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"GTA4 may launch on Xbox 360 and PS3 Simultaneously"

This would be excellent if it happened. Sales-Age Forums would have to cram it while the rest of us could talk about the game.
 
VeryHungryCaterpillar said:
I don't agree that the open nature of the game makes it the most promising for next gen. Personally, I think Zelda or Metroid with the Revcon or Halo3 show more potential promise for innovation or fun than GTA. I think GTA will be important next gen, but unless it can do MMO and well, it will be same old, same old. And still sell a shitload.
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It's almost a fact imo that GTA open nature render it's possibility endless. Now will their creaters put it that far? That's another question.
GTA is about freedom and interaction in a virtual world. The more our possibilities will widen, better the hardware, ressources etc, the better this game can get, at the very least theorically. See GTA a a primitive and omgwtf early matrix and you'll understand my point of view. And also, there's still a shitload of stuff (almost endless) that GTA can master in matter of free interactive world / sandbox game before even going online. (Not that i'd mind to have an online mode).

Oh and this goes for MMOs too since they are small worlds already.
 
Amir0x said:
I know I'm going to regret this, but... "worser then horrible"?
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Hmm now i think about it, that just wrong english :lol

English is my third language if you where wondering so give me some slack here. Don't immidiately crucify the newbie here. Besides i have seen far worse here.
 
VALIS said:
This would be excellent if it happened. Sales-Age Forums would have to cram it while the rest of us could talk about the game.
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Wishful thinking at it's best. Statisticians at Sales-Age would have to work overtime to calculate which version is selling better or worse, at what rate, speculate why, etc. etc.
 
RamzaIsCool said:
Hmm now i think about it, that just wrong english :lol

English is my third language if you where wondering so give me some slack here. Don't immidiately crucify the newbie here. Besides i have seen far worse here.
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You will get gooder. Keep praticing.
 
RamzaIsCool said:
I don't really see this happening, because it sold so well on ps2 and then they picked some additional sales on pc/xbox. But like 80% of the sales where from the ps2 version, if history teaches us one thing is that you don't fix it if it aint broken (or was that the other way around?).
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Err.. not that userbase numbers wasn't a factor or anything, but it was also on Ps2 forever before they even confirmed that they were working on a Xbox/PC port. Most people who wanted it to begin with already had it for Ps2 by then.

RamzaIsCool said:
sigh.....maybe you can practise with me.
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If that isn't the most blatant invite for a late night rendezvous.. I don't know what is...

"Me' scuze', Me' scuze'"
 
As long as it comes out, it will be great.

HELLO?! ONLINE DEATHMATCHES?!


If the online multiplayer is well done, it could quickly become one of the most popular online games. At least it would stand out among all the online 1st person shooters.
 
If I was Microsoft I would go ahead and take a hit and plop down 200 million dollars for GTA4 to be a exclusive, now that would be a kicker.
 
raYne said:
Err.. not that userbase numbers wasn't a factor or anything, but it was also on Ps2 forever before they even confirmed that they were working on a Xbox/PC port. Most people who wanted it to begin with already had it for Ps2 by then.


If that isn't the most blatant invite for a late night rendezvous.. I don't know what is...

"Me' scuze', Me' scuze'"
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raYne said:
Err.. not that userbase numbers wasn't a factor or anything, but it was also on Ps2 forever before they even confirmed that they were working on a Xbox/PC port. Most people who wanted it to begin with already had it for Ps2 by then.


If that isn't the most blatant invite for a late night rendezvous.. I don't know what is...

"Me' scuze', Me' scuze'"
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So would GTA be as big as it is today if it let say launched on the Xbox as main platform back then? I was trying to point out that if you have the mindshare on a playstation platform you can get pretty far saleswise. That's why I gave Resident Evil as example, in the PSX days Resident Evil was considered one of the big titles. Then CAPCOM began milking the franchise on diffrerent platforms, this deminished the appeal of the game and alienated it's PSX fanbase. Notice that like the big sellers are mostly the ones who are indentified with a single platform. like HALO-> Xbox, GTA-> PS2, Mario titles-> GC. If you as Rockstar got to this point on Playstation platforms why risk it?

Secondly that wasn't meant as an invite, it was to point out that his sentence wasn't proper english either (You will get gooder), so he gave me an advice to practise it, so in my crappy english way I advised him the same thing with saying that sentence. But off course those words are taken in another direction and is maken fun off. So that's my fault I suppose, with my bad luck of word choice. Anyway it was already stated that I suck at english, but I know enough to get my point across, so can we drop this now.....please.
 
