EVO 2012 Thread 2 Because one thread wasnt enough to hold all the hype and the salt

Well just because the most people want to play it doesn't mean the most people want to watch it. And if your viewers peak during the event before your "main event", you might want to reconsider what the real main event is.

It was more to do with how mismanaged the final day was, being 2 and a half hours late and having a lot of breaks/stream restarts with a splash screen that offered no information on what's next or is it over.

AE also had higher numbers during Friday than Marvel during Saturday.
 
It was more to do with how mismanaged the final day was, being 2 and a half hours late and having a lot of breaks/stream restarts with a splash screen that offered no information on what's next or is it over.

AE also had higher numbers during Friday than Marvel during Saturday.

From what I recall, the drop off was significant enough that it could not solely be the result of the time, although I'm sure it had some effect. Both Marvel 3 and even KoF Grand Finals had a viewership of around 85k-100k throughout, there were points in AE where it was around 65k.
 
KOF was hype because someone beat Bala, I'm pretty sure nobody would have cared about KOF is Bala won it free (there was zero hype during the CafeID players matches). So thanks to MadKOF.

Just because this year AE finals weren't as hype as last year it doesn't mean it isn't as hype as the other games. Just look at Shadowloo Showdon, incredible Top 8 all around. They'll bring back the hype next year, but they need to work on the schedule, can't run your main event 4 hours late. I remember Skisonic asking to tweet SFIV finals, but who do I tweet it to when everybody probably went to sleep?

Obviously hype is all that matters.

Obviously.
You know, Beef. You might be right...
 
after every evo i want to get good enough at a fighter just to even feel like i "belong" in pools and go to hang out and enjoy it. i wouldn't even care if i lost 3-0 first match.


I think people are trying to hard to make excuses. Yeah, the schedule was definitely off and it had an impact on SFIV's numbers, but this is fucking EVO. People don't just bounce. They sit there and wait if they have to because this is the tournament of the year. Lots of other locals and majors run late into the night(like WNF for example) and they'd have tons of East coast people watching late into the night.

SFIV is getting old and Capcom knows it. They definitely pushed SFxT so hard because they know they need a fresh SF game to take it's place. There is nothing wrong with that, it's not a knock against SFIV.

Seriously, it's not SFIV's fault. Repeating so people stop and realize that this is not an attack.
it was definitely a problem when AE's semis were more hype than finals. lackluster showings from poongko and daigo (who if an american couldn't win i would've liked to see him beastmode all over the field) didn't help either. combined with a severely delayed start time and potentially very tired combatants, it was just a bad scene.

but yeah, i think people are tired of SFIV.
 
It was more to do with how mismanaged the final day was, being 2 and a half hours late and having a lot of breaks/stream restarts with a splash screen that offered no information on what's next or is it over.

AE also had higher numbers during Friday than Marvel during Saturday.
I think people are trying to hard to make excuses. Yeah, the schedule was definitely off and it had an impact on SFIV's numbers, but this is fucking EVO. People don't just bounce. They sit there and wait if they have to because this is the tournament of the year. Lots of other locals and majors run late into the night(like WNF for example) and they'd have tons of East coast people watching late into the night.

SFIV is getting old and Capcom knows it. They definitely pushed SFxT so hard because they know they need a fresh SF game to take it's place. There is nothing wrong with that, it's not a knock against SFIV.

Seriously, it's not SFIV's fault. Repeating so people stop and realize that this is not an attack.
 
I think people are trying to hard to make excuses. Yeah, the schedule was definitely off and it had an impact on SFIV's numbers, but this is fucking EVO. People don't just bounce. They sit there and wait if they have to because this is the tournament of the year. Lots of other locals and majors run late into the night(like WNF for example) and they'd have tons of East coast people watching late into the night.

SFIV is getting old and Capcom knows it. They definitely pushed SFxT so hard because they know they need a fresh SF game to take it's place. There is nothing wrong with that, it's not a knock against SFIV.

Seriously, it's not SFIV's fault. Repeating so people stop and realize that this is not an attack.

Relax dude, I didn't take it as an attack and I could give fuck all who get to play last since it on so late for me anyway.

Their schedule was mismanaged and as I said, AE pools and semis had higher numbers, so I think if everything was smoother on Sunday, they could've broke the 100k mark, but I could be wrong, no bigge.
 
I don't think people are making excuses solar, just giving possible reasons for things.

I think sf4 is fine as the main event. If marvel gets more entrants than sf, then switch them.
 
If I give the Cannons enough money, will they not include ASW games?

You seem to have a hatred for things ASW makes for no real reason. Specially when GG is one of the most balanced fighters made period. I'll never understand this. People who like GG and hate marvel or people that like marvel but hate GG make no sense to me.

Is the whole concept of spacing, FRCs, and preventing your guard gauge from maxing out that hard to grasp?
 
Relax dude, I didn't take it as an attack and I could give fuck all who get to play last since it on so late for me anyway.

