I think the point was, you can have a majority at 10%, but you are vulnerable because it is possible for somebody to buy more shares and surpase your 10%. But if you have 51%, I think its pretty safe to say you are secure as the largest stock holder. But who knows.. my math is really bad.
Gates to Yamauchi: If you let us buy Nintento, we will do it
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Buggy Loop
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Nintendo is pretty much bulletproof since they bought back their shares in 2002-2003, it was like what, 4.2 billions in two shots? If not more.
Why do you think he says they'll buy them if they let it happen? Cause they cant make an hostile takeover on nintendo.
Why do you think he says they'll buy them if they let it happen? Cause they cant make an hostile takeover on nintendo.
But in theory too, Microsoft with it's building portfolio of game IPs + Rare IPs and then you smack in Nintendo IPs... it can get very crowded for 3rd party titles...
So when you had a lot of excellent Xbox only 3rd party titles this gen, if Nintendo + MS would occur, you might see them either go back to PC and/or PS2 development because Sony's 1st party portfolio wouldn't be anywhere near flourished as the MS/N one.
The majority of motives between the 2 companies could mesh very well too. Microsoft going towards mainstream connectivity, Nintendo going for peer to peer connectivity. Microsoft has good western 3rd party support, Nintendo has decent asian 3rd party support (though this *could* change because the combined effort would guarantee to be a worldwide seller)
So when you had a lot of excellent Xbox only 3rd party titles this gen, if Nintendo + MS would occur, you might see them either go back to PC and/or PS2 development because Sony's 1st party portfolio wouldn't be anywhere near flourished as the MS/N one.
The majority of motives between the 2 companies could mesh very well too. Microsoft going towards mainstream connectivity, Nintendo going for peer to peer connectivity. Microsoft has good western 3rd party support, Nintendo has decent asian 3rd party support (though this *could* change because the combined effort would guarantee to be a worldwide seller)
Nintendo wouldn't, just on principle. They have too much money for Microsoft to do it easily, Microsoft has learned from Rare that buying IPs is one thing, buying talent is another, and if there's one American company that Nintendo should get in bed with, it isn't Microsoft.
(Ready?)
It's Apple.
Now, when you're done laughing, just think about it for a moment. The two of them have a lot in common. Nintendo's raw talent in partnership with a company that has the best industrial design this side of Sony, plus the hardware balls to back it up, would fucking own everything.
(Ready?)
It's Apple.
Now, when you're done laughing, just think about it for a moment. The two of them have a lot in common. Nintendo's raw talent in partnership with a company that has the best industrial design this side of Sony, plus the hardware balls to back it up, would fucking own everything.
This *seems* new, because I've never heard a Gates comment on the matter. In that Xbox book with the original saga, iirc, it was mostly Nintendo execs talking about it, with possibly no comment from the Microsoft side (presumably because it was a failed bid on Microsoft's part). We need some clarification on this...when did Gates make this comment?
The reference to Yamauchi doesn't necessarily imply that his comments were from pre-Xbox days, or refer to pre-Xbox days - Yamauchi is still one of the biggest shareholders in the company, and moreover, still holds massive influence within the company. If he objected to any takeover, I'm sure it would generate some qualms amongst the current Nintendo management, and other big shareholders. His approval is effectively necessary, even if not technically necessary (i would think).
The reference to Yamauchi doesn't necessarily imply that his comments were from pre-Xbox days, or refer to pre-Xbox days - Yamauchi is still one of the biggest shareholders in the company, and moreover, still holds massive influence within the company. If he objected to any takeover, I'm sure it would generate some qualms amongst the current Nintendo management, and other big shareholders. His approval is effectively necessary, even if not technically necessary (i would think).
sonycowboy
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DopeyFish said:
Microsoft only has one established big name franchise ,Halo. The others might be excellent games, but sales don't reflect that. I'll give you that if you add MS + N > Sony, but only because N > Sony.
