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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
Jerk 2.0 said:
Wow, you missed out on most of the game.

I know and that's awesome. I haven't done Come Fly With Me, I haven't been in The Black Mountain and haven't explored Deathclaw regions near Sloan and everything north of that.

But I was overwhelmed with awesomness, so I decided to end this. It felt like an adventure with the beginning and the end packed in a classic 3 act story arc.
 
SRG01 said:
I'm not sure if I follow with this, especially with FO2. There wasn't any evidence that the NCR and BoS were actually fighting each other...

I don't recall if there was anything in the vanilla version of F2, however the overhaul that was released - the one that adds a lot of the cut out content - hints that the BoS is starting to chafe against the NCR. Van Buren's plot was going to really flesh this out in greater detail.

SRG01 said:
unless it was expanded upon during Fallout: Tactics.

How dare you utter that name around here!

I like how the BoS in FNV makes you reconsider the BoS and Outcasts in F3. The Outcasts do seem a lot more like the 'real' BoS.
 
One thing i'm enjoying about New Vegas is that it doesn't take as long to get to the good interesting quests/locations. I remember playing F3 for about 40 hours before I stopped and it was nothing but boring ass walks through dozens of subway tunnels.
 
bonesmccoy said:
I don't recall if there was anything in the vanilla version of F2, however the overhaul that was released - the one that adds a lot of the cut out content - hints that the BoS is starting to chafe against the NCR. Van Buren's plot was going to really flesh this out in greater detail.



How dare you utter that name around here!

I like how the BoS in FNV makes you reconsider the BoS and Outcasts in F3. The Outcasts do seem a lot more like the 'real' BoS.

Fallout 3 BoS were archetypical white knight pussies. Tactics with it's eastern Brotherhood commiting crucifixions was more bad ass than lyons and his bimbo daughter.
 

tokkun

Member
junker said:
I got a crash in the menu screen while trying to repair some armor. I rebooted it and tried again and the same thing happened.

Another time the screen just faded to black and kicked me out to the XMB.

This is bullshit. Really gotta invest in a PC as well.

If you think that switching to the PC version will mean no crashes, then you are in for an unpleasant surprise.
 

DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
Arcade Gannon's
endings seem rather cold for the most part.
The NCR and BoS would really hunt him down for being the child of an Enclave member? From his dialogues, it sounded like he would have not even been a teenager when the Enclave fell in the west. Really makes them sound like assholes.
 

ezekial45

Banned
Jerk 2.0 said:

Doubt it. One of the reasons why they put in
the point of no return end game was because there was way more information to keep track of than Fallout 3 (Factions, characters, etc). I doubt they'll try to do anything like Broken Steel. The DLC for sure be pre-end game content.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
Wallach said:
Haha, I dunno man Tactics is a step up from BoS but it ain't a step you're likely to trip over.
As a tactical game its fine. i enjoyed it a lot more than i thought i would. Had a lot of fun messing things up with my vehicle and squad of misfits :lol
 

Parts

Member
tokkun said:
If you think that switching to the PC version will mean no crashes, then you are in for an unpleasant surprise.
I haven'r crashed once and I've put over 40 hours into it, and that's with about 40 mods. Maybe I'm just lucky though :lol
 

tokkun

Member
Parts said:
I haven'r crashed once and I've put over 40 hours into it, and that's with about 40 mods. Maybe I'm just lucky though :lol

Experiences seem to vary a lot based on the responses in this thread. I didn't keep count, but I would estimate that the game crashed on me about 15-20 times during my 80 hour playthrough. The game autosaves pretty frequently, though, so it's not a dealbreaker or anything. Certainly much better than the original release of The Witcher.

I had to use the dev console a few times to respawn companions who vanished on their way back to the Lucky 38 and ran into scripting bugs in several quests that prevented me from finishing them. I also noticed that the game "misremembered" some of my decisions by the time it got to the end of the game. Still worth it, but I will probably put off a 2nd playthrough until a few more rounds of patches have come out.
 
SuperSonic1305 said:
One thing i'm enjoying about New Vegas is that it doesn't take as long to get to the good interesting quests/locations. I remember playing F3 for about 40 hours before I stopped and it was nothing but boring ass walks through dozens of subway tunnels.

