Game Boy vs. The World ... can anything stop it?

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Hollywood

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Seriously ... a quote from a recent IGN report ...

"On the other side of Nintendo's handheld fence is the Game Boy Advance and its still-stunning sales numbers. Even with the Nintendo DS stealing all of its media thunder, the Game Boy Advance has sold through more than 800,000 units of GBA and GBA SP systems last week. "

800,000?!?!?!

Game Boy has been selling more than PS2, XBox, GC, DS, etc, etc ... even a couple months back I remember it sold more than the PS2 and Xbox COMBINED. Can anyone or anything stop it? I don't think the PSP or DS even will, with much more power and so on. Even though there hasn't been like, a lot of titles for it that are must have lately - its still doing unbelievable dominance. I think when the PSP comes out the DS will drop to $60 to combat it, but I think the GBA SP will eventually drop to $60 and kick both their asses.

I hear no hype about the Game Boy ever from the Gaming media .. IGN pretty much has been in limbo on its site, and everyone is concentrating on DS and PSP. I hope Nintendo releases a newer GBA SP model with some new features (who knows what, but it would be cool) or maybe a Game Boy classic color scheme system like the NES one released a while back, with a pack-in of a redone Tetris game with lots of features.

Right now it seems like the only things sure in life are death, taxes, and Game Boy.
 
Should the PSP and DS both prove themselves a successed (as I expect they will), they won't top the GBA, imho.
 
Hollywood said:
I hear no hype about the Game Boy ever from the Gaming media ...

Right now it seems like the only things sure in life are death, taxes, and Game Boy.
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That's because its truly crossed over into the mainstream - its not longer in the gaming realm IMO.
 
Hollywood said:
What kind of light does the SP have?
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Frontlighting, which, in comparison, is uneven and washes colors out.

I've flipped back and forth between the SP and the DS with quite a few games, and the improvement from SP to DS is rather drastic.
 
PSOne was just as "unstoppable" when the Dreamcast got released.

When the best content providers switch to DS and PSP (and it looks like most of them already have), the changing of the guard will be inevitable. This is a generation shift...
 
Honestly the only GBA I had was the original one .. do the games really look that much better on the DS .. the Game Boy Advance games played on it - versus the SP?
 
Believe it, Hollywood.

SP -> DS is NOT a big a shift as GBA -> SP, imho, but it's still pretty remarkable.
 
Anyone got a picture comparison of DS playing a GBA game, and SP playing one. And what is the battery comparison of playing a GBA game on DS vs. the SP ... which one lasts longer?
 
well duh, Xbox and PS2 compete with each other, not handhelds. Once PSP is out, i fully expect it to take over the handheld market, Japan will be the 1st, NA wiill take some time, EU should be easy for Sony.
 
Mejilan said:
Believe it, Hollywood.

SP -> DS is NOT a big a shift as GBA -> SP, imho, but it's still pretty remarkable.
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Eh? the addition of a light, and a hinge is a bigger shift than a mic, touchscreen and N64 level 3D graphics?

Cut down on the drugs.
 
A GBA SP with a backlight would be awesome. Hell I'd buy two, one for me and one for my girlfriend, and it would give me enough gbas for four player four swords and crystal chronicles :D

GBA has such an incredible library, my most played system this gen probably.
 
GBA will stay number 1. Its just got more going for it and as DS sales prove GBA will remain king by far. Most people on forums just choose to see what they want to see. They will never accept the reality that is GBA. It will be like the PS2 , Dc, GC and Xbox situation.
 
I'm hoping PSP smacks some form of sense into the minds of consumers and slows down GBA's shamefully high sales.

GBA is a system that doesn't deserve its success.
 
Insertia said:
I'm hoping PSP smacks some form of sense into the minds of consumers and slows down GBA's shamefully high sales.

GBA is a system that doesn't deserve its success.
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Like how PS2 doesnt deserve its success? Take off your fanboy goggles. It is the best system thats why it sells like one.
 
Deg said:
Like how PS2 doesnt deserve its success? Take off your fanboy goggles. It is the best system thats why it sells like one.
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The PS2 is an underpowered console, much like the PSX was, that can still compare (though poorly) to it's competitors. The GBA is the reason why competition should exist. The holding back of the handheld area has gone on far too long IMO and the release of the DS and the PSP should set the handheld market in the right direction. Nintendo's monopoly of the handheld market has done NOTHING to advance it in any way other than generating revenue. Some of my favorite games have been released on the GBA, but I can still see Nintendo's poor intentions with it. The NES classic games are the perfect representations of Nintendo's monopoly in action, IMO.
 
Deg said:
Like how PS2 doesnt deserve its success? Take off your fanboy goggles. It is the best system thats why it sells like one.
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I'd say PS2, Xbox, and GC sell deservedly so.

GBA on the other hand...

