Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
We all know that the real crime would be danganronpa v3 barely making it to the top 10.
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Barely as in barely too much or barely too little?
...I just want them to talk about it at least a little bit in the Music and/or Style categories. I'm excited to finally jump into that game after 8 months of expertly dodging spoilers.
I totally got spoiled on some stuff.
Yeah, maybe the "Finally a Sonic game that doesn't suck according to Sonic fans" Award.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Automata's a game I liked, but I wish I liked as much as everyone else that talks about it does. It's good, it just doesn't quite hit all the marks for me in its execution.
The final ending is cool, but (spoilers but not really spoilers just commenting on the tone of it but y'know #spoilerculture and all that)
It did make me want to play through the original Nier though, and get more of that world, so I mean, I did have a good amount of enjoyment there! I think I've given myself enough time to decompress after finishing Automata that I could get around to playing the original soon.
The final ending is cool, but (spoilers but not really spoilers just commenting on the tone of it but y'know #spoilerculture and all that)
a bit hokey for my tastes.
It did make me want to play through the original Nier though, and get more of that world, so I mean, I did have a good amount of enjoyment there! I think I've given myself enough time to decompress after finishing Automata that I could get around to playing the original soon.
Hokey in what way? "Hokey" is a word I'd use for something that points at themes but doesn't really play with them, but NA really does. Can you clarify what you mean there?
I'm thankful I only got spoiled for the sentiment people have for a certain part (though not why or what they're reacting to or anything like that) and also one detail someone posted on here as if it wasn't a spoiler to the point that I'm not even sure it is one; I just haven't ever seen it mentioned elsewhere.
That being said it's going to take me weeks to finish it and I expect to be pretty immediately spoiled as a result. I'm sorta wondering if I should use up one of my vacation days (I really don't expect to use them up by the end of the year) and just bury myself in it on that Friday (not to avoid spoilers as much as to just have time to dig in), but I feel like I'll just not actually play a ton of it that day and will regret it.
Piston Hyundai
Member
Best Music is probably the only thing it has a serious shot at
yeah oti we got it the 250 other times you said some shit like this
whoever called you insufferable in the last thread really nailed it
Rickenslacker
Banned
The whole reversal of things during the final credits sequence where everything gets anime as all get out and structured in a way that doesn't jive with me. Hang in there! Ganbare! We're all with you! Shoot the names of the creators to rebel and fight for a good ending! Plant the seed of hope for the future! I just didn't find the way it was done to jive with me.
Okay, I'd say that's fair, but how did you take that in the face of everything that came before it?
Like, it was super anime before, but the endlessly dour anime just gave hope to a hopeful anime ending. It was all consistent in the sci-fi way that the stories worked; it was just...needlessly hopeful. I think I just jived with that part.
I don't bring my PS4 with me to college, so I was thinking of just trying to get through the entire game in a single weekend when I come down, but I've heard people say it's longer than 2 (which was longer than 1), and I want to actually enjoy it, so I'll probably just have to wait until December... couple more months! It's gonna be a nightmare dodging spoilers when it's finally out in English. Gonna mute the hell out of my Twitter feed.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I believe in alex, our one true anime editor.
He who has taken the mantle of our previous anime editor, austin
I think Ben's the only person on staff who has interest in the series.
petethepanda
Member
Just finished Night in the Woods. (I got it at launch but put it down about halfway through. I couldn't have told you why at the time, but picking it up half a year later, it's suddenly obvious that it was clawing at some recent wounds that hadn't quite scarred over. Can't think of any other times when I've realized after the fact that I subconsciously pushed myself away from a piece of media.)
I really, really liked it. Maybe loved it? Needs some time to settle, I guess. I thought the resolution to the Mystery fit pretty well and I like the type of ending it went with, but it felt a little rushed. It wasn't abrupt, but I could have done with maybe another 10 minutes of dialogue/fallout/etc. Still, it's definitely the kind of game that left me desperately hoping to find other games like it. (There have been more of those than usual this year.)
I kind of want to queue up Persona 5 as my next "picking up something I dropped earlier this year" game, 3 and 4 are two of my absolute favorites and I really want to give this one another shot, but the idea of putting another 60 hours into a game that lost me after 30 is... just a lot, lol. I guess knocking the difficulty down to easy might help a bit, but I honestly just wish I could flip a switch to yada-yada the dungeon crawling entirely.