1st party. N > Sony * 2 . Sony > Microsoft * 10
sonycowboy
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Deku Tree said:
Obviously, you've never heard of Pippen
They also have OpenGL as the foundation for their OS and include Nvidia or ATI graphics card with every system sold for the past 3-4 years. They're getting PC ports much quicker and with greater regularity than at any time in the past. In fact, a good number of the games are simultaneous releases.
However, they're still a pretty insignificant factor in the market.
DonasaurusRex
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what is nintendo's stock symbol? As far as I knew it wasn't even public traded on the market but privately owned.
MaddenNFL64
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It's traded in Japan, as i've seen many articles referring to thier stock dropping or rising % wise.
CrimsonSkies
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"There's no way this is even a possibility. Nintendo seems to have way too much pride to just be bought out. Not that its really surprising or anything, i'm sure Sony wouldn't mind buying Nintendo either."
Sony doens't have the liquid cash flow to purchase something as big as Nintendo.
Sony doens't have the liquid cash flow to purchase something as big as Nintendo.
MaddenNFL64
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You think maybe sometimes both companies send an intern, or maybe even a drunk exec to take a dump on eachothers parking lots?
Just a wierd, disturbing thought
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Just a wierd, disturbing thought
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Late Stage Marxist
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Joint console would rock. Anything to see Sony die.
norinrad21
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trippingmartian said:Joint console would rock. Anything to see Sony die.
http://www.madhunt.1hwy.com/images/evil_clown.jpg
Templar Wizard
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jeez, fanbois and their rantings.
ask yourselves this question:
do you care what system the next-gen Zelda or Mario or other stock nintendo brand comes out on?
do you really care??????
and think on this: nintendo are a company, a bidness. money talks. fuck the fans. you will all buy their games regardless of what system.
ask yourselves this question:
do you care what system the next-gen Zelda or Mario or other stock nintendo brand comes out on?
do you really care??????
and think on this: nintendo are a company, a bidness. money talks. fuck the fans. you will all buy their games regardless of what system.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Templar Wizard said:
Ok everyone stop talking about stuff now... because as Templar pointed out, "who cares?"... God man I think talking about the gaming industry is what people were doing in this thread... I have not seen many fanboy outburst... expect from you... so just let people enjoy this in their one harmless thread...
norinrad21
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Templar Wizard said:
YES I DO
MaddenNFL64
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I don't really care what console I play Nintendo games on.
But it has to be a Nintendo console.
But it has to be a Nintendo console.
For the doubters, this is absolutely not old, but very recent. I've uploaded a pdf of the Wirtschaftswoche pages where the tidbit is presented: http://www.adretis.de/misc/ms-nintendo1.pdf
Late Stage Marxist
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I would want Nintendo to have a big part in the hardware design, if only superficially.
sonycowboy
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trippingmartian said:
For some reason this made me laugh. A big superficial part. LOL! Exqueese me, baking soda?
Late Stage Marxist
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Well, obviously Microsoft has already demonstrated that their hardware is far more capable this generation, but the Xbox is fugly.sonycowboy said:
CrimsonSkies said:
Sony is in a tight economic crunch. They are cash poor, relatively.
I would expect Nintendo to merge with other software houses before being bought out. Think of the leverage a Nintendo/SquareEnix merger would have. Or a Nintendo/Capcom/Namco merger. They could be even be a third party, console-wise and make Sony or MS give them the sweetest royalty deal ever, forever. Similar to what the Big N makes on their own hardware: 50-75% profit.
Late Stage Marxist
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I had to buy the PlayStation for 3 games. One of which turned out to be shit (FFVIII). Fuck Sony. Right in the ear!xsarien said:
Late Stage Marxist
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I wasn't aware that their designs went public....jarrod said:
Late Stage Marxist
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What is your point?xsarien said:
MaddenNFL64
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Wow, CNN's game guy has his shit together.
TheGreenGiant
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reeks of MS desperation. They know they can't get anyone onboard for Xenon :runsaway:
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