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Well, I have decided that between June 8th to July 6th, I will be traveling in Europe with a Europass, but I would really like some recomendations on how to spend that travel time.

I will be starting off in Germany to see my cousin who is taking a summer course, ending in France, and going down to Spain where my parents will be attending a conference in the middle of it all.

Any recommendations for this American on what to do? And tips on what to pack and where to stay are always appreciated.
 

Boogie9IGN

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If there's one thing Eurotrip taught me, it was to beware of random Italian men who come into your booth on a train.
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Deleted member 1235

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Good for you. My recommendation is for you to bump this thread when you get back and tell me what to watch out for :lol I'm moving to Amsterdam on 23rd July. Everybody I know that has been there says its awesome and it's about 8 hours drive from Berlin apparently so you could check it out being that you are going to Germany..
 
Jacobi said:
Never tell anyone you are American. Anti-Amercism is big in Europe. Also try out Döner Kebap

Don't worry, I can scream anti bush speak with the best of them, and suddenly become Canadian at the drop of the hat, if the situation calls for it.

And whats this Kebab?
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Jacobi said:
Never tell anyone you are American. Anti-Amercism is big in Europe. Also try out Döner Kebap

Well, I can't speak for everywhere in Europe, but here it certainly ain't a problem. Just don't take yourself or your nationality too seriously and you'll be grand :)

A lot of people don't like Bush, but don't confuse that with anti-americanism.
 

beerbelly

Banned
Try Prague, Czech Republic and maybe even St Petersburg, Russia. They both have many historical buildings and great people (to a lesser extent in Russia). Both cities are beautiful, check around online for more info. I have a friend from Czech Republic and she's going back tomorrow actually. But like others have mentioned, don't let them know you're American.
 

CelticFC#1

Free Scotland in 2008
There is a lot of Anti-Americanism, which has been created by the Anti-Bush hate.

You get a lot of "America think they can do what they want, who the fuck do they think they are? They should stick to eating McDonalds those fat asses." jargon from the British media.
 

Draff

Member
It depends what route you're taking... are you hopping between hostels?

As for packing tips.
Pack everything you think you'll need... then take out half of what you packed.
Make sure you can fit everything into at most a large backpack and a smaller daypack.

I also had no real problem with "anti-Americanism". Granted, I'm Canadian, but no one could really make the distinction and most people assumed I was American anyway.
 

Notorious

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Jacobi said:
Never tell anyone you are American. Anti-Amercism is big in Europe. Also try out Döner Kebap

Well that's not in here in The Netherlands. We don't like Bush but that doesn't mean we hate Americans.

You can come to Holland but remember it's legal to smoke weed but you can't do it in public that's the mistake alot of American tourists make. :)
 

nitewulf

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ConfusingJazz said:
And whats this Kebab?
doner kebab is turkish. its minced lamb meat, mixed with herbs and eggwhite, grilled on a rotating spike. they'll slice it off and put it on a pita bread with salad and sauce. godly stuff.
though i have no idea why it was recommended for a euro trip. you have to come to nyc for the best doner kebab. ;)
 

NotMSRP

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How is your trip funded? I really want to tour Europe but have no money to do so right now. Plus, I don't know anyone in Europe or know any languages or cultures there.
 
Funky Papa said:
What countries are you going to visit?

At the moment, the ones I mentioned are the only ones I know for sure, Spain, Germany, and France. I am looking for ideas on where to go though, whether its in these countries or not.
 
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Deleted member 1235

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wait wait wait.

Americans don't know the joys of the kebab?

god I am going to get rich selling you people meat pies and doner kebabs one day I swear it.
 

Suranga3

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catfish said:
wait wait wait.

Americans don't know the joys of the kebab?

god I am going to get rich selling you people meat pies and doner kebabs one day I swear it.

A kebad = donair here in Canada. Same shit, different name for some odd reason.
 
catfish said:
wait wait wait.

Americans don't know the joys of the kebab?

god I am going to get rich selling you people meat pies and doner kebabs one day I swear it.

I know what a kebab is, but he added a german word to the beginning of it, and I thought it might be different, but it turns out I was wrong.

Draff said:
It depends what route you're taking... are you hopping between hostels?

As for packing tips.
Pack everything you think you'll need... then take out half of what you packed.
Make sure you can fit everything into at most a large backpack and a smaller daypack.

I also had no real problem with "anti-Americanism". Granted, I'm Canadian, but no one could really make the distinction and most people assumed I was American anyway.

Thanks, and yeah, I am thinking of staying mostly in hostiles when not visiting friends or relatives.
 

Ghost

Chili Con Carnage!
Come to London i really want to mu...i mean meet you..yes thats it.



