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[Tenguman]

GASP! A good episode of Enterprise maybe?

8pm EST, 7pm Central


Also, anyone wanna shed some light as to whats been going on behind the scenes?

 

[ManaByte]

This is a start of a three-part story arc focusing on Dr. Arik Soong (Data's great grandfather) who becomes involved with the genetically engineered soldiers from the Eugenics Wars (Khan's people). It also brings back the ORION SLAVE GIRLS!!!

 

[BigJonsson]

Just saw the episode....

Absolutely awesome, make sure you all watch it!

 

[explodet]

Watching it now.

The guy who played General Martok, and the Big Show?
Neat.

 

[Tenguman]

Watching it now.

The guy who played General Martok, and the Big Show?
Neat.

Yup, and if you notice, one of the super-humans was played by the Actor who played Paul Atreides in Sci-Fi's version of 'Dune'

 

[Mega Man's Electric Sheep]

Big Show was a guest star!

Brent Spiner was hilarious. I love when he said to Trip "the Orions have a similar history with slavery as your own ancestors, judging from your accent."

And to Archer at the end: "I suggest you go home captain, and start learning Klingon."

And to Reed: "I know your name, but I don't know your face. You need more publicity." (And he frigging well does! He is one of the better characters when they actually use him)

Overall: very very good. Much better than what we're used to with this show.

 

[Tenguman]

I like the beginning so far. Very little mention of last season's events. It's like the last 3 years never happened.

 

[Mega Man's Electric Sheep]

I like the beginning so far. Very little mention of last season's events. It's like the last 3 years never happened.

They talked about last season last week, and also remember at the beginning when Archer met Soong at the prison he said "why are you here? Are they naming the prison after you, hero?"

But I do get the sense they are trying to get a fresh start (bye bye, temporal cold war!)

 

[ShadowRed]

God damn son of a bitch this show is actually getting good. I can't believe it I must be lossing my mind. I'm actually enjoying Enterprise. This show could quiet possibly come alive in the way that The Next generation got good the 3rd year.

 

[ManaByte]

Did the episode have a new opening credits sequence?

God damn son of a bitch this show is actually getting good. I can't believe it I must be lossing my mind. I'm actually enjoying Enterprise. This show could quiet possibly come alive in the way that The Next generation got good the 3rd year.

More like how DS9 came alive in the 4th year. This is the 4th year of Enterprise

 

[BigJonsson]

Did the episode have a new opening credits sequence?



Negatory

 

[ShadowRed]

Did the episode have a new opening credits sequence?



More like how DS9 came alive in the 4th year. This is the 4th year of Enterprise

Well I never liked DS9 and contray to popular opinion thought it got worse with the Dominion War crap.

 

[Mega Man's Electric Sheep]

And I thought DS9 was good right from the very first episode. My favourite DS9 ever was in the first season (Duet).
DS9 had growing pains in season 3 where it seemed to be going in several directions at once, but seasons 4 and 5 managed to focus the show and work on plot threads that the earlier seasons had.

 

[BigJonsson]

Bird's of Prey are badass

 

[Mashing]

Fantastic episode...

Btw, wasn't section 31 created around this time? I would love to have an episode with them... one of the best things to come out of DS9.

I really liked how the genetically engineered humans resembled Kahn so much in demeaner and appearence... great continunity.

 

[LakeEarth]

Fun episode. Not exactly extremely entertaining yet, but it's finally showing signs of getting interesting. Love the T'Pol/Trip side-story, I hope they don't mess it up too bad.

 

[Phoenix]

The show is finally becoming what it always should have been, though the Enterprise is apparently easily disabled. They need to steal energy shields from someone - soon!

 

[Catalyst]

...

I thought it came on 9pm EST. It wasn't on. When's the re-run?

 

[Vgamer]

I loved it as well. Brent Spiner was awesome!

 

[retardboy]

This is a start of a three-part story arc focusing on Dr. Arik Soong (Data's great grandfather) who becomes involved with the genetically engineered soldiers from the Eugenics Wars (Khan's people). It also brings back the ORION SLAVE GIRLS!!!

Am I the only one that thinks that she looks like Xtina

 

[BigJonsson]

Once they get shields they will truly be badass

 

[Kumiko Nikaido]

Borderland was a nice episode. It was great to see the Enterprise NX-01 all patched up without holes anymore...

I found it both funny and weak when:

Spoiler

Arik Soong tried to escape by climbing over that wall.....only to have Archer catch up with him and disengage his cuffs....causing Soong to land flat on his back.

 

[Saturnman]

The show is finally becoming what it always should have been

You're jumping to conclusions. Trek tradition suggests even if you have a good first episode, you are more than likely to mess it up by the next one.

