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Gamespot - Best platform of E3 is DS

SantaC

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I just watched last E3 live by gamespot, and Greg Kasavin said DS had the best platform showing at E3, and the GS crew agreed with him. Most surprising game according to Kasavin was Killzone 2 because it blew him away. One of the GS crew also commented on PD0, it was playable behind closed doors and the multiplayer part impressed him. GS also said that it was a minimum of 2 hour line to Zelda and how everybody rushed to that game when E3 opened.
 
It definitely was the system of the show. I had no interest in the DS before the show.. but there were just an absolute shitload of great titles on display for it while the PSP had more or less nothing. Who wants to buy mine? (PSP)
 
I don't really get why PSP didn't have a stronger showing Is Sony getting to overconfident and think the system will sell itself even without games?
 
I agree and that says more how about how fucking pathetic this E3 showing was than how good the DS lineup is.
 
AniHawk said:
Did anyone try out that lawyer game? Was it playable?

How about the Metroid Pinball, or Hunters?
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Gamespot tried the lawyer game, and seemed to think it was cool. They also talked alot about Trauma under the knife.(that surgery game)
 
SantaCruZer said:
I don't really get why PSP didn't have a stronger showing Is Sony getting to overconfident and think the system will sell itself even without games?
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Seems to be working well for them so far.
 
Bebpo said:
I agree and that says more how about how fucking pathetic this E3 showing was than how good the DS lineup is.
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Well, the DS did have a tremendous showing, but any other year it wouldn't have been close to being the best platform of the show, so I'd agree that this E3 was lacking.

PSP, XBox, PS2, & GC (other than Zelda), just had nothing to capture our imagination and certainly no surprises. All of this, is great news for Microsoft as they happen to have a system coming out this year that will benefit from a down year on the current generation consoles.
 
SantaCruZer said:
I don't really get why PSP didn't have a stronger showing Is Sony getting to overconfident and think the system will sell itself even without games?
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I remember reading that the PSP and the PS2 was going to be the focus of this gen. Then their E3 conference reflected none of that, then E3 starts, it seems lackluster. I'm only paying attention to Square this year on the PS2. Others say this is going to be their best year. You would think that they would highlight that PS2 more. I guess they feel they didn't have to. The PSP could have used some highlights as well.
 
SantaCruZer said:
I don't really get why PSP didn't have a stronger showing Is Sony getting to overconfident and think the system will sell itself even without games?
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Moreso, than Microsoft's uneven Xbox360 showing, this was the biggest question of the show. What happened to the PSP? It seems we are doomed to quick bucks ports of PS2 games that add little features that are intended to make us believe they tailored it to the system.

The platform is way better than this, but it looks like getting caught between generations as developers are starting to lay out serious resources for next gen is going to hurt the PSP pretty badly.
 
Common sense. PSP is like a handheld console. It's expensive to develop for, and requires manpower. With PS2 doing so well right now, who is going to divert resources just to make exclusive PSP games? It's easier to make PS2/Xbox/GC games, and just port them later to earn quick cash.
 
sonycowboy said:
Moreso, than Microsoft's uneven Xbox360 showing, this was the biggest question of the show. What happened to the PSP? It seems we are doomed to quick bucks ports of PS2 games that add little features that are intended to make us believe they tailored it to the system.

The platform is way better than this, but it looks like getting caught between generations as developers are starting to lay out serious resources for next gen is going to hurt the PSP pretty badly.
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sonycowboy said:
Well, the DS did have a tremendous showing, but any other year it wouldn't have been close to being the best platform of the show, so I'd agree that this E3 was lacking.

PSP, XBox, PS2, & GC (other than Zelda), just had nothing to capture our imagination and certainly no surprises. All of this, is great news for Microsoft as they happen to have a system coming out this year that will benefit from a down year on the current generation consoles.
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The DS had a strong showing of fun games sure. But the games were basically the usual (new castlevania, new mario kart, new advanced wars, new sonic). I had a good time at the both and am looking forward to buying most of these, but c'mon a set of traditional sequels on a handheld should not be the best thing at a trade show especially when there is a brand new next-gen console.

On an aside, PS2 probably had the best content on the floor but there was very very little new. Most of the games had been shown at TGS once already and some of them were even on their 2nd E3 showing. You do gotta wonder though what's happening in the PS2 camp since PS3 isn't hitting for another year+ yet were not getting new 2006 games announced. Wanda/Genji/Okami/Ratchet4 are all 2005 titles so what will we be playing for the first 6-9 months of 2006? :\
 
Yeah, it did have a decent showing...but there still just isn't enough to draw me in.

Castlevania is the one game I REALLY want, but if I DO purchase a DS, I'd probably also enjoy Mario, Sonic Rush, Phoenix Wright, Nanostray, Lost in Blue, and Kirby. That's 7 titles total right there and I'm sure more will show up down the road.

PSP really did disappoint me, though. I love the machine, but the E3 lineup should have been much stronger. Out of the E3 list, I'm interested in Burnout Legends, GTA, Infected, Coded Arms, MediEvil, GG Judgement, Daxter, Acid 2, Virtua Tennis, Ys VI, Lemmings, Pursuit Force, Crisis Core (not that anything was shown), Death Jr., Sonic, PoPoLoCrois (MAYBE...)and a couple others. I guess that's a pretty decent list, but I think my disappointment stems from the lack of new announcements. I was expecting most of those prior to E3. Then again, outside of Mario for DS, there was nothing new that I want on DS either.