I haven't played San Andreas, which is a damn shame, but if anything I hope this next GTA is similar to Vice City... loved the "flash and pizzaz" theme, and throw it in with all the mobster stuff was just perfect.
 
Jewbacca said:
If I was Microsoft I would go ahead and take a hit and plop down 200 million dollars for GTA4 to be a exclusive, now that would be a kicker.
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too big of a gamble, as there's no guarantee it'll bolster the flagging sales of their brand.
 
RamzaIsCool said:
So would GTA be as big as it is today if it let say launched on the Xbox as main platform back then? I was trying to point out that if you have the mindshare on a playstation platform you can get pretty far saleswise. That's why I gave Resident Evil as example, in the PSX days Resident Evil was considered one of the big titles. Then CAPCOM began milking the franchise on diffrerent platforms, this deminished the appeal of the game and alienated it's PSX fanbase. Notice that like the big sellers are mostly the ones who are indentified with a single platform. like HALO-> Xbox, GTA-> PS2, Mario titles-> GC. If you as Rockstar got to this point on Playstation platforms why risk it?
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That wasn't even the argument.. The argument was that according to you 80% of sales were from the Ps2 version. I'm simply giving another reason why that happened. Also, they aren't "risking" anything by making it a simultaneous release since the Ps2 (or 3 in this case) fanbase wouldn't be alienated at all.

As for your point about the appeal of a game diminishing just because it's "milked" (of which your definition of is wrong btw)... If you say so. I'd say you're wrong, but I'm not gonna argue all day about it.

Secondly that wasn't meant as an invite, it was to point out that his sentence wasn't proper english either (You will get gooder), so he gave me an advice to practise it, so in my crappy english way I advised him the same thing with saying that sentence. But off course those words are taken in another direction and is maken fun off. So that's my fault I suppose, with my bad luck of word choice. Anyway it was already stated that I suck at english, but I know enough to get my point across, so can we drop this now.....please.
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So that's what all the kids are calling it these days? Hmm...

I know, it's just a joke.. ;)
 
Himuro said:
This will ruin the graphical finesse the next gen GTA's have.
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That's gotta be the funniest shit I've read on GAF in a while.



Sony losing the exclusivity of the GTA franchise would be colossal. Makes no bones about it.

Anyway, from a financial standpoint, this is the most logical step for TT to take. I think its probably only a matter of time before we start hearing about more franchises being taken down this route.

Oh, and I called this shit yesterday:

Speaking of which, since Bioware seems to be a predominately Xbox developer, what's to say they couldn't just make GTA for the 360? Or, dare I say, a simultaneous release on both the 360 and PS3?
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Fifth post down
 
drohne said:
you'll just have to switch them really fast as you drive into a new area

think of it as a minigame
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:lol






gofreak said:
Although this is old news..

.. I'm seeing a lot of expressions of shock and mocking of the very idea, but..honestly, I'm not sure what's so unlikely about this scenario? It could well happen.
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Some people just assume that certain franchises will stay exclusive with Sony for the rest of their lives. And to be fair that could be the case if the PS3/360 sales ratio is similiar to the PS2/XBox sales ratio. But most people expect the 360 to be a stronger competitor, which means there's less reason to forsake that market just for the sake of pocketing five or ten million.

Nothing about this would be surprising...Take Two is in business for themselves, not SCE. Simple logic dictates that they'll be better off releasing the game for both consoles at the same time. Particularly when MS will no doubt be offering Take Two a nice deal just to ensure they get the game at the same time. There's simply no reason for Take Two to make GTA4 exclusive for anyone, unless Sony or MS are willing to pay $50 million for the privelage. And when you look at the big picture, that's just stupid business.

The gist of that article makes more sense...Sony and MS are better off buying developers to make exclusive games for themselves, rather then getting into bidding wars over third party games that'll only be exclusive for a period of months.

The two companies are loaded, but they're not THAT loaded.






StRaNgE said:
if it makes ya sleep better at night. i stopped caring as soon as they took the story line away from the mob and made it about petty street crime.

i always liked the fact it was mob related before.
soon as it became just some thug holding up 7/11's it ruined it for me.

(that's got nothing to do with gameplay though, just story)
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:lol :lol :lol I think there was one mission where you jacked a pizza store, and even then it was the other guy who did it (and he never got away with it anyway...the pizza guy chases you out with a shotgun :lol). San Andreas has plenty of mob stuff...it just has a lot of street gang stuff as well, which I felt made a nice change from the previous games.






