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themadcowtipper

Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
is signing old time football legends to contracts, once a player retires, he is no longer a part of the NFL Players Association.It is in the rumor mill section, so take it with a grain of salt.
 
why VC? don't you get it yet? no one wants an "old time" football game. just come up with a game that has a fictional league of 30 or so teams with fictional players and a mature storyline. it would have to be a sim though. you were close to being a great game with espn nfl 2k5 (well... it needed a lot of work but it wasn't a lost cause), just continue that!
 
2K5 was the best football game ever made. The game needs to stay alive in some capacity so this is good news.
 
The Visual Concepts PR people were kind enough to give me a ride to the Microsoft Press Conference at E3. On the ride over, I told them that Visual Concepts absolutely positively had to make a football game.

With monsters.

Like Mutant League Football.

The good news is that they didn't push me out of the moving car. The bad news is my young boy dreams of playing a Mutant League Football-esque game from Visual Concepts will likely not come true.
 
The good news is that they didn't push me out of the moving car. The bad news is my young boy dreams of playing a Mutant League Football-esque game from Visual Concepts will likely not come true.

:lol

Seriously though, I hope Tiburon brings back the Mutant League series next-gen.
 
Legends football wtf. Are we gonna be able to use them in current geriatric form? Disco Stu tell VC they are wasting a bunch of time and money on a project that will BOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB.

An over the top football game with monsters would rule.
 
Back in the 80s, Sega popularized the idea of sports stars having their own games. Maybe Visual Concepts can do the same thing... funny enough... with the VERY SAME STARS.

This has me thinking that all Tecmo needs to do is release a good, arcade (read: not xXtr3me, just fun) football title with fake teams. Is it really that big of a drawback to not have the primal primadonnas of the NFL in your game?

In my opinion, EA's disgusting greed has just opened the doors for some of the most creative football titles we've seen in years... it's up to the developers though

"Tecmo Bowl 2006" would sell boatloads
 
Seems like a good idea to me. They should take a different approach to the sport genre, make it more like a fighter where every team has strengths and weaknesses but they are all balanced.
 
DMczaf said:
:lol

Seriously though, I hope Tiburon brings back the Mutant League series next-gen.

A revival of the Mutant League series or something that closely resembles it would kick so much ass. I never got to play the Mutant League games back in the day (was a SNES guy), but the pics looked awesome and the impressions of them my friends told me made me want to play them so freakin' bad.

Of course, if that doesn't happen you know Nintendo probably has Mario Football in the pipeline somewhere. :lol
 
Every publisher knows that an unlicensed football sim doesn't have a sufficient market, so the production value allotted to these football experiments won't be enough to let them be competitive with Madden in executing as complete a product.
 
vc was talking about doing this when the ea / nfl deal first went down. apparently they've followed through.

personally, nfl aside, i would have liked to have seen VC pick up the and1 license, but oh well.
 
HCgamer said:
2K5 was the best football game ever made. The game needs to stay alive in some capacity so this is good news.
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Dude, I respect VC and have supported them since 2K on the DC, but this just isn't true. Not being able to control your cornerback because he goes into some apeshit animation is unacceptable. And yes, I used all of the custom sliders to help the issue and it was still there. Not being able to spy the QB (an option which was in the manual but never in the game) is also unacceptable. I'm not knocking your love for the game because I liked it, but it's not the best football game ever, heck, it's not even the best game in the series.
 
EA says it is having problems coming up with fresh ideas. Yet, they are forcing everyone else to come up with ideas by buying exclusivity. Kind of ironic they are forcing innovationa dn evolution in sports games by sacrifing the innocations themselves.
 
i don't want to get banned (new rules at the top ladies!), so i'll just make this short and non-biased: nfl 2k5 was clearly not the best football game ever made.

nfl 2k5 seemed to be a hit with people who aren't HUGE football fans, and thus can overlook some of the very unforgiving (to madden fans) flaws. i didn't completely hate espn nfl 2k5, but some of the stuff in the game was simply too much to put up with.

EA says it is having problems coming up with fresh ideas. Yet, they are forcing everyone else to come up with ideas by buying exclusivity. Kind of ironic they are forcing innovationa dn evolution in sports games by sacrifing the innocations themselves.

wow, that's pretty amazing that you relate that to football games. want to name the last football game that "EA" developed? it's a trick question because you likely will be unable to answer that question without a trip to google. bottom line is EA doesn't make football games, tiburon does. and exactly what would you like to be "innovated" in the football genre? you want tiburon to put 15 players on the field and change the rules of the game? how about every 5th snap that can insert a "rainbow ball" that is worth 12 points instead of 6 if you throw a touchdown? how about they map every body part of a player to a button on the controller so if you want to move forward 1 yard, you push up on both analog sticks, then push X + A + Y + B + White + Black + L + R? innovation at it's finest!

bottom line is tiburon IS innovating, and when you play madden 2006 you are going to see that. the qb vision feature (which includes vision, leading the receiver high or low in the air, the entire thing) is the best feature added to a football game in quite sometime, "EA" or not. i understand people are upset that EA has bought out the license and so on, but it's pretty obvious that some of you aren't giving madden a chance this year and you are blindly calling madden a rehash or a roster update. and that is just a joke. but hey what can i do? enjoy legends football 2k6. i'm sure it will innovate the fuck out of you
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
i don't want to get banned (new rules at the top ladies!), so i'll just make this short and non-biased: nfl 2k5 was clearly not the best football game ever made.