Oct. '04 NPD-

HW-GBA: 464,000

SW-

1 POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP Nintendo 4,738,851 $ 142,514
2 POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP Nintendo 4,138,924 $ 129,665
3 SHARK TALE Activision 2,170,846 $ 85,720
4 MARIO PINBALL LAND Nintendo 2,043,483 $ 69,149
5 KIRBY AMAZING MIRROR Nintendo 1,662,038 $ 55,979

When three of its best selling games are shit and it still manages to sell nearly half a million, I find that a little disheartening.

GBA isn't the best system, it doesn't sell based on merit, it's a total consumer-sheep product (which I wouldn‘t mind if it deserved that position) and for the most part, the games it receives just don't justify the amount of hardware it sells.

Therefore I would be happy to see it fall from grace. :)
 
Gattsu25 said:
The PS2 is an underpowered console, much like the PSX was, that can still compare (though poorly) to it's competitors. The GBA is the reason why competition should exist. The holding back of the handheld area has gone on far too long IMO and the release of the DS and the PSP should set the handheld market in the right direction. Nintendo's monopoly of the handheld market has done NOTHING to advance it in any way other than revenue. Some of my favorite games have been released on the GBA, but I can still see Nintendo's intentions with it. The NES classic games are the perfect representations of Nintendo's monopoly in action, IMO.
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The holding back of handheld hardware is your own bullshit because you dont want to accept the fact that Nintendo have done so well due to making the best systems and you dont want to accept that technology at the time of GBA doesnt compare to right now. Your hatred towards the NES classics are the perfect example of this.

Insertia said:
I'd say PS2, Xbox, and GC sell deservedly so.

GBA on the other hand...

Oct. '04 NPD-

HW-GBA: 464,000

SW-

1 POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP Nintendo 4,738,851 $ 142,514
2 POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP Nintendo 4,138,924 $ 129,665
3 SHARK TALE Activision 2,170,846 $ 85,720
4 MARIO PINBALL LAND Nintendo 2,043,483 $ 69,149
5 KIRBY AMAZING MIRROR Nintendo 1,662,038 $ 55,979

When three of its best selling games are shit and it still manages to sell nearly half a million, I find that a little disheartening.

GBA isn't the best system, it doesn't sell based on merit, it's a total consumer-sheep product (which I wouldn‘t mind if it deserved that position) and for the most part, the games it receives just don't justify the amount of hardware it sells.

Therefore I would be happy to see it fall from grace. :)
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Because Pokemon the best selling game this generation is shit because of 'your' opinion which takes more importance over the opinions of millions. Of course you will probably be crying over how a game by SEGA bombs over an EA game again. Whinging over how DC should have outsold PS2 etc.
 
Deg said:
The holding back of handheld hardware is your own bullshit because you dont want to accept the fact that Nintendo have done so well due to making the best systems and you dont want to accept that technology at the time of GBA doesnt compare to right now. Your hatred towards the NES classics are the perfect example of this.
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And when you assume you make an ass of u and me.

In recent years, Nintendo DID nothing to advance the handlehd area until the DS was released...argue what you will but that's NOT a bullshit opinion. Well...they did do something...they released an extremely inexpensive handheld (with a glaring flaw so large that most all of the original GBA owners had to repurchase it at a later date...though this might be an 'honest' mistake) and then prodeed to make a shit-ton of $$$ off of it. They expanded the handheld market, in many areas spending little time, money, and effort and making much. Though they still managed to produce games like Wario Ware (which is the perfect example of how a handheld game should be done, IMO).

The GC is an amazing system and I would go so far as to call it the best designed system this generation.

My hatred toward the NES classics is an amusing part of your post. I love almost all of those games and fully expect you to roll your eyes in disbelief when I say I do, but I see no good intentions with their release. They are just another way for Nintendo to, inexpensively, drain more money off of their loyal fanbase. Nintendo, at least, could have made it less obvious by including more than one title for those prices, but I guess they took a gamble and won.
 
Gattsu25 said:
And when you assume you make an ass of u and me.

In recent years, Nintendo DID nothing to advance the handlehd area until the DS was released...argue what you will but that's NOT a bullshit opinion. Well...they did do something...they released an extremely inexpensive handheld (with a glaring flaw so large that most all of the original GBA owners had to repurchase it at a later date...though this might be an 'honest' mistake) and then prodeed to make a shit-ton of $$$ off of it. They expanded the handheld market, in many areas spending little time, money, and effort and making much. Though they still managed to produce games like Wario Ware (which is the perfect example of how a handheld game should be done, IMO).
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:lol 'PATHETIC desperation' sums up what you said perfectly.

The GC is an amazing system and I would go so far as to call it the best designed system this generation.
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Umm no. Where's the dvd? the shape etc? It has plenty of flaws.

