chris pranger. got fired over manufactured outrage from braindead lowlives after talking very honestly and realistically about the decision to localise xenoblade chronicles x and niche jrpgs of its kind on a podcast
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chris pranger. got fired over manufactured outrage from braindead lowlives after talking very honestly and realistically about the decision to localise xenoblade chronicles x and niche jrpgs of its kind on a podcast
nckillthegrimace
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Did you listen to that podcast? He was way out of line, oversharing anecdotes that made people inside and outside the company seem stupid. Listening to it, I remember being shocked that he cleared everything with Nintendo because of what he was saying. And it turns out he didn't, so, boom, fired.
yeah, that I recall.
honestly, I think from a legalistic pov ninty was set. but the harassment campaign adds this entire spin on thing and adds like twenty dimensions to everything that's happened
Glitchesarecool
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You mean after he broke his contract and dumped over his coworkers?
Also good lord this Rapp thing is going to go places.
He most likely broke NDA's with what he said and a lot of professional lines. That was one of the more fair firings I've seen in this industry.
i fundamentally disagree, it's not an adequate reaction, at all, to what he did, and certainly would not have happened if whoever was responsible wasn't so gullible and susceptible to noise from internet babies
reprimand the guy, have a stern talk but everything else is a display of poor management that doesn't take the good work an employee has done over the years into account in any way whatsoever
his statements were water under the bridge
not saying it's even in the same ballpark with today's events in terms of bs factor, though
reprimand the guy, have a stern talk but everything else is a display of poor management that doesn't take the good work an employee has done over the years into account in any way whatsoever
his statements were water under the bridge
not saying it's even in the same ballpark with today's events in terms of bs factor, though
Greg Miller is doing this FFXV thing? I really don't like this trend of people building up audiences as some sort of trustworthy video game fan site and then taking a bunch of corporate gigs.
You don't talk about your job in a public forum without permission. Ever. That was a fair and fire-able offense.
You don't talk about your job in a public forum without permission. Ever. That was a fair and fire-able offense.
BreezyLimbo
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I would prefer if they hired my favorite gaming personality, Jeff Gerstmann to do this.
I assuming this is a joke, but since the internet is bad with sarcasm, I will say how awful this idea is.
If you make your money giving thoughts and opinions on things, you shouldn't be taking PR gigs on the side.
Yes, Jeff of all people presenting a Final Fantasy game. That would probably be amazing.
i think you can get away with about two shill events tops before you've burned your real-ness cred
well, i think you can shift between jobs, but you can't do both at once
well, i think you can shift between jobs, but you can't do both at once
stump sock
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trust me, there is a HUGE gap between how american companies handle employment vs europe, speaking as someone who has worked for companies with overseas branches.
"water under the bridge" doesn't really exist in american corporate culture, at least not in at-will employment states
fire the dude, get someone cheaper or more willing to toe the line. history don't mean shit
nckillthegrimace
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If I'm remembering correctly, he had actually done it before and been warned about it.
it's even more depressing, then, seeing people buy into these inhumane corporate practices
congrats on being ruthless, i guess. let's hope it's never your ass on the line
That's what I meant by 'on the side'. You can't do them at the same time.
God this event is contrived and awful. Greg Miller is going to become the Chris Hardwick of video games.
He was a low-level nobody talking publicly like an exec - he left them no choice. I know that sounds harsh, but damn that interview displayed a massive lack of judgement.
A story I read somewhere summarised it well - this was a warning, just not to him but everyone else at the company.
Even if they're not actually reviewing games, it's still weird. Gamespot did this stuff with Chris Watters, realised it was a bad look when he would then be seen with their editors, so they took him out of editorial entirely.
funkystudent
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I dont know what SE wanted with the tone of this FF15 show.
It started off grand and triumphant and then went into Nickelodeon Kids choice awards levels of presentation. I am half expecting someone to get slimed by the end of this
It started off grand and triumphant and then went into Nickelodeon Kids choice awards levels of presentation. I am half expecting someone to get slimed by the end of this
I typically agree with you, but I think you can do it right and be honest about it. I think I remember Kinda Funny doing a sponsored thing for The Order last year and then shitting all over the game once it came out. I agree with it being a worrying trend in general though.
You can either be fan/opinion people or you can be PR. I'm sorry, once you go over that line, you've compromised yourself pretty permanently. Kinda Funny isn't immune because they shit on one game after a PR gig.
fucking gross.
Antiwhippy
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I am all the way into it.
I'm not saying they're immune by any means, but as long as there is transparency and I don't get the impression that your opinion is being bought, I don't really have a problem with it personally. I probably wouldn't take this gig if I were in their position, but I don't begrudge them for doing so.
I NEED SOME HOT ANIME WAIFUS MAN
funkystudent
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I am actually way into that if they can nail it.
The Type 0 demo last year really nailed the feel of a camping trip with the bros for me.
Except, even if you acknowledge the conflict, it can subconsciously act on you. If you want to keep getting these gigs, you're probably going to temper your opinion. It may not happen all at once, but it is certainly a corrupting force.
stump sock
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I mean it should be pretty obvious that most anonymous people on the internet don't actually have half a clue about what they're talking about, but here we are. there was that thread in OT about how many millenials convert from supporting socialism to capitalism once they get a job. perspective is everything.
that said, you know, most employers I've had have been pretty up front with what is cool and what isn't. I'm not allowed to talk about specifics about my job or employer on social media. this was made very clear. I don't find it that hard to separate my public footprint from my private life. it seems to be getting harder and harder for other people to do that though.
Death Metalist
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Same here, this will be my first FF because of the combat and the road trip vibe of it all. A Midnight Run fantasy version if you will with a couple of people instead of 2.
stump sock
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me too, this is looking like it'll be the first FF game I've bought in... a decade?
Piston Hyundai
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well this is the first final fantasy I am even remotely interested in and it's entirely because of that aspect
the ridiculous fantasy bullshit was a joke way before people realized it was a joke
well that and the combat actually looked fun
funkystudent
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Cant wait for Jeff to review the Final Fantasy Anime
"We have been making this thing for a decade. We gotta make this money back somehow. Oh god"
"We have been making this thing for a decade. We gotta make this money back somehow. Oh god"
I agree with that, and I definitely think they and people in similar positions need to be careful to not go too far down that hole. But ultimately I think an event here and there is pretty harmless in the grand scheme of things
nckillthegrimace
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WE CANNOT DISCUSS THE LATEST FINAL FANTASY DEVELOPMENT
Death Metalist
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Doom has taunts.
Twin Tails
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I'll watch an anime.
are we now acting like kinda funny was even remotely respectable before this ffxiv event
i don't remember this detail but anyway, i'll leave it be
like i said, it's not even remotely as demoralising as the rapp firing
i don't remember this detail but anyway, i'll leave it be
like i said, it's not even remotely as demoralising as the rapp firing
I disagree. Any sort of PR corruption really kills your credibility.
Piston Hyundai
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Stupid. And not the proper kind of stupid that this game should be striving for.
If i had an employer who told me I couldn't talk about politics on social media i'd have to think long and hard about how badly I needed/wanted the job
what about this Spirits Within 2.0
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