled that makes no sense because he's Eminem and he can say whatever the fuck he wants obviously he just has nothing to say except about what he thinks he can't say.
To call it corny would be really underselling it, it's like the rap equivalent of those fake stock photo Netflix specials.
And probably the worst thing is that is really isn't funny, like you can't do shock humor if it isn't shocking and Em doesn't seem to really know how to do anything but recycle the same sort of blood and gore and celebrity references that he was doing in 2002. There's like literally more than 10 Caitlyn Jenner lines. Going after the tough targets as ever, eh Marshall?
He sounds as crisp as ever, musically it's pretty good if a bit retro, but I'm really struggling with how cringe and corny he has made Shady. Maybe that's the point, to say this shit is played out? If so then point taken.
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Party McHardy
Banned
The highest selling hip hop artist of all time is a horrorcore rapper from Detroit.
50+ and still no one can touch him lyrically
Best album since Relapse.
No.1 in every western country
Covered Jellyroll++++++
50+ and still no one can touch him lyrically
Best album since Relapse.
No.1 in every western country
Covered Jellyroll++++++
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SF Kosmo
Banned
No but he's mentioned in at least two.
belmarduk
Member
I actually really liked Love Game... although it doesn't seem like something Kendrick would do nowadays.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I actually think the album is weak towards the end as it goes into the "more mature Em"
And it sounds like Em thinks he is too mature for the Slim Shady stuff and it needs to die.
Thing is Slim is better regardless if he is rapping about Midgets or Christopher Reeves.
If this is his last Album then cool, but he can't come back after this with what he been producing the last ten years, it took weak.
The Idea that the Houdini video put with combining the two Egos was the way to go, sadly Em didn't do that.
Its definitely his best work in the last decade.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
In 200 years we'll be treating Marshall Mathers like Bach.
RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
Is Eminem the new Drip King, or is he just getting rizzed up by Suge Knight?
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
I always disliked Eminem... He is still an unpleasant person, critical of people, but hypocritical at the same time... His time has passed, no one even remembers him anymore
Kacho
Member
DEM LEAKS
Old Em still does it for me. Makes me want to put it on the stereo, roll a blunt and play Gran Turismo 3.
His new stuff can stay in the trash can.
HRK69
Member
Now that the album has been out for a while, where would you guys rank it?
I like the album overall, but there are so many moments where it feels like he's trying too hard. Like he’s trying to prove how good he is rather than just making something that sounds great.
Stuff like this from Fuel:
Got the most content on the continent
And constant compliments give me confidence (I'm a)
To cross of common sense and incompetence (Uh)
I'm cognizant that conflict's a consequence (What?)
Of accomplishments and comp is no competish
I've conquered and conked 'em into unconsciousness
No conscience, I conjure this King Kong or just
Call me "Kamikaze," I'm concoctin' this (Woo, my bad)
This kills it a bit for me. It’s technically impressive, but it feels so overstuffed with internal rhymes and wordplay that it comes off as more of a flex than something that actually serves the song. This album has many moments like this and that takes me out of the experience.
Tracks that made my favorites playlist on Spotify: Evil, Tobey, Fuel, Fuel (Shady Edition) and Kyrie & Luka
Here’s my album ranking:
I like the album overall, but there are so many moments where it feels like he's trying too hard. Like he’s trying to prove how good he is rather than just making something that sounds great.
Stuff like this from Fuel:
Got the most content on the continent
And constant compliments give me confidence (I'm a)
To cross of common sense and incompetence (Uh)
I'm cognizant that conflict's a consequence (What?)
Of accomplishments and comp is no competish
I've conquered and conked 'em into unconsciousness
No conscience, I conjure this King Kong or just
Call me "Kamikaze," I'm concoctin' this (Woo, my bad)
This kills it a bit for me. It’s technically impressive, but it feels so overstuffed with internal rhymes and wordplay that it comes off as more of a flex than something that actually serves the song. This album has many moments like this and that takes me out of the experience.
Tracks that made my favorites playlist on Spotify: Evil, Tobey, Fuel, Fuel (Shady Edition) and Kyrie & Luka
Here’s my album ranking:
The Eminem Show
Marshall Mathers LP
The Slim Shady LP
Kamikaze
Relapse
Music to Be Murdered By
The Death of Slim Shady
The Marshall Mathers LP 2
Revival
Infinite
Marshall Mathers LP
The Slim Shady LP
Kamikaze
Relapse
Music to Be Murdered By
The Death of Slim Shady
The Marshall Mathers LP 2
Revival
Infinite
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Each Eminem album is its own thing, saying one is better than the other is a crime.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Saying that, The Marshall Mathers LP is the best and anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.
March Climber
Member
I think only 3 songs really stuck with me and I agree with your criticism of him trying to sound good rather than simply be good. That has been the feeling of his past few albums honestly.
I was hoping NF would carry Eminem's torch after hearing songs like this from his Search album a few years ago:
At the time he felt like a young Eminem to me, with that same hunger behind his music with obvious room to grow. He still kind of does, but instead his albums since then have been torn between singing and rapping tracks, almost like Eminem's Recovery album. It's a shame as they make his work feel disjointed.
HRK69
Member
NF Is solid! The production is strong, the lyrics hold up, and his music videos often (do) feel like mini movies
The Search is certainly a stand out and stays in my rotation. I haven't gone through a full project of his yet, but if I'm being honest, his music sometimes gives off a high quality TikTok vibe. Catchy, cinematic, but maybe not always something I'd sit with for a full album run
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