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Father Ted and the absurd sitcom

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mclem

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Father Ted is 20 years old this week. Now let me pause for a moment, so you can all feel old, and then I'll move on.

It's arguably one of the finest sitcoms ever broadcast on British TV; it was just three series long, but really captured the imagination; people today will still randomly interject with things like "FECK! ARSE! GERLS!", "Ah go on, go on, go on, go on..." or "Careful now. Down with this sort of thing".

But one of the things it does well - and the larger subject for the thread - is the absurdity. Only Fools and Horses, for instance, or Cheers, or Friends, they're all still somewhat grounded in something that's recognisably The Real World. Father Ted, though, does something different. It's a world that looks like the real world, but is significantly skewed. The bits where it's weird are played entirely deadpan; this is a world that has its own rules, and its own bizarre internal logic. And that's the sort of thing I love.

Take for instance, the very first episode, where the cast take a trip to Craggy Island Funland:

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Absurd, yes. Funny to look at. But still something that makes a kind of sense when you're familiar with how the world works.

And there's similar oddities, too. The group of priests getting lost in a department store. The father with warehouses full of Nazi memorabilia. The Irish entry to Eurovision. The 'All Priests Stars in Their Eyes Lookalike Competition'. They all make a kind of sense in this world. It's cohesive. Still absurd, but it works.


That's got me thinking about other sitcoms that fit that bill; sitcoms that aren't really in the real world but do have their own internal logic. Arrested Development. Spaced. Community. It's Garry Shandling's Show. Sean's Show. Soap. Yonderland. And then... then I drew a blank. Didn't quite want to count League of Gentlemen, given the implication is that *outside* Royston Vasey, the world is just about sane. But it came to my notice that that's really the sort of thing I adore: once you're invested in a world with a disproportionate quantity of priests, or one where a frozen banana stand is genuinely regarded as a viable investment, or one where there's an uncontrollable primal urge to join in with a finger-gun battle, just the existence of a bit more weirdness to flesh the world out goes a long way. Sitcoms where the world itself is amusing, not just the people in it.

So... are there any other sitcoms along those lines I've missed? Animation has plenty, of course - the advantage of just being able to draw the weird stuff in your mind - and there's a few on radio too, with You'll Have Had Your Tea and Bleak Expectations springing to mind - but it seems significantly rarer in live-action, and that's something I'd like to see more of.
 
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Black Books was always the spiritual successor to this in my head; Manny is basically an older Dougal.
 
My first thought was 30 Rock. Followed by Better Off Ted. I've been meaning to watch Father Ted ever since I saw IT Crowd and fell in love with it. More of this kind of humor is just what I need. These are absolutely my favorite kinds of sitcoms. Much better than the "grounded, reality" sitcoms. So many more opportunities to be hilarious.
 

firehawk12

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I think Spaced kind of fits, but mostly because it's so referential which doesn't make sense in the context of the "real world".
 

mclem

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Two good ones just came to mind:

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The Young Ones


30 Rock

Both fit the bill perfectly I think, they have their own weird little world that has its own rules

Not yet seen 30Rock, but you're quite right about The Young Ones, I should have come up with that.
 

firehawk12

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I love just how meta Spaced is.

Has any other sitcom ever been as meta?
Not really, unfortunately.

Something like The Big Bang Theory is based on characters saying "Episode 1 is bad" as opposed to Spaced, where Simon Pegg burns his entire Star Wars collection on the funeral pyre.
 

cacildo

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What is the highest point of Father Ted? The bit its most well known for?

I know father ted for little more than a year. The bit that got me the most (and got my family that really dont care about tv or comedies or sitcoms), was the whole Kicking the bishop in the arse arc. My mother went red laughing at that

I know "Down with this sort of thing" is a big deal, was it the highest point of the show in europe?
 

mclem

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The Mighty Boosh, perhaps?

Boosh is a good call, and I've just come up with the let's-be-honest-it'll-never-be-repeated People Like Us.

While it's not a sitcom, as such, I feel I ought to mention The Armando Iannucci Shows at this point, because there's still an underlying logic and persistence to them ("Hello, Hugh"!)
 

mclem

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I know father ted for little more than a year. The bit that got me the most (and got my family that really dont care about tv or comedies or sitcoms), was the whole Kicking the bishop in the arse arc. My mother went red laughing at that
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I know "Down with this sort of thing" is a big deal, was it the highest point of the show in europe?

Dunno if it'll be different now, but when there was a vote on the best episode, Speed 3 won. It's certainly a candidate for the best ever.
 