You wont have a problem with anti-americanism to your face, just dont walk out of somewhere then walk straight back in, because that's when we'll be saying "fucking americans", we do it even when you havent done anything wrong so dont take offense.
 

silver

Banned
Funky Papa said:
What countries are you going to visit?


Boring
Boring
Boring

Nice ladies, though =P

Actually, Antwerp, Brussels and Brugge are beautiful cities. I'd say go see the big cities: Paris, London, Berlin, Amsterdam, Rome, you name it.
 

mCACGj

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Try to learn and speak as much of the language as possible. They appreciate it a lot, and will treat with you respect. Also, make sure you have comfortable shoes, either walk or take the metro(in France, best public transportation in existance). Taxis are too much money.
 
mCACGj said:
Try to learn and speak as much of the language as possible. They appreciate it a lot, and will treat with you respect. Also, make sure you have comfortable shoes, either walk or take the metro(in France, best public transportation in existance). Taxis are too much money.

Yeah, being a college student really makes one appreciative of comfortable shoes, and since I am cheap, I doubt taxis will be used very often.
 

Lakitu

st5fu
Funky Papa said:
What countries are you going to visit?


Boring
Boring
Boring

Nice ladies, though =P

Yes I myself have a beautiful lady from there :) but I find it far from boring, I wrote an article about it for my college magazine, I find it to be beautiful and peaceful, it's my ideal place to live :D It has many nice places.
 

B'z-chan

Banned
South of Spain i hear is a nice place to visit around this time of year. I would have been going there for the summer, but i was unable to procure the funds to go. Would be nice to stay there and take a few weekend trips around europe.

YOUR CANADIAN, understand me? YES CANADIAN, you love the LEAFS got it? Ok just making sure i knew someone that went to all of the lower european countries and man they got verbally attacked cause they had American flags on they're shoes and on they're back pack. People spit on this person so just becareful.
 

seanoff

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Munich (Munchen) and around that area is very pretty if you are in Germany.

Amsterdam for the fun of it. A bit different with the sex. prositution and drugs all out front. I like amsterdam and dutch girls are pretty yummy.

Switzerland for the scenery. be warned tho, they are very precise the Swiss.

Rome, Florence, Venice, Verona, are all well worth a visit. If u go to venice, go well past St Marks Square, away from the Railway station and out into what passes for the burbs. Really quiet, eerie if u are used to the normal sounds of a city but i wouldn't mind living there. Unlike the Swiss the Italians are not precise at all. Can be a bit of a shock both ways depending on where you are going and coming from.

The Sistine Chapel is amazing, made the mistake of seeing that as my first thing the first time in Europe, all other art after that was meh! St Peters is also stunning. Rome is a walk around history lesson. Fantastic. Florence very pretty and from my travels home to the best looking women on the planet. Others can disagree see Prague

Paris. I really like Paris. Can't put a finger on it but i do like the place.

Monaco, if you like exotic euro cars go here, you are likely to see stuff you only really thought existed in magazines. These people actually drive the damn things. Nice place too.

London. London is a mix, some great stuff tho.

Barcelona = good

Madrid = ok

Prague is supposedly very pretty as are its female inhabitants. Not been there but friends of mine rave.

Other notes

The French and Germans have the best railways. Others are good, except England which oscillates from OK to dire and the italians have a timetable merely as a general guide.

The French speak the best English, i wanted to marry a French girl in Nice, her accent was melting me. The English on the other hand - some of the accents will have you questioning the language they are speaking.

The Germans can be a bit rude. I've heard them cursed in at least 5 langauges often all at once.

Lots of these Euro cities can be got around pretty well on foot.

Food can be expensive (stupid farms policies i suspect)
 

Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
YOUR CANADIAN, understand me? YES CANADIAN, you love the LEAFS got it? Ok just making sure i knew someone that went to all of the lower european countries and man they got verbally attacked cause they had American flags on they're shoes and on they're back pack. People spit on this person so just becareful.
Gee, it is not like we burn americans on sight, we have a few assholes here just like you have some douche hardcore republicans, that all. Just don't go out waving little flags wherever you go and nobody will say nothing nasty to you, neither me or my friends have nothing against US citizens, really.

I'd suggest you to visit the big cities if you wan't to go "wow", specially if you are looking for the typical cultural tourism (museums, ancient ruins at all) Want to party? Europe has some great clubs if you are into electronic music but most bars are closed damn early, plus prices are crazy in most countries. Favourite destinations are Prague and any big Spanish city but you'll need a few friends unless you like to get drunk alone =P

Are you coming to Madrid?

