German President resigns
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Good on you guys!
DarK SouL said:
The Chancellor is in charge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancellor_of_Germany_(Federal_Republic_of_Germany)
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Xeke said:
The Chancellor is the Prime Minister. Nothing strange or redundant, it's the standard european system with a president and a prime minister.
the_painted_bird
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wait... wut?
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US MUST LAUNCH A PREEMPTIVE STRIKE.
NAOW.
NAOW.
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David Hasselhoff should replace him.
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+1 for obscure (sadly) Historical Reference.Xeke said:
Yeah, the Ceremonial President position is really common in Europe.
In Russia it was the reverse, well until Vladimir Putin became PM and Medved became President. :lol
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Yenrot said:
Warum?
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The german president has to sign every law when he objects to give his signature the law will not pass. Its the still the highest state position in germany.Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
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Germany won the Eurovision, his work here is done.
No, it has to do with that. In the Weimar Republic (the first German democracy) too much power was focused on the president, which made a dictatorship possible (that was already a problem for the German democracy several years before Hitler became the chancellor, but that's a long story) - in order not to repeat the mistakes of Weimar's constitution, the founding fathers of the "modern" Germany paid much attention to the role of the president.SoulPlaya said:
It has different reasons in the rest of Europe, but in Germany the reasons really are mostly historical.
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whytemyke said:
Sounds like Germany is in good hands
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When Hitler was Germany's Fuhrer , there was a president . Hindenburg IIRC .kamorra said:
edit : actually Hindenburg died in 1934 ...
thegodsend
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he needs to sign off every law that is made by the government thus he is in theory the most important man in the state, but he is not part of the actual government and daily business.
most of the time he will sign off everything but he still can deny to sign off laws and then the government has to change it.
most of the time he will sign off everything but he still can deny to sign off laws and then the government has to change it.
thegodsend said:
Does that ever happen? Or would that be like the Queen of England installing a new PM, the GG of Canada dissolving parliament,? A lot of these ceremonial roles and duties they just do whatever they're told, and if they go against the grain they can be booted.
The President in Germany isn't even elected.
It's crazy when your president just ups and bails... Things must be getting serious in this world... real real serious. When your leader just says hey guys, "I'm taking my ball and going home," it makes you really curious as to what's going on behind the scenes.
I have a feeling that war is almost a necessity. When things start getting too sticky, nothing like a nice, spanking, brand-new war to take our minds off of things.
I have a feeling that war is almost a necessity. When things start getting too sticky, nothing like a nice, spanking, brand-new war to take our minds off of things.
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the president is elected by members of all parties and chosen people from the counties (but the party who got more votes at the last election also has more people for the chamber that elects the president). it's a bit complicated, but it's an indirect election based on the strength of the parties in the different counties and the government itself.
I think Köhler once didn't sign a law that already passed the government constitutions (like the senat in the US) but it doesn't happen very often.
and by the way, I think he is an idiot for resigning just because he feels he doesn't need to be critized for statements that can be interpreted as against the German constitution. I just hope the next president will be a better one. it's kind of the job of the president to guide the nation, to set goals for the society and give a path the government and society need to look up to (for issues like poverty, immigration, like all the big topics that form a society, not so much who should pay how much taxes).
I think Köhler once didn't sign a law that already passed the government constitutions (like the senat in the US) but it doesn't happen very often.
and by the way, I think he is an idiot for resigning just because he feels he doesn't need to be critized for statements that can be interpreted as against the German constitution. I just hope the next president will be a better one. it's kind of the job of the president to guide the nation, to set goals for the society and give a path the government and society need to look up to (for issues like poverty, immigration, like all the big topics that form a society, not so much who should pay how much taxes).
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Sol.. said:
:lol :lol :lol
Dave Chappelle greatness!
Dr.Acula said:
It does. The Bundespräsident can (and must) refuse to sign any law that he considers to be unconstitutional either in substantive law or the formal procedures of the law´s passing. The Bundesverfassungsgericht (the court overseeing the protection of our constitution) then has to decide and will either rule the law unconstitutional or not, then he can be forced to sign it into law. Köhler actually did this a few times, something not every Bundespräsident has done.
The Bundespräsident is elected, just not by the German public. Our Bundestag (parliament) members and representatives of the different Bundesländer, i.e "states" vote for the different candidates. They´re not bund by party affiliation and last time people that were nominated by a party with their own candidate voted for Köhler.
Overall this position is a joke and mostly a waste of taxpayer money, but after Hitler it´s better to be safe than sorry and this extra check on the legislative process comes in handy from time to time.
kevm3 said:
The fuck?
I hope you´re not allowed to vote.
Shiggy said:
no idea but its funny - 14.000 follow him on twitter but he follows 0 :lol
http://twitter.com/Der_Fuehrer/
yeah this is pretty controversial actuallyBinabik15 said:
well the point is that the president has no other political power then the "respect" that is given to him. so with that respect gone i can see why he wanted to bail out of his position personally.thegodsend said:
Ofcourse i dont think that it was a good decision or anything but on a personal level i see from where he is comming.
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