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Gran Turismo 5 Prologue The Official Thread of Glorious Cockpit View

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Pistolero

Member
Well, I think -comparing replay footages of course- that GT5P is still the best looking game, in a photorealistic kind of way (better modeling and better lighting...). But damn is it taking long to finish the 5th... o O
 
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alba

Little is the new Big
-x.Red.x- said:
think PD is pissed that turn 10 said

"Best looking racer on ANY console"

I would be...and prove them wrong! :lol
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I think it was a bit too much but the game doesn't look too bad but best? meh. They'll prove them wrong hopefully but who cares anyway xD
 
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Niks

Member
Opus Angelorum said:
And can I add it's nice to see some PD fans compliment Turn 10, it's refreshing.
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Yeah, Turn10 put out in front a very solid effort... and this cannot be said enough, in half the time its taken Polyphony. That fact resonates very well with fans. GT5 will be a monster, no doubt about it but it has taken far too long..

Afterwhenever GT5 will be released, Polyphony Digital will have to rethink its approach for GT6, because by the current development cycle, we would see GT6 in 10 years.


Anyways I hope Kaz can show us something today that will make the wait a bit more bearable.
 
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Ranger X

Member
Opus Angelorum said:
If we do see some footage of GT5, it better not be replay highlights.

And can I add it's nice to see some PD fans compliment Turn 10, it's refreshing.
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Well, it's because i'm not "a fan". It's because I love racing and have certain standards, certain expectations when it comes to a serious racing game. And now, Forza finally met my level of awesome.

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BoilersFan23

Member
Niks said:
Yeah, Turn10 put out in front a very solid effort... and this cannot be said enough, in half the time its taken Polyphony. That fact resonates very well with fans. GT5 will be a monster, no doubt about it but it has taken far too long..

Afterwhenever GT5 will be released, Polyphony Digital will have to rethink its approach for GT6, because by the current development cycle, we would see GT6 in 10 years.


Anyways I hope Kaz can show us something today that will make the wait a bit more bearable.
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Like I said in another thread, a lot of it has to do with PD only needing 1 day to design a car on PS1, 30 days to design a car on PS2, and 180 days to design a car on PS3. When you are aiming to have 400-700 cars and it takes you 180 days just to make one car (also add in all the other things they have to put together for a GT game), its going to take a very long time to finish it. If it took them 3 1/2 years to make GT4, then GT5 is pretty much expected to take 5 years or more. I pretty much guarantee Turn 10 doesn't spend 180 days on one car (I'm betting they spend around 25% of that time at the most).

A lot of it has to do with Yamauchi himself being a perfectionist, trying to make the game perfect, so it will take a lot of time.
 
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-viper-

Banned
Niks said:
Yeah, Turn10 put out in front a very solid effort... and this cannot be said enough, in half the time its taken Polyphony. That fact resonates very well with fans. GT5 will be a monster, no doubt about it but it has taken far too long..

Afterwhenever GT5 will be released, Polyphony Digital will have to rethink its approach for GT6, because by the current development cycle, we would see GT6 in 10 years.


Anyways I hope Kaz can show us something today that will make the wait a bit more bearable.
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GT6 will be out far quicker because they won't have to remake the 700 cars.
 
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Mr.Squirrel

Tom
-viper- said:
GT6 will be out far quicker because they won't have to remake the 700 cars.
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assuming by the time it comes out the ps4 is released and ps3 support is still there. at this rate, the ps4 would be out 3-4 years by the time gt6 is released for the tripple
 
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SolidSnakex

Member
Niks said:
Afterwhenever GT5 will be released, Polyphony Digital will have to rethink its approach for GT6, because by the current development cycle, we would see GT6 in 10 years.
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That will only happen changes their development mentality, which is that they really don't care about anyone else. They work at their own speed. I'm personally fine with it because they've never disappointed me before. If GT5 disappoints me (which I really doubt) then i'd say it's time for them to start looking to change things up. But as long as it delivers then they can make games at whatever speed they like.
 
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H_Prestige

Banned
They don't need to make every car from scratch with the next game(s), so GT6 should be made relatively fast irrespective of what system it's on.
 
mckmas8808

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
avaya said:
I hope they dosn't waste their time with damage modelling for GT5.
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wat? I disagree. After seeing the other game yesterday I think they should go for it.
 
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Angst

Member
Ranger X said:
Well, it's because i'm not "a fan". It's because I love racing and have certain standards, certain expectations when it comes to a serious racing game. And now, Forza finally met my level of awesome.