Like Voyager, Enterprise has had its fair share of ups and downs. It really has to do more than just deliver an episode that delivers a lot of fan service.

 

[ManaByte]

You're jumping to conclusions. Trek tradition suggests even if you have a good first episode, you are more than likely to mess it up by the next one.

Like Voyager, Enterprise has had its fair share of ups and downs. It really has to do more than just deliver an episode that delivers a lot of fan service.

The episode before this one was really good as well and had no fan service.

 

[Phoenix]

You're jumping to conclusions. Trek tradition suggests even if you have a good first episode, you are more than likely to mess it up by the next one.

Like Voyager, Enterprise has had its fair share of ups and downs. It really has to do more than just deliver an episode that delivers a lot of fan service.

Has nothing to do with fan service. Enterprise is about the happenings during the birth of the Federation, there was VERY LITTLE of that before this season. This season is headed in the right direction. Even if they have a whole lot of shit episodes about the birth of the federation, the show will be headed in right direction. The whole temporal cold war was a step in the wrong direction from the very beginning - no question about that.

 

[maharg]

Once they get shields they will truly be badass

They'll get shields.

Everyone else will suddenly have shields.

So nothing will change.

(not to mention, shields never stopped any of the other Trek ships from getting pounded all to hell in 5 minutes by vastly underpowered enemies. Need I mention Voyager, supposedly a warship, being virtually obliterated routinely by aliens who were amazed by replicators and transporters?)

 

[BigJonsson]

They'll get shields.

Everyone else will suddenly have shields.

So nothing will change.

(not to mention, shields never stopped any of the other Trek ships from getting pounded all to hell in 5 minutes by vastly underpowered enemies. Need I mention Voyager, supposedly a warship, being virtually obliterated routinely by aliens who were amazed by replicators and transporters?)

But when they get shields that should protect the crew from getting beamed out all the time

 

[COCKLES]

Enjoyable episode. As with Spiner's turns as Lore in TNG, he makes a far,far better villian then a good guy. The Eugenics were pretty badarse, taking out the Klingon crew. And Big Show was fucking hilarious.

 

[DarienA]

Enjoyable episode. As with Spiner's turns as Lore in TNG, he makes a far,far better villian then a good guy. The Eugenics were pretty badarse, taking out the Klingon crew. And Big Show was fucking hilarious.

Oh that was the Big Show as the Orion guard? I was wondering why that voice sounded so f'n familiar.. LOL

Anyway I agree with your comments a great episode, and Spiner's voice when he speaks down a level and false "smile/smirk" really make him a much better villian.

 

[COCKLES]

Hope they get Big Show returning in the future....perhaps coming after the Enterprise for his disgrace in allowing the prisoners to escape, he looked like he was having the time of his life. :lol

 

[Escape Goat]

I had to watch this with my bf otherwise I wouldn't be posting in this thread but how comes Enterprise waits until its halfway disabled before they return fire?

Hail them...oh shit our torpedos and phasers are offline...signal our surender!

 

[LakeEarth]

They'll get shields.

Everyone else will suddenly have shields.

So nothing will change.

(not to mention, shields never stopped any of the other Trek ships from getting pounded all to hell in 5 minutes by vastly underpowered enemies. Need I mention Voyager, supposedly a warship, being virtually obliterated routinely by aliens who were amazed by replicators and transporters?)

I don't think Voyager was a warship. I thought it was a small ship designed for short missions that required manuverability. Maybe I'm forgetting the first episode though. I'm sure it wasn't a warship, cause I remember in the beginning of the show they mentioned they only had like 40 torpedoes.

 

[maharg]

But when they get shields that should protect the crew from getting beamed out all the time

Heh, until the aliens figure out the phase variance of the shields! Or if they meet aliens sufficiently further advanced, as the Enterprise D did quite often.

You're right though, it would limit the impact of that little plot twist.

 

[Escape Goat]

I don't think Voyager was a warship. I thought it was a small ship designed for short missions that required manuverability. Maybe I'm forgetting the first episode though. I'm sure it wasn't a warship, cause I remember in the beginning of the show they mentioned they only had like 40 torpedoes.

Voyager was classified as a Scout ship.

 

[ManaByte]

I don't think Voyager was a warship. I thought it was a small ship designed for short missions that required manuverability. Maybe I'm forgetting the first episode though. I'm sure it wasn't a warship, cause I remember in the beginning of the show they mentioned they only had like 40 torpedoes.

Voyager was not a warship. However, the Enterprise-E is a warship.

 

[maharg]

I didn't really mean to say it was intended to carry a war on it's own, but its role, it seems to me, was far more in the war territory than the Enterprise D was. It was maneuverable and presumably had fairly strong shields. Both would be attributes of a scout ship used during war. It was designed to fill a role in the military, not a role in exploration.