Indeed. Vegas' map is obviously smaller, but it makes up for it with a denser world. There are just enough long-highway-walk sections to keep things balanced.
 

Jerk

Banned
ezekial45 said:
Doubt it. One of the reasons why they put in
the point of no return end game was because there was way more information to keep track of than Fallout 3 (Factions, characters, etc). I doubt they'll try to do anything like Broken Steel. The DLC for sure be pre-end game content.

Sure, but that does not stop them from allowing you to use your end-game status.
 

Gestahl

Member
DarthWoo said:
Arcade Gannon's
endings seem rather cold for the most part.
The NCR and BoS would really hunt him down for being the child of an Enclave member? From his dialogues, it sounded like he would have not even been a teenager when the Enclave fell in the west. Really makes them sound like assholes.

Your first meeting with the BoS involves them stripping you naked and attaching an explosive bomb collar to your neck, and the NCR generally gives no shit about the people of New Vegas and you gain Infamy when you tell Moore you secured an alliance with the Brotherhood. They are tremendous assholes. Hell, the Brotherhood in Fallout 1 sends you to the Glow, a festering pit of radiation half a month away where no man has returned from, as a prank because you were bugging their doorman
 

Jerk

Banned
Gestahl said:
Your first meeting with the BoS involves them stripping you naked and attaching an explosive bomb collar to your neck, and the NCR generally gives no shit about the people of New Vegas and you gain Infamy when you tell Moore you secured an alliance with the Brotherhood. They are tremendous assholes. Hell, the Brotherhood in Fallout 1 sends you to the Glow, a festering pit of radiation half a month away where no man has returned from, as a prank because you were bugging their doorman

Explosive collar?

I never ran into that. They have been nothing but nice to me.

Of course I waited until I had Veronica before I approached them at all, but still...
 
tokkun said:
If you think that switching to the PC version will mean no crashes, then you are in for an unpleasant surprise.

Yeah I am having a decent (almost crash free experience on the PC too) I've put in like 140 hours now and I had about 8 crashes all together and 5 out of that 8 crashes started to happen ironically after the patches :lol recently I also crammed the game with buncha mods, so...that could be it too.

Constantly hearing people's frustrations and complaints about this game on their consoles, I must say I hardly share their pain.

which kind of makes me think that the PC version is significantly superior in performance... granted you have a PC that's not older than 5 years with a decent Graphic card(mine's a 3.5 year old PC, quad core, 4 gigs RAM, nvidia Gforce 9600 GT ) Guess it's not half bad.
 

Gestahl

Member
I had to use the .dll fix to get a decent framerate out of the game but other than a handful of crashes (which caused barely any damage considering I quicksave every 5 minutes) I didn't have any trouble with the PC version. I did almost get completely fucked over when an entire family of blind deathclaw suddenly spawned after I quickloaded. Luckily I had an autosave at the nearby building so I parked both companions inside, and soloed the lot of them with a sniper rifle.
 
So far, I've got the fellout mod installed (it's a subtle different but it does make the game look better. Any other visual mods I should look into?
 
disappeared said:
Indeed. Vegas' map is obviously smaller, but it makes up for it with a denser world. There are just enough long-highway-walk sections to keep things balanced.

I thought this in my first playthrough, but my second has been full of 'oh, there's actually nothing here' moments. I'm sure the incoming DLC will open up large sections of the map... like that one part near Goodsprings filled with the anti-courier 6 graffiti.
 

Duki

Banned
Jerk 2.0 said:
Explosive collar?

I never ran into that. They have been nothing but nice to me.

Of course I waited until I had Veronica before I approached them at all, but still...
thats why they didnt
 

tokkun

Member
One thing that annoys me about the game is that the karma system seems somewhat capricious.

For example, Mr. House is a very pragmatic guy. However, if I go against him for pragmatic reasons, such as siding with the NCR, I get negative karma regardless of how I choose to take him out of the picture.

And you gain karma for killing feral ghouls but not for killing deathclaws? I also gain karma for sneaking up on Legionaries and killing them in their sleep, but lose karma if I then rob their footlocker.

I know that karma doesn't play that big a role in the game, but I always feel like I'm being judged when the "You Lost Karma" noise plays.
 