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Sorry for quoting you again Ranger X, but this is exactly the way I'm thinking. Plus Forza has a release date in a not too distant (and vague) future, which is more than we can say for GT5 right now. It will be interesting to see what Sony has up it's sleeve.
 
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Niks

Member
SolidSnakex said:
That will only happen changes their development mentality, which is that they really don't care about anyone else. They work at their own speed. I'm personally fine with it because they've never disappointed me before. If GT5 disappoints me (which I really doubt) then i'd say it's time for them to start looking to change things up. But as long as it delivers then they can make games at whatever speed they like.
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Agreed.
Maybe we will see later today if that mentality really pays off.
 
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belvedere

Junior Butler
This is the only franchise I can honestly say I know 100% will meet my expectations with every iteration, no matter how long dev time may take.

It's PD people. PD.
 
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Angst

Member
-viper- said:
Probably replay theater. Doesn't look CG.
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Not even the pit with multiple full pit crews? If that's in the game I have to bow down to PD.

Hopefully they'll announce a release date at TGS.
 
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WHOAguitarninja

Member
Looks like it's pre-rendered but using in game assets. The blur and shadow effects are pretty clearly not real time, atleast. The pit crew and maybe car models are the same as in the game, for sure.
 
V

-viper-

Banned
Angst said:
Not even the pit with multiple full pit crews? If that's in the game I have to bow down to PD.

Hopefully they'll announce a release date at TGS.
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Actually the Subaru rally car scene looked CG. Pit crew might be real. They showed that years ago.

But I think all the car models are exactly the same as the ones we'll see in the game.
 
Insane Metal

Insane Metal

Member
So, I re-saved a lot of pics from this thread. :D

And I'm here to ask: how many cars are there in GT5P? And how does that thing of Spec 2 or 3 work? You need to update the game? And what did these updates add to the game?

Thanks to whoever answers me. ^^
 
Goldrusher

Goldrusher

Member
When your PS3 is hooked up to the internet, booting the game will make you download an update. That's currently spec III.

As for the cars, the original release (spec I) had 37 cars. Spec II added 34 more and spec III added the Ferrari California, Lotus Evora and the Citroën GT concept car, bringing the total to 74.

- 74 cars
- 6 tracks
(7 if you count the Daytona oval and road course separately, 12 if you include Fuji with a tweaked chicane and the reverse tracks)

- mission races
- arcade races
- time trial with leaderboards
- splitscreen mode
- online
 
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Dante

Member
-viper- said:
GT5 is at disadvantage for being 1080p. That probably uses a lot of memory. No one is going to care whether the game is 1080p or not, they're just going to care what looks nicer.

They should drop to 720p and max out the graphics. 16 player racing @ 720p60fps would be goood.
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I played F3 at E3 it isn't on par with GTP visually. It looks good, but GTP is better looking overall.
 
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rjcc

Member
belvedere said:
This is the only franchise I can honestly say I know 100% will meet my expectations with every iteration, no matter how long dev time may take.

It's PD people. PD.
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GT4 met your expectations? GT5:p met your expectations? what kinda low expactations do you have?
 
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iamcool388

Member
Dante said:
I played F3 at E3 it isn't on par with GTP visually. It looks good, but GTP is better looking overall.
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Prologue is better looking than Forza 3? I dunno, but I highly doubt it. The gamersyde video encoded in 60fps looked awesome. Then again, as you say you played it, so what do I know. Their 3 screen set-up was sick though... I wish I could've played Forza 3 in that set-up.
 
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Dante

Member
iamcool388 said:
Prologue is better looking than Forza 3? I dunno, but I highly doubt it. The gamersyde video encoded in 60fps looked awesome. Then again, as you say you played it, so what do I know. Their 3 screen set-up was sick though... I wish I could've played Forza 3 in that set-up.
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Again in person I thought F3 did not look as impressive as GTP. I did not play the 3 monitor set up, I saw it there and it looked really sweet, but I did not feel like waiting. Lighting and car modeling just wasn't as good.
 
Insane Metal

Insane Metal

Member
Goldrusher said:
When your PS3 is hooked up to the internet, booting the game will make you download an update. That's currently spec III.

As for the cars, the original release (spec I) had 37 cars. Spec II added 34 more and spec III added the Ferrari California, Lotus Evora and the Citroën GT concept car, bringing the total to 74.

