Gates to Yamauchi: If you let us buy Nintento, we will do it

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Microsoft hat Interesse an der Übernahme von Nintendo

Die Softwareschmiede Microsoft will im Markt für Spielekonsolen offenbar nicht nur auf die eigene XBox setzen. Konzerngründer Bill Gates äußerte Interesse an der Übernahme von Nintendo. "Wenn Hiroshi Yamauchi mich anruft, kriegt er mich sofort an die Strippe", erklärte Gates am Rande einer Analystenkonferenz in den USA gegenüber der Wirtschaftswoche. Gates sagte weiterhin, er würde umgehend ein Angebot abgeben, sofern Verkaufsbereitschaft bestehe. Nintendo gehört mehrheitlich dem japanischen Milliardär Yamauchi. Microsofts Interesse dürfte dabei insbesondere den erfolgreichen Spiele-Charakteren gelten, mit denen Nintendo aufwarten kann.

(tol/c't)
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http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/49761

Basicaly he told to Weltwoche that if Nintendo would let MS buy their company, MS would immediatly do it. I hope Yamauchi will not let that happen.

Fredi
 
"They tried, but kamisama told them do something where the sun dosnt shine"

does Kamisama speaks for all the shareholders?
 
Well duh!

No (videogame) company in the world has the brand power over so many different games as Nintendo do. MS would be idiots not to want them.
 
There's no way this is even a possibility. Nintendo seems to have way too much pride to just be bought out. Not that its really surprising or anything, i'm sure Sony wouldn't mind buying Nintendo either.
 
McFly said:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/49761

Basicaly he told to Weltwoche that if Nintendo would let MS buy their company, MS would immediatly do it. I hope Yamauchi will not let that happen.

Fredi
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No.

Hell no.

About the only way I'd ever want to see this happen is if it ends like the first Matrix flick, with Gates absorbing Yamauchi only to have the old bastard sear his way out of Bill's body, destroying him in a massive shower of hanafuda cards. :p
 
DCharlie said:
"They tried, but kamisama told them do something where the sun dosnt shine"

does Kamisama speaks for all the shareholders?
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Nope, but the majority shareholder is by far Yamauchi. Nintendo regularly buys it's stock back to prevent the kind of hostile takeover scenerio you're suggesting, actually :)
 
Ok, first MS says that the next-gen war is between them and Sony, not taking Nintendo seriously at all, but they want to buy Nintendo? I'm confused :confused:
 
GIR said:
Ok, first MS says that the next-gen war is between them and Sony, not taking Nintendo seriously at all, but they want to buy Nintendo? I'm confused :confused:
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If your 1st party games sold like MS' (outside of HALO) does you'd want to buy a companies games that sell well too.
 
Didn`t Nintendo buy back half of their shares to prevent hostile take overs in the future? Nintendo is even more cocky and arrogant than the fanbase. As the saying goes we`d rather see Nintendo go down in flames than sellout out to MS or end up in disgrace like Sega :P

I think this news is old btw
 
SolidSnakex said:
There's no way this is even a possibility. Nintendo seems to have way too much pride to just be bought out. Not that its really surprising or anything, i'm sure Sony wouldn't mind buying Nintendo either.
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hahahah once you are a public company there isn't much you can do to stop being bought.. You should look into who holds there stocks... a large chunk of them are American investors. MS is just seeing if there is a civil way to buy them...instead of making it into a hostile takeover... but saying there is no way that can happen is just flat out wrong
 
How recent is that anyway?

Whatever the case, I hope Nintendo doesn't sell too. I like MS, and my XBox but it just wouldn't be the same if Nintendo wasn't independant :(.
 
Actually, if the majority shareholder of your company (in this case Yamauchi) holds 51 percent of available stocks (all you need really) and in Nintendo's case, a large portion of stock is held by other company officials (remember the Nintendo internal buying spree from when the share price was dropping?), you're pretty much bulletproof and safe. Gates could buy up all the rest and he would still be a minority shareholder.

ie, there is no way Microsoft could buy Nintendo, not even through a hostile takeover (because the stock positioning makes it impossible)
 
HMM... Xenon as a MS/Nintendo joint console could still come to fruition, but a huge long shot.