Gully State said:
So far, I've got the fellout mod installed (it's a subtle different but it does make the game look better. Any other visual mods I should look into?

WOW! it really did make things look better.

besides that I've got "centered 3rd person camera" installed, nothing else to recommend I'm afraid :/
 
Gully State said:
So far, I've got the fellout mod installed (it's a subtle different but it does make the game look better. Any other visual mods I should look into?

Thing about the fellout Mod, not sure about you guys but I really don't like the pitch dark nights it offers.. I like to see where I'm going in the dark, (Black Mountain for example, that place gets hella creepy at night, especially with this Mod) I like the day time sky and lighting in the fellout mod, but nights are unplayable for me.

What you guy's think?
 

Dead Man

Member
tokkun said:
One thing that annoys me about the game is that the karma system seems somewhat capricious.

For example, Mr. House is a very pragmatic guy. However, if I go against him for pragmatic reasons, such as siding with the NCR, I get negative karma regardless of how I choose to take him out of the picture.

And you gain karma for killing feral ghouls but not for killing deathclaws? I also gain karma for sneaking up on Legionaries and killing them in their sleep, but lose karma if I then rob their footlocker.

I know that karma doesn't play that big a role in the game, but I always feel like I'm being judged when the "You Lost Karma" noise plays.
There's a mod for that. In fact, there's two. Or more.
 
I did a full run with Fellout in F3... without a NV mod installed. The pitch black effects are a little excessive - especially considering we're playing a game that's set largely in the post-apoc wilderness of the Mojave. Nights are just not that dark.

I have a face/hair mod installed that *fixes* the character models so that each person doesn't have that awful Oblivion zombie look anymore.
 
Gully State said:
Does NVskies mod play nice with fellout?

I am 98% certain it does NOT, but I'm not 100% on it. Don't take my word for it but I would NOT recommend having both running.

I don't mean to derail this thread guys, (little off topic) but after every session of play of this game: being such a movie buff, all I could think of is how amazing will a Fallout movie be if Hollywood ever decided to go all out (It has to be very expensive prodcution) and make a 2.5 hour long epic feature?? huh?

Just think about the Fallout Universe? it's as ideal for a film as it is for a game, never mind the interesting characters and the cool looking mutated creatures: You have such amazing sets, great 50's American theme, you have the post apocalyptic deserts, art deco, blah blah,

Maybe I've been playing this game too much lately, because all I do right after turning the game off is imagine (make my own) Fallout the Movie Teaser Trailer in my head :D I pretend it's the first ever debut of the movie trailer at Comicon and all the gamers, nerds and fallout fans alike are going crazy seeing the very first frame of the trailer in a dark press conference hall at Comicon.

I don't have the entire plot of the movie down just yet I would imagine it would take from some of the best plot lines of the last two games :lol But I can visualize the entire trailer which is mostly a montage of cool scenes form the last two games ( I've only played those two) done in live action!!

EDIT: And Oh yeah the Cast should not be crammed with known Hollywood stars, just new but good unfamiliar actors, maybe thrown in John Hamm, John Slattery and even Steve Busemi in the mix as side characters but the main cast should be less familiar actors.

The story should be written by Cormac McCarthy, the screenplay should be adapted by Alex Garland and the movie should be directed by the Cohen Bros... just sayin! my suggestions if you have better people to work on it, feel free...

Anyway I think I need sleep! I seriously did derail this thread, this could be a great topic for a new thread though.

"Fallout The Movie!" Make it happen Gaf!!:D
 

Jerk

Banned
tokkun said:
I know that karma doesn't play that big a role in the game, but I always feel like I'm being judged when the "You Lost Karma" noise plays.

Wait, there is a point where it actually plays a role?
 

tokkun

Member
Jerk 2.0 said:
Wait, there is a point where it actually plays a role?

Yep. Cass will leave you if your karma is too bad.

In the quest you get from the NCR Ranger near Nelson, if your karma is too high, you will have to pass a speech check to get the quest
(This is the quest where you are asked to kill the crucified NCR captives)

There are probably a few other examples.
 

Ledsen

Member
EricHasNoPull said:
Yeah I am having a decent (almost crash free experience on the PC too) I've put in like 140 hours now and I had about 8 crashes all together and 5 out of that 8 crashes started to happen ironically after the patches :lol recently I also crammed the game with buncha mods, so...that could be it too.

