entremet
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https://apnews.com/66e699491a3b4782...ecline-has-some-high-schools-disbanding-teams
The South and The West seem to have been avoiding as steep declines. No surprise, those are football powerhouses in terms of player development.
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Footballs decline has some high schools disbanding teams
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https://apnews.com/66e699491a3b4782...ecline-has-some-high-schools-disbanding-teams
The South and The West seem to have been avoiding as steep declines. No surprise, those are football powerhouses in terms of player development.
benicillin
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Good, the health implications are long lasting and practically abuse.
outunderthestars
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Gabriel_Logan
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Sounds like the wealthy are pulling out of the sport.
Allforce
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You do realize the Browns are desperate for a quarterback right? This post is so selfish...
Oh hey, an article about a local high school.
Centennial is one of the top public schools in the country so it makes sense the parents who attend said school wouldn't want their kids developing CTE for a sport they won't need to get into college.
Seems like the future of college football will be even more dependent on disadvantaged youths from communities of color who have no other option while those of privilege watch. Basically moving us further back to the gladiatorial system.
Centennial is one of the top public schools in the country so it makes sense the parents who attend said school wouldn't want their kids developing CTE for a sport they won't need to get into college.
Seems like the future of college football will be even more dependent on disadvantaged youths from communities of color who have no other option while those of privilege watch. Basically moving us further back to the gladiatorial system.
Anyone who follows college football recruiting has been aware of this trend for a while now. I suspect it will become a real issue for colleges within a decade.
No real way to avoid CTEs unless you are playing flag football. It will be interesting to see how colleges and the NFL pivot over the next decade.
No real way to avoid CTEs unless you are playing flag football. It will be interesting to see how colleges and the NFL pivot over the next decade.
old manatee
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NFL is a dead man walking. Parents these days are hyper obsessed with protecting their kids. It will take a while, but there will be a generation that grows up playing something other than football, and the entire high school/ college/ pro football machine will run out of fresh bodies for the hopper.
old
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None of my friends are letting their sons play football. And those guys love football themselves. They never shut up about fantasy football or their betting pools.
I think its mostly about being realistic with pro prospects and risk vs reward. None of those guys I know are big. None of their kids are going to be 66 250lbs either. They know their sons will be lucky to get a D1 scholarship...at best. Theyre not going to be big enough, fast enough, or long enough to make a pro roster. They know that.
At that point youre taking a lot of risk of permanent brain injury playing peewee, JV, varsity, and college without any chance of big NFL paydays. All risk no reward. Not worth it anymore.
I think its mostly about being realistic with pro prospects and risk vs reward. None of those guys I know are big. None of their kids are going to be 66 250lbs either. They know their sons will be lucky to get a D1 scholarship...at best. Theyre not going to be big enough, fast enough, or long enough to make a pro roster. They know that.
At that point youre taking a lot of risk of permanent brain injury playing peewee, JV, varsity, and college without any chance of big NFL paydays. All risk no reward. Not worth it anymore.
Not likely. Pay to play still dominates US soccer. Most of the elite athletes will transition to basketball. Others to wrestling or track.
Lightning_Roller
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The only selfish post I see is someone caring more about a damn football team needing a quarterback than the well being of someone who probably doesn't want brain damage.
The sum of money athletes can make playing baseball is insane. Plus, players' can be play long and healthy careers. The challenge with baseball is that the skill level is super high, so you can't just throw a big body onto the field and get an All-Star.
Still, hopefully Aaron Judge gets some would-be football players to play baseball. We need another Big Hurt too -- he was monstrous!
Still, hopefully Aaron Judge gets some would-be football players to play baseball. We need another Big Hurt too -- he was monstrous!
RumblingRosco
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No kids (yet), but my wife and I talk about this a decent amount. We haven't really investigated deeply, but my initials thoughts are that baseball, basketball, tennis, and golf are pretty thoroughly in the "Worth the risk" category of sports, basketball, hockey, and soccer are in the "Might be worth the risk" category, and football and wrestling are in the "Probably not worth the risk" category, in regards to youth sports anyway.