Himuro said:
I call bullshit. This will ruin the graphical finesse the next gen GTA's have. Start with an exclusive and work your way down and port. Don't make them all multiconsole at the same damn time. Ugh.
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The previous games ran on the Renderware engine, which was hardly cutting edge but highly flexible. And while the visuals were decent, they weren't really state of the art. I doubt they were gonna take a different approach for the next GTA game.
 
Wax Free Vanilla said:
umm... :lol


Rockstar North are developing an exclusive GTA for PLAYSTATION 3.

Rockstar London are developing an exclusive GTA for Xbox 360
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To tell you the truth, this wouldn't be bad idea (for Take Two). Have GTA be essentially the same game but with slighty different missions and plot on different versions of the game. That way they can capitalize fully on both the X360 and PS3 markets.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
See, now you guys got him all paranoid.
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Actually I find most of the things pretty funny and if it's not personal attack I don't mind what you guys are saying. The irony that I now see is by making a post like that, I make it again bait for you guys, although it was my purpose to do the opposite.

Anyway, I don't care if it's on Xbox360/ Ps3 or time exclusive or exclusive on one platform. It's not my problem, it's the problem of Take Two. And being it's flagship title and all they will probably make extensive research how and where to release this thing. I suppose there are a lot of factors weighing in besides of userbase and the power of a platform. I am only trying to point out why exclusive games can reach such high sales in opposed to multi platform titles. Can anybody give a salechart or something of the best selling games of this generation?
 
Whatever.

I played GTA3 fully, really didn't care for Vice City, and stopped playing San Andreas. The games don't do much for me anymore. I've read about rumors of MS actually buying Rockstar, they can freaking have them.

Of course this would definitely have a very positive impact on the 360's sales, especially if you won't be able to get it on PS3.

The question is, will GTA carry on into the next gen as being the #1 game for basically all consoles, or will it be more like Final Fantasy where it was very popular and influential on the PSX, but didn't matter nearly as much for PS2?
 
Diablos said:
The question is, will GTA carry on into the next gen as being the #1 game for basically all consoles, or will it be more like Final Fantasy where it was very popular and influential on the PSX, but didn't matter nearly as much for PS2?
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FF's not as influential because there's only been 1 this gen compared to 3 major FF's last gen.
 
SSX: (Plz requote me, I made a typo)

Right, but PS2 still carried on without losing the top spot.

My question is if GTA becomes completely irrelevant or close enough to that for PS3, will it hurt their sales? Can they carry on without last gen's key game series?

Especially if MS BUYS Rockstar... that could spell trouble for Sony.
 
Shinobi said:
Some people just assume that certain franchises will stay exclusive with Sony for the rest of their lives.

...

Nothing about this would be surprising...Take Two is in business for themselves, not SCE. Simple logic dictates that they'll be better off releasing the game for both consoles at the same time.
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While at the same time some people assume that some franchises will forever stay exclusive to Xbox. I mean, some things will have to stay exclusive to make platforms more attractive. By your logic, it wouldn't make a shred of sense to have a single exclusive Xbox game from a 3rd party publisher, but that was far from the truth - and now we see some 3rd party exlclusive games on Xbox 360 too.
 
Wyzdom said:
It's almost a fact imo that GTA open nature render it's possibility endless. Now will their creaters put it that far? That's another question.
GTA is about freedom and interaction in a virtual world. The more our possibilities will widen, better the hardware, ressources etc, the better this game can get, at the very least theorically. See GTA a a primitive and omgwtf early matrix and you'll understand my point of view. And also, there's still a shitload of stuff (almost endless) that GTA can master in matter of free interactive world / sandbox game before even going online. (Not that i'd mind to have an online mode).

Oh and this goes for MMOs too since they are small worlds already.
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Though you single out GTA, then any open nature-type game "render it's possibilities endless" by your description. But without online there are inherent limitations. GTA is not truly all about freedom as there are missions that need to be accomplished-effectively these are analogous to dungeons in an action/adventure/rpg or levels in a FPS.

There is quite a bit of openness in DragonQuest VIII with many sidequests and collect-a-thons. I'm sure DQ's possibilites could be advanced as well with more powerful media and hardware as much as GTA's. Halo next gen, even without online, has as much potential as GTA. Zelda games are quite open, with some limitations, why wouldn't Zelda have nearly as much potential? Add in the RevCon and you have much more possibilites than GTA. I can list more games. I can't see how GTA is unique in having its bar raised with the next gen.
 