Constantly hearing people's frustrations and complaints about this game on their consoles, I must say I hardly share their pain.

which kind of makes me think that the PC version is significantly superior in performance... granted you have a PC that's not older than 5 years with a decent Graphic card(mine's a 3.5 year old PC, quad core, 4 gigs RAM, nvidia Gforce 9600 GT ) Guess it's not half bad.

No it's not, you're just lucky. Read my and many others experiences. The PC version is a buggy mess, a trainwreck of epic proportions. For example, like I wrote in a reply to one of your earlier posts, the latest patch cut my framerate in half.
 

TTG

Member
Question about Yes Man and Mr. House as the main quest branches out:

I'm through with Yes Man's original layout. Won over the Boomers, persuaded the Khan's to take a hike, Finished the Brotherhood of Steel questline(even though that didn't win them over, I only had the option to ignore) and took care of both of the casinos on the strip. Finally, I got into the bunker under the fort and activated the bot army. My problem is that the next step seems to be to kill Mr. House. That kind of sucks because I don't know his plans, I go into his casino and the first thing he says is to give up the chip... which I don't want to do. Is agreeing to give up the chip and then reloading the only way to really get a grasp of the way that's gonna turn out?
 
bonesmccoy said:
I like how the BoS in FNV makes you reconsider the BoS and Outcasts in F3. The Outcasts do seem a lot more like the 'real' BoS.
Indeed. I loved being a part of the Capital Wasteland BoS, but the ones in New Vegas are, save for a few members, a lot more conservative.
I didn't enjoy blowing them up, but ultimately I didn't regret it either.

I wouldn't mind seeing the effect the Capital Wasteland section has on the overall Brotherhood organisation in the long run. I suspect conflict. Now that'd be something cool for a next Fallout game.
 

Coxswain

Member
TTG said:
Question about Yes Man and Mr. House as the main quest branches out:
Even if you do that,
you'll get the chip back, and you're not locked in to House's path
. I'm also fairly certain that
the things you'll be doing for House with the chip are the exact same things Yes Man will make you do (ie: Upgrading the Securitrons, activating the Securitron army at Fortification Hill, etc), at least for a while,
so you're not even really working against your own interests if you go ahead and do that.
 

BeeDog

Member
I'm running around with Veronica right now; if I slap some Brotherhood power armor on her, will it cause any issues (e.g. NCR will attack on sight)?
 
BeeDog said:
I'm running around with Veronica right now; if I slap some Brotherhood power armor on her, will it cause any issues (e.g. NCR will attack on sight)?
As far as I know, no. I've had Veronica with me for about half the game in Brotherhood T-51b Power Armor, and the NCR didn't care.

The moment I put it on, however, they unleashed hell on me. Good thing I found that non-Brotherhood set.
 
Kurtofan said:
Question about The House always win part 5:
Am I forced to destroy the Brotherhood or is there another way?
The only way to avoid destroying the brotherhood is siding with the NCR and forging an alliance with McNamara. If you ousted McNamara for Hardin you'll have to destroy them as well as Hardin will refuse an alliance. Or you can just do Yes Man's route, but that's more of an anarchy ending.
 

ezekial45

Banned
Kurtofan said:
Question about The House always win part 5:
Am I forced to destroy the Brotherhood or is there another way?

If you're worried about the
power armor training
, there is another way to get it through
Arcade's
personal quest.
 

obonicus

Member
TTG said:
Question about Yes Man and Mr. House as the main quest branches out:

I'm through with Yes Man's original layout. Won over the Boomers, persuaded the Khan's to take a hike, Finished the Brotherhood of Steel questline(even though that didn't win them over, I only had the option to ignore) and took care of both of the casinos on the strip. Finally, I got into the bunker under the fort and activated the bot army. My problem is that the next step seems to be to kill Mr. House. That kind of sucks because I don't know his plans, I go into his casino and the first thing he says is to give up the chip... which I don't want to do. Is agreeing to give up the chip and then reloading the only way to really get a grasp of the way that's gonna turn out?

Yes Man and Mr. House's (and NCR's, actually) quests have significant overlap, right until the end. I believe you can keep Yes Man in reserve right up to the last mission.
 
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