nfl 2k5 seemed to be a hit with people who aren't HUGE football fans, and thus can overlook some of the very unforgiving (to madden fans) flaws. i didn't completely hate espn nfl 2k5, but some of the stuff in the game was simply too much to put up with.



wow, that's pretty amazing that you relate that to football games. want to name the last football game that "EA" developed? it's a trick question because you likely will be unable to answer that question without a trip to google. bottom line is EA doesn't make football games, tiburon does. and exactly what would you like to be "innovated" in the football genre? you want tiburon to put 15 players on the field and change the rules of the game? how about every 5th snap that can insert a "rainbow ball" that is worth 12 points instead of 6 if you throw a touchdown? how about they map every body part of a player to a button on the controller so if you want to move forward 1 yard, you push up on both analog sticks, then push X + A + Y + B + White + Black + L + R? innovation at it's finest!

bottom line is tiburon IS innovating, and when you play madden 2006 you are going to see that. the qb vision feature (which includes vision, leading the receiver high or low in the air, the entire thing) is the best feature added to a football game in quite sometime, "EA" or not. i understand people are upset that EA has bought out the license and so on, but it's pretty obvious that some of you aren't giving madden a chance this year and you are blindly calling madden a rehash or a roster update. and that is just a joke. but hey what can i do? enjoy legends football 2k6. i'm sure it will innovate the fuck out of you


And who owns Tiburon? Hell, their name is EA TIBURON.

Just take a look at the non NFL football games, they can not get by with just new camera angles. They have to make people want their games despite not having the NFL licence. They are forced to try new things that you can not find, or do (NFL restrictions), in other games, yet still make it feel like football.
I am not upset that EA bought the licence, I was implying that was a GOOD thing. You will see fresh new ideas come out in ther other football games, that might become standard in future Maddens.
 
Society said:
And who owns Tiburon? Hell, their name is EA TIBURON.

Just take a look at the non NFL football games, they can not get by with just new camera angles. They have to make people want their games despite not having the NFL licence.

As for the storyline in question, it follows the exploits of a spoiled team owner named Blake Doogan. As the inheritor of a NAFA football team known as the Los Angeles Show, Doogan is quickly thrown into quite a predicament when his father dies in a mysterious yacht explosion at sea. As it turns out, Blake's dad was in major debt to a Jamaican crime lord known as Nestor Farrington -- a notorious gambler, pimp, and drug trafficker -- and now his pop's debt has become his debt. In order to pay off the kingpin and save his own hide, Blake is forced to enter his team of football players into an underground fighting organization to help earn the money. And from there, we're told, things start to get really interesting...

Though told from Blake's perspective, Road to Sunday will follow seven main characters of varying positions from the National American Football Association's unluckiest squad. Each character (be they quarterback, running back, wide receiver, linebacker, defensive lineman, defensive back, or kicker), will have their own unique abilities and maneuvers that will be imperative to the player's winning strategy. What's more, is that since your football team is battling other football teams in-between their actual games, the results of those fights will be reflected in a gridiron contest. So if you take one of the Miami Mako's primary players out in hand-to-hand combat, his team will be that much weaker on game day. But the same rings true for your guys too -- because if you hurt on of your own, you're going to be in trouble on Sunday afternoon.


Now THIS makes me want their game.
 
Society said:
I do not know if you are sarcastic, but that does sound interesting to me, at least.

Well, whether or not you're a fan of the plot is irrelevant because it's 989 sports. Midway's looks good though.
 
And who owns Tiburon? Hell, their name is EA TIBURON.

tiburon is not EA. EA could feasibly give the madden development rights to another of their development teams. just because someone in EA says "its hard to come up with new ideas" doesn't mean it relates to Tiburon, football or madden.

Just take a look at the non NFL football games, they can not get by with just new camera angles. They have to make people want their games despite not having the NFL licence. They are forced to try new things that you can not find, or do (NFL restrictions), in other games, yet still make it feel like football.

i'm not sure what you're talking about. when has any football game just added new camera angles? what non-madden games are innovating football and how are they doing it? there is certainly no awesome on-field innovations going on outside of madden from what i've seen. if you are talking about the mature themes featured in some games, i guess you could call that an innovation if you want, but you will never ever see that in an officially licensed NFL game, so how would that "help" tiburon that other companies are doing it?

madden is the most innovative football game on the market today, and has been for quite sometime. that isn't going to change
 
A couple of things about the NFL exclusivity deal.

1. EA did not approach the NFL. The NFL threw this exclusivity offer out there.

2. EA was NOT the highest bidder. ( shocking as that may be )

But lets keep making them the enemy, as so many of you enjoy doing.
 
Dante said:
A couple of things about the NFL exclusivity deal.

EA did not approach the NFL. The NFL through this offer out there.

EA was NOT the highest bidder.

But lets keep making them the enemy, as so many of you enjoy doing.

I did chase her with my car. She ran in front of my car.

I did not want to kill her.

Why are you making me the enemy?
 
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