Has anyone ever read this book? Even if it's all bullshit, it's still an amazing read. It basically puts forth the theory that an ancient race of men not known to history built the pyramids in Egypt as well as the weird shit in South America. The book goes all over the place and it is an insane read. I don't feel like typing up the bulk of its points, but can anyone else comment on the book?
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ManaByte said:
Pretty sure Underworld : The Mysterious Origins of Civilization does.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...104-3326785-8575165?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
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ManaByte said:
ive never even heard of it
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Ghost said:
Though you know, contrary to popular belief the Giza pyramids were not built by slaves.
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OB1 said:Though you know, contrary to popular belief the Giza pyramids were not built by slaves.
Nope! But it sure is a popular western belief! I was in Egypt last year, and completely humbled by the things I saw there. Simply amazing.
As for the pyramid off of Japan, it is huge, possibly part of a whole city. I've known about it for a long time. Yes, I watch too much National Geographic Channel, and maybe Discoery too!
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I never knew about that Japanese pyramid though. Pretty amazing. Do they know when it was built?
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I've never heard of any definitive dates given, but some people who have studied the ruins suggest that they could be as much as 8000-12,000 years old. Some suggestions have hinted that it may have become submerged following the end of the last Ice Age, while others say that tectonic activity in the area may have caused them to sink.
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That's amazing.
ManaByte said:
Riddle of the Sphinx I think... he based it mainly (the age thing) on positioning of constellations relative to the famous "vents" that don't completely exit the pyramids, which I found odd. It was an engaging read, but most of Graham Hancock's theories or conclusions are pulled out of his ass. But among that are a lot of interesting facts in his books. Overall they over-romanticize human history, at worst they condensend ancient humans in assuming they couldn't be capable of such great things.
Widfara said:
Can't find the link to the large "digging" machine, but the "batteries" have been found in Iraq and places in the general area of Greece.
Here's a BBC link on the ancient batteries:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2804257.stm
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ManaByte said:It's in ruins, but yea. It's closer in design to the South American pyramids than an Egyption one. It's pretty huge as well.
Holy shit! This is the first I've heard of this as well, and my wife is Japanese. I doubt she knew either. That's pretty damn cool.
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In other words: It's all total fucking bullshit. It's just really yet another romantic "Atlantians created the great civilizations!" notion, but attempting to make it scientifically based. It's like the so-called "Intelligent Design", without the Creationism.
Truly, each of the civilizations came about independently and are entirely unique. Too much evidence points in that direction.
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Hancocks work is let down by his 'Daniken" like leaps to wacko conclusions, some of the questions asked in the book are interesting, but some of Hancocks explanations for them are not.
I'm still kind of interested in the Piri Rei Map and it's origins, referenced by Hancock I believe in FotG (Taken from Hapgoods earlier work though). - A 15th century map, apparently based on a much earlier work that purports to show incredible coastline detail including the underlying coastline of Antartica, apparently a geological feature not rediscovered until the 20th century.
A better book in my opinion is Richard L. Thompson & Michael Cremo's Forbidden Archeology which details artifacts and items that seem to question the age of human civilisation in a similar way, This book is better because it only catalogues the oddities rather than jumping to conclusions.
Although an ISKCON book, little in the way of vedic-influenced conclusions make this book rather interesting. (They found so much that an original plan to provide vedic answers and conclusions was dropped, and a second book planned.) - Items include the oft-seen Mayan golden delta-winged "Airplane", gold chains revealed embedded inside coal once they were broken open (implying the gold chain being around at the time the organic matter that formed the coal was still on the surface) and bipedal "human-like" 5 toed footprints in rock that was millions of years old.
I'm still kind of interested in the Piri Rei Map and it's origins, referenced by Hancock I believe in FotG (Taken from Hapgoods earlier work though). - A 15th century map, apparently based on a much earlier work that purports to show incredible coastline detail including the underlying coastline of Antartica, apparently a geological feature not rediscovered until the 20th century.
A better book in my opinion is Richard L. Thompson & Michael Cremo's Forbidden Archeology which details artifacts and items that seem to question the age of human civilisation in a similar way, This book is better because it only catalogues the oddities rather than jumping to conclusions.
Although an ISKCON book, little in the way of vedic-influenced conclusions make this book rather interesting. (They found so much that an original plan to provide vedic answers and conclusions was dropped, and a second book planned.) - Items include the oft-seen Mayan golden delta-winged "Airplane", gold chains revealed embedded inside coal once they were broken open (implying the gold chain being around at the time the organic matter that formed the coal was still on the surface) and bipedal "human-like" 5 toed footprints in rock that was millions of years old.
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Heh, Vennt's right, there's nothing wrong with stuff that "doesn't make sense" according to the "accepted" version of archaeology -- after all, we're learning new things every day. Science, as we've discussed ad nauseum is not about faith, it's about questions and evidence.
However, when people like CRAZY DUDE (as I prefer to call him) come up with half cocked theorums that have no basis in reality whatsoever, I tend to get a smidge bit peeved. It's one thing to question the accepted views, but this is just poppycock.
Not that I wouldn't mind excavating most of the sites he's actually been to. Envious, I am.
Edit: Speaking of controversial theories, here's one based in fact.
The Solutrian civilization, during the Ice Age managed to travel from Southern France during the last Ice Age, across the Atlantic Ocean and then settled into the eastern part of North America, long before the Bering Strait ever was permissable to travel.
The Clovis civilization's tool making method appears to support this theory, along with the fact that DNA "X" as scientists have called it, among the Native American population share common routes with Europeans rather than Asians.
Still, a supercivilization that totally pwned the earth and "seeded" the Great Civilzations of Yore from Mesopatamia and Egypt to South American Aztec and whatnot is just... ludicrous with the amount of evidence pointing in the entirely opposite direction.
However, when people like CRAZY DUDE (as I prefer to call him) come up with half cocked theorums that have no basis in reality whatsoever, I tend to get a smidge bit peeved. It's one thing to question the accepted views, but this is just poppycock.
Not that I wouldn't mind excavating most of the sites he's actually been to. Envious, I am.
Edit: Speaking of controversial theories, here's one based in fact.
The Solutrian civilization, during the Ice Age managed to travel from Southern France during the last Ice Age, across the Atlantic Ocean and then settled into the eastern part of North America, long before the Bering Strait ever was permissable to travel.
The Clovis civilization's tool making method appears to support this theory, along with the fact that DNA "X" as scientists have called it, among the Native American population share common routes with Europeans rather than Asians.
Still, a supercivilization that totally pwned the earth and "seeded" the Great Civilzations of Yore from Mesopatamia and Egypt to South American Aztec and whatnot is just... ludicrous with the amount of evidence pointing in the entirely opposite direction.
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From now on let him be known forever as Graham Poppycock!
That'll never leave me now, Thanks Dragona
From now on let him be known forever as Graham Poppycock!
That'll never leave me now, Thanks Dragona
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Graham "CRAZY DUDE" Poppycock! There's a nice ring to that.
I mean I love the myths of the halcyon days past, but I certainly don't entertain the idea that they were at all accurate. See Herodatus and how much of his history as we "knew and accepted" it, until the advances of modern archaeology, is mainly made up. As much as I'd like to, heh.
I mean I love the myths of the halcyon days past, but I certainly don't entertain the idea that they were at all accurate. See Herodatus and how much of his history as we "knew and accepted" it, until the advances of modern archaeology, is mainly made up. As much as I'd like to, heh.
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