Spuck-uk

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Not really, unfortunately.

Something like The Big Bang Theory is based on characters saying "Episode 1 is bad" as opposed to Spaced, where Simon Pegg burns his entire Star Wars collection on the funeral pyre.

The IT crowd maybe.

Not an accident, give it's written by Graham Linnehan, the guy behind Father Ted
 

Stuart444

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One of my favourite scenes in Father Ted is Mrs Doyle and the ladies learning about football. The "You're not singing" bit made me burst out laughing.

Also generally anything with Father Jack was great.
 

infi

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What is the highest point of Father Ted? The bit its most well known for?

I know father ted for little more than a year. The bit that got me the most (and got my family that really dont care about tv or comedies or sitcoms), was the whole Kicking the bishop in the arse arc. My mother went red laughing at that

I know "Down with this sort of thing" is a big deal, was it the highest point of the show in europe?

Those two scenes you mentioned and Ted looking like he's giving a Hitler speech are probably the biggest individual scenes.
 
What is the highest point of Father Ted? The bit its most well known for?

I know father ted for little more than a year. The bit that got me the most (and got my family that really dont care about tv or comedies or sitcoms), was the whole Kicking the bishop in the arse arc. My mother went red laughing at that

I know "Down with this sort of thing" is a big deal, was it the highest point of the show in europe?

I dunno. There are lots of bits. There was only ever 18 episodes (I think?) and I don't remember there being any bad ones. My personal favourite is when they get a little ding in the car and try and beat it out

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Father Ted was genius TV. Can easily say that have enjoyed every moment of it.

As for shows like it for out there ideas... Well the mighty boosh is a good shout.
 

daviyoung

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Boosh is a good call, and I've just come up with the let's-be-honest-it'll-never-be-repeated People Like Us.

People Like Us is great because of how straight everything is played. I'd give a shout out to the oft overlooked Roman's Empire and How Not To Live Your Life.

Mongrels is also absolutely absurd but makes sense in our world and theirs. And as has been mentioned The Mighty Boosh is incredible, especially season 2.

Also it's not a sitcom but Dare To Believe is the weirdest comedy show I've ever seen.
 

dankir

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Fooking hell.. bunch of co-workers are from Ireland originally.

We dressed up as father ted characters for one of their Bachelor parties.
Strippers loved our getups lol.
 

Currygan

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Father Ted is pure brilliance. Perhaps not a sitcom in the very sense, but Red Dwarf also has its share of sheer absurdity and is absolutely hilarious to boot
 

cacildo

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I dunno. There are lots of bits. There was only ever 18 episodes (I think?) and I don't remember there being any bad ones. My personal favourite is when they get a little ding in the car and try and beat it out

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The priests sneaking through the lingerie section of the department store?

Those two scenes you mentioned and Ted looking like he's giving a Hitler speech are probably the biggest individual scenes.

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Dunno if it'll be different now, but when there was a vote on the best episode, Speed 3 won. It's certainly a candidate for the best ever.

Well, according to all the replies... its really hard to point a single moment :)

I think its easier to "point a single moment" in sitcoms from europe than the american shows, because the european ones always have only a few episodes

But in this case, it seems "the highest point" is almost all of it!

(Me and my wife have this "The bishop´s face" thing every time we bump into something truly unbeliavable. )

 

huxley00

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Such a great show, creator went and made the IT Crowd later, right?

"Who Shot JR?"

So many good episodes, when the crows kept stealing the old mans glasses, hilarious...the sheep contest scandal, top notch.
 

ruttyboy

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It's a world that looks like the real world, but is significantly skewed.

Have you ever actually been to Ireland?

The show takes on a whole new 'real life' meaning afterwards.

EDIT: Before being attacked, I should perhaps say I have an Irish wife who has shown me the weirder side of Irish culture.
 
Slight correction there Cacildo

Father Ted is technically an English show because it was commissioned and aired by an English network but the setting, actors and writers were all Irish and knowing that lot some of them probably won't be too impressed with it being referred to simply as "English".
 

I liked Bottom when I was a kid, but when I've re-watched it in recent years and outside of any nostalgic fondness it's actually very childish and unfunny. Whereas a really good sitcom like Father Ted or Spaced or Only Fools and Horses is still great after decades, I felt like Bottom was just too puerile and silly.
 

cacildo

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Slight correction there Cacildo

Father Ted is technically an English show because it was commissioned and aired by an English network but the setting, actors and writers were all Irish and knowing that lot some of them probably won't be too impressed with it being referred to simply as "English".


Sorry about that. Gonna try to correct this on my post above
 
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