My hatred toward the NES classics is an amusing part of your post. I love almost all of those games and fully expect you to roll your eyes in disbelief when I say I do, but I see no good intentions with their release. They are just another way for Nintendo to, inexpensively, drain more money off of their loyal fanbase. Nintendo, at least, could have made it less obvious by including more than one title for those prices, but I guess they took a gamble and won.
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:lol is that the best you can say? These games are already unlockable for free in other games or even in packs(Zelda).

The people these games are aimed at is for people who would like to buy these games again. There's already a large market looking at all the retro games being sold again in many forms! The NES classics are just another way of getting them and its a great step for gaming that old games can stand alongside the new games on shop shelves! :) We get this with movies and music. This is a genuine move forward unlike the Spike awards shows etc.
 
Deg said:
:lol 'PATHETIC desperation' sums up what you said perfectly.
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Either that or you completely glossed over my post :)
Deg said:
Umm no. Where's the dvd? the shape etc? It has plenty of flaws.
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So someone who hates it more than I do is accusing me of hating it?
Deg said:
:lol is that the best you can say? These games are already unlockable for free in other games or even in packs(Zelda).
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And this only aides my point!
Deg said:
The people these games are aimed at is for people who would like to buy these games again. There's already a large market looking at all the retro games being sold again in many forms! The NES classics are just another way of getting them and its a great step for gaming that old games can stand alongside the new games on shop shelves! :) We get this with movies and music. This is a genuine move forward unlike the Spike awards shows etc.
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This might have had merit if you couldn't purchase an NES along with all of those games for under $60. Hell, It only took me a week to collect the whole fucking series (along with other games) for that price. My suggesting still stands. Your last statement is hilarious.

Edit: Assumption is fun! My argument has nothing to do with GBA's sales the way you seem to think it does. Reread. Comprehend.
 
You're funny. I suggest you keep it up even when the galring figures come in. Right now GBA is doing even better than i predicted. :) Its on course to outsell outsell DS and PSP clearly ON THEIR LAUNCHES. Last time that happened was with GC and XBox. We all know what happened from then on.
 
This is the argument that always puzzles me.


"The PSP is just better. The DS has no chance."

"So Sony will lead the market?"

"Err...yes. The DS has no chance."

"What about the Gameboy Advance?"

"The Gameboy is last generation. Not even a competitor."

"But...it's still selling more than the consoles..."
 
Hollywood said:
Anyone got a picture comparison of DS playing a GBA game, and SP playing one. And what is the battery comparison of playing a GBA game on DS vs. the SP ... which one lasts longer?
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Taken personally.

gba_compare2.JPG

playing megaman zero and megaman zero 2
 
It's going to be hard for either the DS or PSP to top the GBA. Even if DS failed, people still would be buying GBA in droves
 
Deg said:
Like how PS2 doesnt deserve its success? Take off your fanboy goggles. It is the best system thats why it sells like one.
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Talk about a shit analogy. One came out a year before its competitors and therefore looks dated. The other is a system that is so far behind what handheld technology could be that its disgusting. If Sony can now make a PS2 equivalent handheld how long ago do you think it was possible to make at least a PS1 quality handheld? Years, probably longer than the GBA's life cycle since there were rumors of an N64-level handheld that Nintendo was keeping shelved until they had milked all of the GB and GBA sales less than a year after GBA's release. Nintendo has been content with delivering lesser hardware because they don't have any serious competiton. For the future health of the handheld industry the PSP needs to make a serious impression, otherwise Nintendo will continue turning out piece of shit systems that handheld gamers will have no choice to buy.

Sure, GBA has the games, but thats because there's no other platform to put them on for developers. It doesn't justify the decade old technology of the handheld, or Nintendo's willingness to ship them half-assed (see original GBA's shit screen and the SP's need for a headphone adapter as two excellent examples).
 
Drek said:
Talk about a shit analogy. One came out a year before its competitors and therefore looks dated. The other is a system that is so far behind what handheld technology could be that its disgusting. If Sony can now make a PS2 equivalent handheld how long ago do you think it was possible to make at least a PS1 quality handheld? Years, probably longer than the GBA's life cycle since there were rumors of an N64-level handheld that Nintendo was keeping shelved until they had milked all of the GB and GBA sales less than a year after GBA's release. Nintendo has been content with delivering lesser hardware because they don't have any serious competiton. For the future health of the handheld industry the PSP needs to make a serious impression, otherwise Nintendo will continue turning out piece of shit systems that handheld gamers will have no choice to buy.

Sure, GBA has the games, but thats because there's no other platform to put them on for developers. It doesn't justify the decade old technology of the handheld, or Nintendo's willingness to ship them half-assed (see original GBA's shit screen and the SP's need for a headphone adapter as two excellent examples).
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Deg, I wasn't arguing about sales. This was my point all along. And it was in regards to the same retarded fanboy analogy that made me post in this dick measuring sales thread, too :b
 
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