Their schedule was mismanaged and as I said, AE pools and semis had higher numbers, so I think if everything was smoother on Sunday, they could've broke the 100k mark, but I could be wrong, no bigge.
I'm relaxed. Don't take expletives too seriously.

It's just that someone always freaks out at the mention of SFIV not being the main game or super awesome anymore. Then it just gets nasty.
If I give the Cannons enough money, will they not include ASW games?
You don't need to worry about that. ASW and Aksys are getting pretty good at making sure BB stays niche.
 
Bring back Third Strike while you're at it.

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ST
TTT2
VF
KoF
VS
MvC3
 
That's a reason to hate right there. Hokuto No Ken >>>>>

As far as I'm concerned they only made one series and that's GG

BB was good up til CS extend then it became a fucking boring mess

Their other games are not that great and seem like random hack jobs done real fast on the side

Persona looks good though and GGXXACR is looking great
 
You seem to have a hatred for things ASW makes for no real reason. Specially when GG is one of the most balanced fighters made period. I'll never understand this. People who like GG and hate marvel or people that like marvel but hate GG make no sense to me.

Is the whole concept of spacing, FRCs, and preventing your guard gauge from maxing out that hard to grasp?

I've never liked anything ASW has made, and that'll probably never change. It has nothing to do with balance, gauges, or anything like that. It's the presentation, art, music, and the fanbase as a whole that makes me sick to my stomach.

My statement was purposely ridiculous, but since you've gotten so bent out of shape about it, I'll try not to bring it up again so you won't have a conniption.
 
I've never liked anything ASW has made, and that'll probably never change. It has nothing to do with balance, gauges, or anything like that. It's the presentation, art, music, and the fanbase as a whole that makes me sick to my stomach.

My statement was purposely ridiculous, but since you've gotten so bent out of shape about it, I'll try not to bring it up again so you won't have a conniption.

Dustloop.com is pure poison. So with that I agree. Other things ehhh ok o.o/

ST
TTT2
VF
KoF
VS
MvC3

I'd take out Vampire Savior for GG as it's sorta the successor of it like it or not. *and sure as fuck more balanced not to say VS isn't fun as fuck cause it is* and Bam perfect list with a shit ton of different game types from a bunch of different companies.

This will never happen though because evo is a sponsored event -.-
 
Dustloop.com is pure poison. So with that I agree. Other things ehhh ok o.o/



I'd take out Vampire Savior for GG as it's sorta the successor of it like it or not. *and sure as fuck more balanced not to say VS isn't fun as fuck cause it is* and Bam perfect list with a shit ton of different game types from a bunch of different companies.

This will never happen though because evo is a sponsored event -.-

Whats wrong with dustloop? I've only gone there to take a glimpse of P4A and some BBCSEX (due to getting it on the vita).

This will never happen though because evo is a sponsored event -.-
I understand the sentiment, but I don't think that is the reason for it at least not the big reason.
 
Whats wrong with dustloop? I've only gone there to take a glimpse of P4A and some BBCSEX (due to getting it on the vita).

The community is pretty much the worst part of the FGC. It's very closed in. If you are not known no one gives a fuck what you have to say even if it's important or a game changer. It's pretty much 10 people circle jerking each other. On the flip side of things the info there is pretty good and there are a few great people there. But it's a far cry from what it was 6 years ago.
 
GG is not going to pick up many new players. It's a super-hard game , and newer players will like Persona more if they like Arc games. I can't see GG outdrawing VF, let alone Persona.

I think KOF is going to start losing steam next year hard. It just feels like the game is getting tapped out, and the pot monters are falling out- and it's the pot monsters that make games major. SNK needs to come up with a new game next year.
 
GG is not going to pick up many new players. It's a super-hard game , and newer players will like Persona more if they like Arc games. I can't see GG outdrawing VF, let alone Persona.

I think KOF is going to start losing steam next year hard. It just feels like the game is getting tapped out, and the pot monters are falling out- and it's the pot monsters that make games major.

GG is not a super hard game. If you can play marvel you can play GG -.-/
 
I think the locks for next year are:

Marvel
AE
P4A
Kof13
TT2

The 6th spot will probably go whichever stays more popular SC5 or MK9. DOA5 & Injustice are longshots IMO.
 
You seem to have a hatred for things ASW makes for no real reason. Specially when GG is one of the most balanced fighters made period. I'll never understand this. People who like GG and hate marvel or people that like marvel but hate GG make no sense to me.

Is the whole concept of spacing, FRCs, and preventing your guard gauge from maxing out that hard to grasp?

I don't see the correlation. While both games have a large amount of movement, chains and cancels, GG doesn't have assists. So it is possible to see GG as not crazy enough or Marvel as too crazy.
 
TRIFORCE GAMEMASTER will body you all in Tetris.

I saw him play it on stream that one day, shit was like Neo after he figured out the Matrix. I couldn't even see what was going on with parts flying so fast yet the blocks kept disappearing and disappearing and disappearing....
 
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