The Germans can be a bit rude. I've heard them cursed in at least 5 langauges often all at once.
They are not rude, indeed they are very polite. It is just that their manners are quite surly (their accent doesn't help either)
 

seanoff

Member
Funky, i'm sure they are polite. But i've been in more than a few lines where some Germans have just pushed in, jumped the queue etc. Thus the $$#$#$ Allermange, $%$#$% Germans, malakas, insert language of choice here.
 

Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I've never have a single problem when I was there but if you think that germans are cheeky bastards you better stay away from Italy :lol
 

seanoff

Member
ah yes, the Italians are all over the place, but Romus et Romanae, (When in Rome do as the Romans do). You expect that in Italy and just go with the flow. I love Italy but it does take me a few days to get used to it. :D
 
Funky Papa said:
Are you coming to Madrid?

Yeah, I am going to Madrid because my parents will be attending a conference there. I am going there after seeing Germany, I will take a train or something I guess.

And thanks for the tips seanoff, really helpful stuff as well.
 

Danj

Member
seanoff said:
London. London is a mix, some great stuff tho.

London. Why is it ALWAYS London? Don't Americans ever visit anywhere outside London? London is not the be-all and end-all of English tourism you know. Of course a lot depends on what you're looking for, but if you're interested in history, architecture or museums there are lots of interesting places outside of London that you should consider visiting. Hadrian's Wall, Beamish Musem, Durham Cathedral (over 900 years old!), Hartlepool's Historic Quay, York's National Railway Museum (and for some reason they've even got Chitty Chitty Bang Bang there for a limited time, I've no idea why though, since it's a car not a train), Rheged in Cumbria, the list goes on. On the other hand, if you're more interested in night-life you could try places like Manchester, Birmingham, Blackpool, Newcastle/Gateshead. Either way there's still plenty of enjoyment to be had without confirming the stereotype and just staying in London all the time.
 

Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
seanoff said:
ah yes, the Italians are all over the place, but Romus et Romanae, (When in Rome do as the Romans do). You expect that in Italy and just go with the flow. I love Italy but it does take me a few days to get used to it. :D
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/italy.php
It had to be posted :D I love Italy, they are so similar to us :lol

Yeah, I am going to Madrid because my parents will be attending a conference there. I am going there after seeing Germany, I will take a train or something I guess.
Tell me what kind of things you'd like to do when here and I'll try to guide you, Madrid is quite big and there are tons of options for the tourist.
 

iapetus

Scary Euro Man
Danj said:
London. Why is it ALWAYS London?

London's pretty convenient to get to, and has so many of the standard attractions. :)

Personally I'd recommend Edinburgh over London any day of the week, though, if you can put up with the occasional bagpipe.
 

Lakitu

st5fu
London's nice but overrated, there are MUCH nicer places, the only best part of London is the center, it's very nice there and it has many tourist attractions but beyond that, it's a shit hole. Has some of the worst places ever.
 

Jacobi

Banned
That was only a joke with the anti-americism. But check out the Döner Kebap (that IS written properly dammit) shops in Germany, here it isn't lamb meat it is meat from the cows, with salad and other vegetables and a white sauce. I'm sure you'll find one quick, since there are 5 of them in my small city. Some pictures to make the thread more beautiful :
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I'm sorry I can't recommend you anything in Europe...only Döner. And Pizza, Italian Pizza not that fakish scum.
 

Lakitu

st5fu
The Meditterenean is an excellent place to visit too :) Italy, Cyprus and Greece are beautiful and hot places.

And it's kebab! :p
 

Dilbert

Member
First, a couple of safety tips. In general, Europe is far safer than America, but you still need to pay attention:

1) Avoid looking like a tourist, and specifically, an American. Some of the things to avoid are obvious: no baseball caps, no clothing with distinctly American logos (including sports teams), no flags, no looking at maps in public areas. Some are less obvious, though: no white socks (seriously!), no extremely fancy sneakers (a lot of Europeans don't wear sneakers, and the ones who do don't wear the ornate-to-the-point-of-being-ugly designs that you find in Foot Locker), and no aimless movement.

2) Carry your wallet in your front pocket. If possible, split up some of your valuables (passport and cash in one front pocket, credit card and backup ID in another) to minimize risk. You also might want to carry a decoy wallet in your back pocket as well. ANYTIME you are in a crowd in a tourist area, you are a target for pickpockets. Do NOT allow people to bump into you, and get in the habit of checking your pockets every couple of minutes.

3) If you stay at the same place for several days, vary your routes to and from the hotel and vary your times of arrival/departure. Do not become predictable, especially when traveling alone.