I think that's where most of my disappointment comes from. There was very little introduced and I really didn't need anymore info on those other games.

On a side note, the two systems had an equal number of games at the show. According to GameSpot, they both had roughly 70 games present (with PSP taking the lead by 2 titles).

PS2 is pretty loaded, though. GC is basically dead to me (only one game left) and XBOX is almost there as well (which makes sense, considering the 360 launch). Not much on the PC side either...
 
sonycowboy said:
Moreso, than Microsoft's uneven Xbox360 showing, this was the biggest question of the show. What happened to the PSP? It seems we are doomed to quick bucks ports of PS2 games that add little features that are intended to make us believe they tailored it to the system.

The platform is way better than this, but it looks like getting caught between generations as developers are starting to lay out serious resources for next gen is going to hurt the PSP pretty badly.
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Yes but does originality really matter to handheld gamers? Is the portablity of quality games, say the new Viewtiful Joe fighter on GC and PSP, enough to sell them?
 
There was also the question of lowered expectations... the overall outlook for the DS was less than optimistic - especially around here. Someone even went as far as to say the DS is "stillborn" in North America (I forget who). If I told you last week the DS would have a better E3 than the PSP, I'd have been mocked and probably banned. :D
 
Well, in the psp's defense, the games cost more to make and there is no evidence that the games will sell much more than DS games. So it is a big cost issue for publishers and hence why some maybe hesitant to fund games for it.
 
I agree. I was very much impressed with the DS's lineup and Nintendo further solidified my $150 purchase with a slew of titles like Super Mario Bros., Mario and Luigi 2, Mario Kart DS, DS Wars, Animal Crossing and Metroid Prime Hunters.

Third parties really suprised me. Capcom had Viewtiful Joe DS which looks awesome. Konami had Lost in Blue(underrated) and of course Castlevania. Sega had Sonic Rush, which looks like it could bring the Sonic franchise on its feet in terms of quality.

Great showing by DS and next to Zelda, Super Mario Bros. was my favorite game at E3.
 
Sounds about right. I really wanted to see great things from the PSP as the hardware (screen most of all) is excellent. In the end though, DS seems to be where the games are going. How much support is Sony giving to PSP developers?
 
CabbageRed said:
Sounds about right. I really wanted to see great things from the PSP as the hardware (screen most of all) is excellent. In the end though, DS seems to be where the games are going. How much support is Sony giving to PSP developers?
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As noted above, from a pure numbers standpoint, the DS and PSP both had ~70 games at the show...
 
I think we can safely say, that this is the strangest E3 ever.

The ebbs and flows of this show were one for the ages.

The Sony PC - Sony's #1
The Microsoft PC - Microsoft's Dead
The Nintendo PC - Nintendo's not even playing
The Sony "Render"/"Realtime" debate - Sony lies!!! It's real, it's not, it's real! It's not!
The Xbox360 rebirth - Gears of War & Perfect Dark Zero are Aces!!
The PS3 / Xbox360 spec wars!!
 
If you also include Metroid Dread, Tetris DS, the countless Square Enix games in development...

My problem: I expected more new announcements for both handhelds, and I got burned. I thought PSP and DS would have more unique content at this E3. I'm excited about Lost in Blue, but we've known about it for months. Where's the new Vandal Hearts? Square Enix didn't even have Egg Monster Hero on the floor, which is hugely discouraging. I'm happy that I like them both, but I could definitely ask for more.
 
CabbageRed said:
Sorry, I should have said games I'm more interested in.
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Yeah, that's a bit more accurate. Both systems have good lineups, but the PSP brought very few suprises (which is what made the showing a disappointment).
 
I wonder what Sony's strategy with PSP is going to be this holiday season. DS has a surprisingly strong line-up while the PSP is only 50 bucks cheaper than the Xbox 360. If PSP hasn't been crushing the DS so far, I wonder how Sony hopes to compete over the holidays. I guess portable GTA should be big. Does anyone know if Gran Turismo mobile is going to launch before Christmas?
 
Shaheed79 said:
To aggrivate you.
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It didn't actually aggravate me so much as it destroyed any potential credibility that poster may have (in my eyes). Between the poor grammar, typos, general stupidity and the "gamefaqs style" sensibility of the statement, I feel as if that poster is only detracting from the GAF. Waste of bandwidth and time. See how I've just wasted time posting this response on account of that post?

Perhaps it DID aggravate me after all (in a different fashion)... :P
 
Eh, I disagree with the "PSP had a disappointing showing" thing. There was tons of PSP stuff -- the problem was that it was dispersed all over the place, with each publisher showing a couple of PSP games lost among the honking big plasma screens showing their console games.

Mostly, Sony is to blame. They didn't really have a dedicated PSP area other than a tiny upstairs space with a bunch of pods where you couldn't even see what people were playing. Whereas Nintendo packed about 500 DS stations into a compact, overcrowded space and constantly had DS contests and whatnot running. Basically, Sony totally blew it on the optics.
 
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