I'm least confident in my assessment of wrestling and basketball. Either way, my wife and I want to really look into the research more before we'd stop our kid from playing any of the sports, although football seems like a no-brainer for avoiding.
I'm least confident in my assessment of wrestling and basketball. Either way, my wife and I want to really look into the research more before we'd stop our kid from playing any of the sports, although football seems like a no-brainer for avoiding.
You cant actually be serious...
Brock Reiher
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It probably "won't" "increase" "much"
StreetDisciple
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This makes me sad...
Wrestling can be problematic if cutting weight and pretty hard on the joints. Basketball is problematic when it comes to knees problems although other injuries can happen as is the case with any sport.
I went to a high school in Maryland, very similar to tye place in the article, and you could see this happeneing beginning 3/4 years ago. I had a few friends who were in JV football that switched to track, tennis, or baseball. I can't say if it was all from the parents pushing it, but I know that their parents seemed relieved that they were away from the sport.
From what my sisters tell me (same school) the football programme is unlikely to last, but girls soccer and athletics are the key sports focuses for the school.
From what my sisters tell me (same school) the football programme is unlikely to last, but girls soccer and athletics are the key sports focuses for the school.
Maintenance
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So there is still some hope then.
Chinbo37
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Well endorsing such a move would be seen as a tacit approval or acknowledgement that football leads to brain disease.
I grew up loving football. Watched it ever Sunday. But if it went away it wouldnt be the end of the world. Tons of other sports and entertainment to enjoy.
PushTheButtonMax
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Oh my fucking God.
No one use sarcasm or any type of humor on this forum.
sixteen-bit
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Basketball imo
Woah, how awesome. Man I would have done that.
Enormous. As a high school teacher I get to hear much of what students talk about with their friends and most people from my generation would be shocked at how frequently their sports conversations are about soccer. It might be the youth participation levels, FIFA or access to far more availability (tv) but I'd say that soccer is what they talk about the most when it comes to sports. I also see that with my own kids and nieces/nephews...I far more frequently hear a kid ask "hey did you see that goal???" than "did you see that catch???".
When I went to school many kids played soccer but nobody ever watched it or talked about it with classmates (not counting foreign born).
Except it hasn't. The big money was in football, but team sports has seen massive decline in younger ages especially in once dominant baseball aka little league and softball which is struggling in areas. Far fewer kids are outside playing sports.
I do think a lot of parents need to realize sports have injuries but football has perhaps some of the most devastating long term impacts. Instead of football, look to basketball and baseball and soccer. Injuries still happen but on a far less scale than contact football.
FortuneFaded
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Too soon Cola. Too soon.
Kite
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lol Nothing, at least in my part of the country. Soccer is what kids play when they are very young before they join real sports like football, basketball and maybe baseball.
Schattenjäger
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I think American football will end before the Browns ever win anything
If you couple the physical risks with the salary cap and lower earning potential, its a no brainer for the real talented athletes to go into other sports...
So many baseball players played other sports like football but stuck with baseball .. I see that trend to continue
I don't see football ending without some drastic change first.. they should try making professional flag football .. no tackling .. that would be a win win
OriginofHysteria
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Doesn't soccer lead to a higher rate of concussions than football though? Apparently women's soccer was the most prevalent in concussions
Right, because this forum isnt filled with people who defend dumb things.
nekkid
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Hari Seldon
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I am of the generation that when I was little, EVERYONE played baseball. It seemed like every community could field an entire little league with 6 or more teams. It definitely seems like that is far less popular now, maybe it will make a return.
My dude! Imagine my excitement when I moved and found out that there was actually a Slamball facility nearby. That excitement never turned into anything more than amusement at the possibility of playing the sport I made fun of for two years back around 2003, but maybe one day when some friends visit...