- 74 cars
- 6 tracks
(7 if you count the Daytona oval and road course separately, 12 if you include Fuji with a tweaked chicane and the reverse tracks)

- mission races
- arcade races
- time trial with leaderboards
- splitscreen mode
- online
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Thanks dude!
 
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Liabe Brave

Member
bdizzle said:
assuming by the time it comes out the ps4 is released and ps3 support is still there. at this rate, the ps4 would be out 3-4 years by the time gt6 is released for the tripple
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I don't think there will be two full GT games for the PS3. On both PS1 and PS2, Polyphony's strategy was: 1) A game showing off the technical detail, presentation, and a bevy of good cars, followed by 2) A game improving all aspects of the predecessor, and with a ridiculously huge amount of content.

But it looks like GT 5 will start with a ridiculously huge amount of content, and the PSN allows download updates to add more incrementally. I expect that the game called GT 6 will come out for Sony's next system.
 
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gregor7777

Banned
So I just got the game, and haven't played a GT since the first. So pardon my ancient memories.

Now, there's no way to buy parts/upgrades in GT5P, but this is normally in GT games, no?

I'm assuming they left that out because it isn't a full game or something? Little disappointed there I must say. That's one of my favourite parts of these kinds of games.
 
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Crackers

Neo Member
Yeah, there's no upgrades but you do unlock a quick tune section when you get to the last class.

I think upgrades must be in GT5, but, of course, none of the details are known yet. Roll on next month :)
 
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gregor7777

Banned
Crackers said:
Yeah, there's no upgrades but you do unlock a quick tune section when you get to the last class.

I think upgrades must be in GT5, but, of course, none of the details are known yet. Roll on next month :)
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Were they in GT4?
 
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GodofWine

Member
Spruchy said:
Man I really didn't like a GT game since 2 but I got this at target and im loving it! Really can't wait for the full game.
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I got it for 10 bucks yesterday there too!

Im rolling FAT in my volkswagon GTI :lol

I was gonna wait for GT5...but 10 bucks, fuhgetaboudit. The tight little 'rally' course where you go airborne is great, when I upgraded to an Evo, it was so much more fun.
 
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borsdy

Banned
So iirc the only thing that will transfer over to the finished GT5 will be monie right? Did they say there will be a cap, like GT3->4 was 10,000 credits or something?
 
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skybaby

Member
So I just got a PS3 and wanted to try prologue. Couple of questions:

1. Will my Logitech MOMO wheel work with it or just the G25?
2. I can get the downloadable version for cheaper (and a lot easier) than the disc (no, I can't buy from target at $10, the US is really far away ;p). Any big disadvantages between the download and disc versions?

Thanks guys.
 
Death Dealer

Death Dealer

Member
borsdy said:
So iirc the only thing that will transfer over to the finished GT5 will be monie right? Did they say there will be a cap, like GT3->4 was 10,000 credits or something?
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I thought I read something like 300,000.

Maybe it was only 30,000.

skybaby said:
Any big disadvantages between the download and disc versions?
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Nothing important.

I think the intro video is a separate download or something with the PSN version. I don't know for certain, I bought the disc version.
 
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Angst

Member
skybaby said:
So I just got a PS3 and wanted to try prologue. Couple of questions:

1. Will my Logitech MOMO wheel work with it or just the G25?
2. I can get the downloadable version for cheaper (and a lot easier) than the disc (no, I can't buy from target at $10, the US is really far away ;p). Any big disadvantages between the download and disc versions?

Thanks guys.
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1. Unsure. But I have an old Driving Force EX PS2 wheel and it works like a charm. I think all (most?) PS2 Logitech wheel works.

2. No disadvantages. AFAIK the only difference is that the disc version has more GT TV content pre-installed. In the download version if you want to see the movies you have to DL them yourself (Free of charge) in GT TV. The downside is that you will use up more HD space (get a bigger HD ASAP) :D
 
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keyrat

Member
skybaby said:
So I just got a PS3 and wanted to try prologue. Couple of questions:

1. Will my Logitech MOMO wheel work with it or just the G25?
2. I can get the downloadable version for cheaper (and a lot easier) than the disc (no, I can't buy from target at $10, the US is really far away ;p). Any big disadvantages between the download and disc versions?

Thanks guys.
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1. Any logitech wheel should work.

2. One disadvantage: it's an unshareable game, which means you must be connected to PSN to launch. If you're internet goes down you're outta luck.
 
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