More like a corvette than a destroyer.

 

[MoxManiac]

The fuck? Why hasn't this been cancelled yet?

 

[maharg]

The fuck? Why hasn't this been cancelled yet?

Because you don't hate it enough yet. Keep trying.

 

[Shouta]

Pretty good episode. I'll definitely check out next week's episode because this might be the turning point for the series.

 

[Mengy]

Wow, I just now watched it. This is the first episode in over a year that makes me even remotely optimistic for this show's future. I can't believe we actually saw Klingons! Hopefully this ep wasn't a fluke and the show gets into the groove it should have been in all along.

I also liked the casting for the leader of the enhanced humans, that was Drogan the Battlebrand from Angel.

 

[bahndotcom]

Wow -- watched it on the 29 and caught the repeat ep today as well. Overall, it was a good episode; can't wait for the next part! I was happy to see Brent Spiner back in the Trek scene again. This is the first time in a long time that I've actually enjoyed watching Enterprise. In fact, this could be the start of a new direction that will motivate fans to keep tuning in. If we're lucky, maybe they'll pick up some of the Babylon 5 and ST: TNG writers. This show needs new blood!!!

 

[Phoenix]

Voyager is officially a ship of exploration:

Specifications

Production facilities:
Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards, Mars
Earth Station McKinley, Earth
Type: Explorer
Dimensions:
Height: 55.4 m
Length: 344.5 m
Beam: 144.8 m
Decks: 15
Displacement: 700,000 metric tons
Accommodation: 141-150 standard; 3,000 limit
Propulsion:
One Class-9 matter/antimatter intermix chamber reactor powering two nineteen-coil variable-geometry warp engines
Two impulse engines
Performance: Warp 9 cruise; warp 9.975 for twelve hours
Weaponry:
13 type-eight phaser arrays
4 photon torpedo launchers
Defenses: Deflector shields
Auxiliary vessels:
Various shuttlecraft and/or other vessels in two shuttlebays in the engineering hull; they include two Type 8 and two Type 9 personnel shuttlecraft as well as two Type 15 shuttlepods
1 Aeroshuttle, embedded in the ventral saucer

 

[LakeEarth]

I also liked the casting for the leader of the enhanced humans, that was Drogan the Battlebrand from Angel.

Just wait for the scene when they capture the captain!
Archer - "Where are you taking me!"
Leader - "No questions!"
Archer - "What's your favourite color? What's your favourite song? Who's the goalkeeper for Manchester United and how many fingers am I holding up!?"

 

[ManaByte]

Wow -- watched it on the 29 and caught the repeat ep today as well. Overall, it was a good episode; can't wait for the next part! I was happy to see Brent Spiner back in the Trek scene again. This is the first time in a long time that I've actually enjoyed watching Enterprise. In fact, this could be the start of a new direction that will motivate fans to keep tuning in. If we're lucky, maybe they'll pick up some of the Babylon 5 and ST: TNG writers. This show needs new blood!!!

A lot of the B5 writers (especially JMS) are working on an officially "unannounced" major Sci-Fi series that will start in 2006/2007.

 

[Shouta]

Oh yeah, Voyager is an explorer type ship (Intrepid Class). I forgot to mention that. They get whupped on because they're not exactly a warship by any means. They do a lot modifying to the ship as they traveled back towards Earth as I recall though which is why they're able to survive fights longer as the series go on.

 

[BigJonsson]

The Defiant, now that was a bad-ass ship

 

[DarienA]

The Defiant, now that was a bad-ass ship

I really like the future Enterprise from All Good Things...

 

[BigJonsson]

I really like the future Enterprise from All Good Things...

Haha, that thing was insane
Just shot right throught the Birds of Prey with one shot

 

[Phoenix]

The Defiant, now that was a bad-ass ship

Its really a ship whose purpose is to escort the REAL bad-asses of the Federation.

Production facility: Antares Fleet Yards, Antares IV
Type: Escort
Dimensions:
Height: 30.10 m (four decks)
Length: 170.68 m
Beam: 134.11 m
Displacement: 355,000 metric tons
Accommodation: 40 standard; 150 limit
Propulsion:
One matter/antimatter reactor powering two four-coil warp engines
Two nuclear fusion impulse engines
Performance: Warp 9.5 cruise; warp 9.982 for twelve hours
Weaponry:
Four pulse phaser cannon (PPCs)
Three torpedo launchers (capable of both quantum and photon torpedo fire)
Three type-ten phaser emitters
One detachable hull section containing an M/A explosive
Defenses:
Deflector shields
Ablative armor
Auxiliary vessels:
One type-ten shuttlecraft
Zero to four shuttlepods
26 six-person lifeboats

 

[BigJonsson]

The funniest things about all good things is that they travel at warp 13 in the future lol