SolidSnakex said:
FF's not as influential because there's only been 1 this gen compared to 3 major FF's last gen.
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FF XI? FF X-2? ? FF:CC? just playin'. ;)

I don't think FF X sold as well as any of the PS1 era FFs. I may be wrong. That may be part of the equation.
 
Diablos said:
My question is if GTA becomes completely irrelevant or close enough to that for PS3, will it hurt their sales? Can they carry on without last gen's key game series?
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I don't think it'll be irrelevant next gen. The question will be whether or not it'll be as big as it is this gen. There's nothing saying it won't, but as we've seen each gen there's almost always a new 'big" thing to come along. No one really expected GTA to be it this gen. It could really be anything.
 
Marconelly said:
While at the same time some people assume that some franchises will forever stay exclusive to Xbox. I mean, some things will have to stay exclusive to make platforms more attractive. By your logic, it wouldn't make a shred of sense to have a single exclusive Xbox game from a 3rd party publisher, but that was far from the truth - and now we see some 3rd party exlclusive games on Xbox 360 too.
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But the MS' and Nintendo's major franchises are exclusive to their hardware- due to the franchise developers being first party. GT, J&D, etc. are big for Sony, but not the overall hardware sellers like MGS, FF, and GTA (this gen).
 
I doubt this news will happen. What it does is make the news that it's PS3 exclusive (when it's announced) an even bigger trout slap :lol.
 
Wyzdom said:
It's almost a fact imo that GTA open nature render it's possibility endless. Now will their creaters put it that far? That's another question.
GTA is about freedom and interaction in a virtual world. The more our possibilities will widen, better the hardware, ressources etc, the better this game can get, at the very least theorically. See GTA a a primitive and omgwtf early matrix and you'll understand my point of view. And also, there's still a shitload of stuff (almost endless) that GTA can master in matter of free interactive world / sandbox game before even going online. (Not that i'd mind to have an online mode).

Oh and this goes for MMOs too since they are small worlds already.
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EXACTLY


gta is like "virtua sandbox world"




not to be taken literally but they really could do anything and have it "fit"


Example: in my gta my main guy became a star athelte instead of a thug (madden), my guy became a huge crime boss and city overlord (a "Tycoon" style game), My guy became a scientist and unleased hell (survival horror).


I mean obviously those are just day dreams but with A LOT of time and A LOT of money a future gta game/world could be what you make of it. Will it happen? probably not. But there is always room for expansion.
 
Isn't Crackdown an X360 exclusive? From what I have read, this game has a lot of promise and has the same sandbox gameplay aften associated with GTA.
 
Cpl_Cain said:
Great news, but I thought this was pretty much a given with Rockstar's financial situation being what it is.
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Lets try not to get too excited, it's not even actual news.

yet!

DenogginizerOS said:
Isn't Crackdown an X360 exclusive? From what I have read, this game has a lot of promise and has the same sandbox gameplay aften associated with GTA.
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But better! (ok, not really)

I'm not sure if it'll remain exclusive but the co-op in it will add a lot. Plus of course there's the superpowers!
 
DenogginizerOS said:
Isn't Crackdown an X360 exclusive? From what I have read, this game has a lot of promise and has the same sandbox gameplay aften associated with GTA.
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It's being made by the ex-DMA guy, yes? That's 360 exclusive.

It's easy to describe a game one way but whether it actually lives up to that is another question. There have been SO MANY gta-clones/"killers" etc.
 
Marconelly said:
While at the same time some people assume that some franchises will forever stay exclusive to Xbox.
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Like what? Dead or Alive? Sony's had that game twice. Shit Sega had that game twice, and they don't even make consoles anymore. So no shit that's up for grabs. What else does that leave, Ninja Gaiden? Anyone with brains should know that could go multiplatform. Halo? Owned by MS. And that leaves...what exactly? Mainly MS-published stuff, or stuff from developers owned by MS. There really weren't a lot of Metal Gear Solids, GTA's or VF4's on the XBox...high profile third party games that were offered up to or bought by Sony as exclusives. So er, yeah...no fucking shit the same rule applies to MS.
 
DenogginizerOS said:
Isn't Crackdown an X360 exclusive? From what I have read, this game has a lot of promise and has the same sandbox gameplay aften associated with GTA.
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Yes, David Jones, creator of GTA is making Crackdown for Microsoft. Microsoft is funding the game
 
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