I'm not a big fan of Nintendo games anymore, but you can't deny their large appeal among the masses.
 
old. So old. MS tried to buy Nintendo before Xbox was a conception. Christ, just the name Yamauchi should have clued most of you in.
 
Didn't we already know this from that book..."insidexboxprojectmidwaywhatever" ?
I think i also remember reading that most nintendo employees were quite happy about it but yamauchi himself didn't let it happen.
Or was it Yamauchi ? I mean, that old guy starring in most photoshop contests as one of the most successful Umbrella's creations...didn't he retire ?
 
I wonder where things would stand today if Microsoft would have been allowed to buy Nintendo,wow. Microsoft have been aggressive as hell pushing the Xbox into the market, and Imagine Nintendo franchises backing them today...whew.

Oh look,theres a pokemon next to an elite,shoot the little bastard :b
 
SolidSnakex said:
There's no way this is even a possibility. Nintendo seems to have way too much pride to just be bought out. Not that its really surprising or anything, i'm sure Sony wouldn't mind buying Nintendo either.
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When Yamauchi was on charge of the company I would have agreed with you...Now I believe whatever happens.

Nintendo without Yamauchi = NOTHING
 
Lost Weekend said:
Actually if the majority shareholder of your company (in this case Yamauchi) holds 51 percent of available stocks (all you need really) and in Nintendo's case, a large portion of stock is held by other company officials (remember the Nintendo internal buying spree from when the share price was dropping?), you're pretty much bulletproof and safe. Gates could buy up all the rest and he would still be a minority shareholder.

ie, there is no way Microsoft could buy Nintendo, not even through a hostile takeover (because the stock positioning makes it impossible)
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A majority Shareholder doesn't need to be 51% They just own the most shares of the company.. 40% can be a majority shareholder if the rest of shares are owned by different sources....
 
What I am saying is that Yamauchi owns the largest singular concentration of shares in the company (i.e. he is the majority shareholder) I used the 51 percent thing because it's easier to illustrate it that way. Nintendo recently did a big stock buyback, so the shares that are floating out there are not enough to undermind Yamauchi's stake in Nintendo.
 
Lost Weekend said:
What I am saying is that Yamauchi owns the largest singular concentration of shares in the company (i.e. he is the majority shareholder) I used the 51 percent thing because it's easier to illustrate it that way. Nintendo recently did a big stock buyback, so the shares that are floating out there are not enough to undermind Yamauchi's stake in Nintendo.
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Well until we know where the shares are at we can't say what can happen... I don't know who owns what I just have heard that it is possible...
 
Blackace said:
A majority Shareholder doesn't need to be 51% They just own the most shares of the company.. 40% can be a majority shareholder if the rest of shares are owned by different sources....
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Im gonna go out on a limb and say Nintendo is their own biggest share holder... wasnt that long ago that Nintendo bought shares back to protect themselves from hostile takeover, also im pretty sure that Yamauchi owns a large portion of stock himself...
 
If it was possible it would have been done a long time ago. Nintendo's market price is only around 13 billion dollars, and we've known for a long time that Gates wants the company. We know for a fact that Yamauchi is the majority stock holder too. Or at least I've seen it mentioned in various interviews and financials over the years. If it were as simple as a buyback, gates could have doubled the asking price (if he really wanted it) to various share holders when the price was slipping, and he could have also bought any outstanding shares. He didn't (and like I said, Nintendo bought back alot of those shares so they could pretect themselves under such a situation)

If they weren't bulletproof before, they certainly were after the buyback. If Gates could have, he would have :)
 
SolidSnakex said:
There's no way this is even a possibility. Nintendo seems to have way too much pride to just be bought out. Not that its really surprising or anything, i'm sure Sony wouldn't mind buying Nintendo either.
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Sony couldn't afford Nintendo... but Microsoft actually could. Scary. :/


I'm still hoping for that Nintendo/Bandai merger though....
 