4) If you happen to run into any kind of agitated situation -- barroom brawl, political demonstration, strike, etc. -- stay calm, stay quiet, and get out of the situation as quickly as you can. Carry the phone number for the American Consulate in the cities you plan to visit.

If you go to Germany, there are several outstanding places to visit.

5) Munich. I wish I would have had more time to spend there -- it was a BEAUTIFUL city. Among the attractions to check out are the Hofbräuhaus (a biergarten which dates back to 1589), Residenz (the palace of the Bavarian kings -- incredibly ornate interior; also has the crown jewels on exhibit), and the Deutsches Museum (kind of like the German equivalent to the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum -- focused on technology and science). You could also get a tour of the BMW factory (bring that credit application!), which I hear is pretty cool. Finally, if you have a chance, the Dachau concentration camp is just outside of Munich. I didn't have a chance to go...and I've always regretted it. I think we have a duty to learn about the unpleasant parts of history...so we don't repeat them.

6) Heidelberg. The main attraction in Heidelberg is the ruined Schloss (castle) which overlooks the town. You can hike up the hill, explore the castle, and take some outstanding pictures.

7) Saarbrücken. There isn't much to see in Saarbrücken itself (unless you are lucky enough to be there for the one outside-of-France stage of the Tour de France which takes place there), but if you're in that part of Germany, make your way over to Strasbourg, France. Strasbourg still has its medieval defense in place: a moat surrounds the city, traversed by bridges. The city has a wonderful museum of modern art, an amazing cathedral, and wonderful food which is a mix of French and German cuisine. (The Alsace-Lorraine region of France has changed hands between France and Germany over the centuries.)

Have a good trip!
 
Funky Papa said:
Tell me what kind of things you'd like to do when here and I'll try to guide you, Madrid is quite big and there are tons of options for the tourist.

Well, obviously the main sights, I am a tourist and all. I guess I should hit a club and a bar while I am there, good eats (especially on my parent's tab), and cool looking vantage points. I know its not specific, but its kinda hard to say really what one digs in a city he has never really been to.
 

u_neek

Junior Member
Come to Copenhagen, Denmark

Great nightlife, hot girls (and guys if you're into that), friendly English speaking people, Pusher Street, the little mermaid (can't believe why Japanese tourists come all the way from Japan to see this piece of shit :lol) and all the boring stuff for cultural minded ;)

The downside is that it's pretty expensive to stay and live in Denmark...

360 degree panorama pics here: http://www.360cityguide.com/360lookbook/city/copenhagen/copenhagen_sights/

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Paris, Prague and Firenze (think it's called Florence in English) are some of my other favorite European cities.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
My one little warning, which I guess goes for any country: people you perceive as homeless and harmless are not always one or both. I got so used to homeless people asking for change in London that I didn't pay enough attention when one guy was really pestering me for money and didn't let up with following me. I ended up getting mugged at gunpoint.

It's paranoid, but it's best to not get too comfortable and let your guard down.
 

HooDoo

Member
Stay away from the opposed to the Constitution France, we stink. It's a nice country though, too bad it's full of us, french people.
 

Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I think that a typical guide for tourist will work for you, you can find a heap of them on the internet. Here are some sites that my foreigner friends like for reference:

Clubbing:

Pacha: Kinda posh. Dance, dance and more dance. One of the clubbing classics.
http://www.pacha-madrid.com

Nasty: Alternative-indy (just like anything in Malasaña :lol) Dirty, crowed and delicious if you are into their crap. Beware, Malasaña is not the best district and weekends can be quite an experience for the American tourist. Chances fo score with a cute, drunk, lost emo girl +1
http://www.nasti.ws

Cafe la Palma: Just go.
http://www.cafelapalma.com

You can find more information here, but beware, they don't have all the clubs listed.

Eating:

Bodegas Ricla: Best cod tapas in the city. Period. Ancient and usually packed.

Casa Revuelta: The place to go if you want to taste some callos. Nice tapas too.

Casa Alberto: Typical Spanish food is served here. It was founded in 1827 and preserves its original appearance.
http://www.casaalberto.es

Drop me a PM when you come if you want more info, I don't want to hijack this thread =)

PS: jinx made a lot of good points for traveling in general but he forgot to mention Munich's friggin' BMW Museum. Shame on you!
 

Boogie

Member
B'z-chan said:
YOUR CANADIAN, understand me? YES CANADIAN, you love the LEAFS got it? Ok just making sure i knew someone that went to all of the lower european countries and man they got verbally attacked cause they had American flags on they're shoes and on they're back pack. People spit on this person so just becareful.

No no no. YOU'RE CANADIAN, and you HATE the Leafs. :p
 
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