I really, really liked it. Maybe loved it? Needs some time to settle, I guess. I thought the resolution to the Mystery fit pretty well and I like the type of ending it went with, but it felt a little rushed. It wasn't abrupt, but I could have done with maybe another 10 minutes of dialogue/fallout/etc. Still, it's definitely the kind of game that left me desperately hoping to find other games like it. (There have been more of those than usual this year.)
I kind of want to queue up Persona 5 as my next "picking up something I dropped earlier this year" game, 3 and 4 are two of my absolute favorites and I really want to give this one another shot, but the idea of putting another 60 hours into a game that lost me after 30 is... just a lot, lol. I guess knocking the difficulty down to easy might help a bit, but I honestly just wish I could flip a switch to yada-yada the dungeon crawling entirely.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Relieving, I would say, but it's really just a matter of how it was executed rather than what they were trying to do.
They can put a happy bow on it all, I don't mind schmaltzy stuff, I just found that the attack on credits was a lackluster way of doing it even with the connection to others and fantastic music playing.
I heard ~50ish hours, which means several weeks for me at best even if I dedicate time to it every night (which is super unrealistic to me). That being said I probably won't have plans that weekend (or the next?) so I might end up playing more than I expect if I focus just on it. Though I am worried about burning myself out on it particularly as I've been consecutively playing through VNs (even if I'm taking a week or two long break between routes at times) for several months as is.
Best of luck to you on spoiler dodging. I guess posting here a lot more/using Discord more leading to me using Twitter much less might be a blessing in that regard.
EDIT:
Ben or Vinny would be our best chance, and Vinny would probably feel the need to play 1+2 first (and I'd be the same way had I not already played them).
I don't think Austin's ever played them; despite not watching anime, Patrick might have been the best anime editor for this task.
So this is where I'm going to sound like the asshole, but maybe you were taking it too literally? The sense that end bit is
supposed to give off is one of general community and cohesiveness, and a slight willingness to fight back against the fatalism and dourness of the entirety of the game before it. I get that it can feel cheesy, bit it was a meta-narrative piece saying "Yeah, we all saw this shitty stuff, and can we not be that?"
It's like...super 2017. It makes me feel like some genuine hope is the counter to all the dystopian views we had in media over the last decade and oncoming dystopia we have in reality right now.
Rickenslacker
Banned
I can see that, it's just that I was trying to avoid namedropping another game here to avoid a whole other thing here but I found that Undertale hit similar marks and did it in way more personally affecting and a way that was better interwoven on a fourth wall and game level.
Guess I need to post this again since there are some people who seem to have already forgotten after 2 page. Wow, how the mind slips!
"Allegedly"
Opening admitting to sexually assaulting someone(then banning anyone who called him out for it)
Posting revenge porn with their real full names then another admin(a now jailed pedophile) printed the photos and jacked off over them and sent it to the boyfriend.
You're right, how can we even know if he's guilty or not? HMMMM
Also:
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I think the ending fits in a life goes on way. Glad you liked it though. It definitely ranks highly with me.
Yeah I also kind of tie Undertale into this idea, but for my money, the
internet integration
in a software sense
in a collective communal sense. There's something that makes it hit just a little bit harder about seeing a message someone else personalized during my credit sequence
But yeah, I get it.
Edit: Fuck, I still really need to play Night in the Woods. I bought that shit months ago and was waiting for my millenial "walking sim/CYOA game" friend to play it with me, but I fear it may be a little long for that.
Agreed, but I haven't even gotten there yet. I know it's a thing and I just haven't managed to put to time in because I kind of don't want to end it on a downer. I just kind of want to ride the feelings I have leftover for now.
Yeah, it worked for me in that way. I also think
spending a decent amount of time seeing everything in the epilogue helped and made things feel less abrupt, because there are some fantastic conversations in it
Rickenslacker
Banned
I think the existence of that is great, in how it feeds to my feelings
in that the True Ending made me never want to touch the game afterwards and just leave them to their happy ending. There's another side there, I could toy with them, I could break it all, but I won't be that person.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I actually don't really find that many similarities with undertale. You can see some but i think in the end the tone, execution and themes aren't really that similar.