It would be difficult to get Nintendo. Yamauchi may not be directly running the show, but he still owns a significant portion of the company and still influences some of their decisions (NDS for example). The guy has spent the last few decades making Nintendo a self-sufficient entity because he wants to avoid this type of thing. Nintendo keeps a huge cash reserve because Yamauchi wants to avoid having to go for help when the company falls on hard times.

I think it's safe to say that Yamauchi would have to be six feet under before MS even has a chance. If MS could do a hostile takeover, why haven't they yet? Nintendo themselves would have been a far better acquistion than Rare.
 
ge-man said:
It would be difficult to get Nintendo. Yamauchi may not be directly running the show, but he still owns a significant portion of the company and still influences some of their decisions (NDS for example). The guy has spent the last few decades making Nintendo a self-sufficient entity because he wants to avoid this type of thing. Nintendo keeps a huge cash reserve because Yamauchi wants to avoid having to go for help when the company falls on hard times.

I think it's safe to say that Yamauchi would have to be six feet under before MS even has a chance. If MS could do a hostile takeover, why haven't they yet? Nintendo themselves would have been a far better acquistion than Rare.
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Is that huge cash reserve such a good thing? who gets that if Nintendo was bought? cuts their price in half...
 
jarrod said:
I'm still hoping for that Nintendo/Bandai merger though....
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I wonder if that will happen? The Bandai people seem pleased enough with Nintendo and Nintendo has continuely maintained that at their core they are a toy company. It would be a huge move going into the next generation.
 
Blackace said:
Is that huge cash reserve such a good thing? who gets that if Nintendo was bought? cuts their price in half...
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I have no idea. All I know is that Nintendo isn't too keen on being acquired or having to deal companies outside their sphere of influence.
 
The software giant Microsoft does not obviously only want to set in the market for play consoles on the own XBox.

Company founder Bill Gates expressed interest in the assumption of Nintendo. "if Hiroshi Yamauchi me calls, kriegt it me to strips immediately", a vowed gates at the edge of a conference of analyst in the USA in relation to the restaurant week. Further, he said gates immediately an offer would deliver, if sales readiness exists. Nintendo belongs by the majority to the Japanese billionaire Yamauchi. Microsofts interest might apply thereby in particular for the successful play characters, which Nintendo can offer (tol/c't)
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Basically Bill Gates is interested in buying Nintendo and would respond instantly if possible. Whether Nintendo will be able to be brought out is another matter. Sounds like Gates is dissapointed in the existing Xbox management and buying Nintendo would be much more benficial.
 
Deg said:
Basically Bill Gates is interested in buying Nintendo and would respond instantly if possible. Whether Nintendo will be able to be brought out is another matter. Sounds like Gates is dissapointed in the existing Xbox management.
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It's called... Nintendo and MS are at 2 entirely different ends of the spectrum. Seperated... 1 holds a decent chance of nailing sony and the other holds a much more remote chance. But together, they could become an absolute monster.
 
open_mouth_ said:
Gates to Yamauchi: Yamauchi San, let me touch you.
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precisely. It would make things alot easier for MS. I dont think Yamauchi is that involved nowadays.
 
DopeyFish said:
It's called... Nintendo and MS are at 2 entirely different ends of the spectrum. Seperated... 1 holds a decent chance of nailing sony and the other holds a much more remote chance. But together, they could become an absolute monster.
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It's all very interesting. Makes for a nice soap opera. Expanding on what dopey said.

1) They are not competing currently. Their markets are almost completely seperate

2) They are both going to be very similar hardware next gen with the PowerPC

3) Neither has a chance at knocking off Sony next gen

4) They're both in Redmond
 
jedimike said:
old. So old. MS tried to buy Nintendo before Xbox was a conception. Christ, just the name Yamauchi should have clued most of you in.
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I think this story appeared first in the book "opening the xbox" two years ago. Maybe someone from "Wirtschaftswoche" has read it :)
 
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