I didn't go for the genocide ending at the time because of how it basically results in you never being able to revert it.
I think enough time's passed to where I'd be okay with coming back to it, though.
I'll still feel terrible doing it, though!
Rickenslacker
Banned
Yep. I just try to avoid the public consciousnesses of things in general. Make your experience yours!
Totally, like I wouldn't recommend one game by being a fan of the other at all or anything like that.
I just found that the way it touches on memories and playing around with the player were done in a way that were more resonate with me in Undertale.
The
stealth
It took my group seven hours.
December DLC has a chance to redeem it, but right now it isn't in my top 10, especially as Metroid and Ys VIII are both very good.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Oh god i need to play ys viii too don't i.
At least the first 3/4 of October has fuck all i want to play.
At least the first 3/4 of October has fuck all i want to play.
It's so good dude. I haven't had a chance to play a ton of it because Raid/Metroid, but the ~2 hours I have played are fantastic.
Yeah I feel like if gamers or the gaming media gave even half a shit about sports games this stuff would be getting absolutely assblasted right now. 2k must know they can get away with it because no one outside operation sports gives a fuck about sports games.
Like... 4 years ago (when Celceta came out) I told myself I was gonna play all the Ys games in the next year.
I played 1+2 and then stopped after that despite loving them and even that took half the year. I'll get back to them eventually because it's such an interesting series that I really do want to see more of, but I've clearly been bad about doing so. I'd just resist my bizarre inclinations and play 8 but there's more than enough that I'm playing/should get to soon as is, so... one day.
EDIT: Also "this month's mostly empty" is what I said about the last two months and I feel like I squandered that so I'm wary of thinking the same for October, hah. I'll probably get Culdcept (I really wish it hadn't been delayed) so I'll just try my best and that, V3, and Death of the Outsider will be my main focuses even if I can't make time for the other things I want to get to.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean they're all kinds standalone so i don't think you need to do all that but it's a cool series so why not.
While everyone was playing/complaining about the Destiny raid, I finally finished Stormblood and took on the first part of the Omega Raid. What a fantastic start. Really fun set of bosses and they're wrapping a really interesting story around it. Stormblood's been incredible all around, so I guess it's only fitting that the raids are the best they've made too. Can't wait for Return to Ivalice and the other 2 parts of Omega. The FFXIV team is fucking killing it right now.
I mean it's just my brain being weird mostly, and me being amused by the idea of gradually playing this big series and seeing how it progressed over the years, but I also didn't want to jump ahead to the newer ones and have it feel weird to go back to the old ones.
(I say that as if the next thing I was going to play wouldn't have been Oath or Origins, which are relatively new; for the other games wanted to play the original versions + both versions of 4 but for 3 IIRC I decided it wasn't worth it?)
(I say that as if the next thing I was going to play wouldn't have been Oath or Origins, which are relatively new; for the other games wanted to play the original versions + both versions of 4 but for 3 IIRC I decided it wasn't worth it?)
petethepanda
Member
(NitW) I definitely have a soft spot for games that wrap up by
letting you take a lap and have a final conversation with everyone
It's pretty much between Nier and NitW for my favorite soundtrack of the year, too.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I played it the exact same way and loved doing so, yeah.
I need to go back for a Gregg playthrough sometime this year since I only ever hung out with Bea but as previously noted, I'm wary of trying to find the time for that...
I'll keep it in mind again; it's been so long that I should think getting that ball rolling again for next year.
I keep looking at my PS4 and Steam libraries but can't find the motivation to start anything. I think I just need to start another game, though this break has let me catch up on a ton of anime.
UT is still a giant hole in the list of games I should play, but this is still part of the reason I haven't gone back to it after stopping very early on. Interacting with the certain portions of the UT fanbase who feel this way is still sours my impression of the game.
UT is still a giant hole in the list of games I should play, but this is still part of the reason I haven't gone back to it after stopping very early on. Interacting with the certain portions of the UT fanbase who feel this way is still sours my impression of the game.
Twin Tails
Member
that purple one is 🔥
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1434144
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1434144
You're most of the way to learning the correct lesson here: don't interact with the fanbase. Play the thing and see where it takes you. Honestly the earliest parts of it are the roughest, but eventually, if you're into weird turn-based RPGs, it will grab you and you'll know when you want to get off the ride.