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Guild Wars 2 |OT2| Funding An MMO Entirely On Quaggan Backpacks
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You probably did. I haven't been able to play much per night in almost two weeks. But, starting tomorrow afternoon I'll be on lots again hopefully! Sorry about that.Lol, I did send you a mail yesterday asking for an invite, but at the time I wasn't sure if I had the right person.
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woohoo!
It's no big deal. Besides, I'm on a new character that's still very low level so I'm not much use to anyone just yet.
Warrior_Keoni
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Enjoy what Tyria has to offer. I made the mistake of rushing through to level real fast, only to skip out on small tidbits of the game world.
I'm not making that mistake with my other characters, and have enjoyed leveling a few so far. Only class I'm missing out on leveling is a necromancer.
I don't know how much you know about the downscaling, but I really really enjoy running around helping lowbies level up, personally.
So we should definitely go on an adventure sometime soon.Well I'm going to be online for the next holiday event thing, so you'll have an invite waiting for you next time you log in.
Thanks.
Warrior_Keoni
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All I have time nowadays is to do a set of jumping puzzles in the Borderlands, considering EB JP is always camped by JQ.
Will be doing Tixx and possibly CoF 1, and Ghosteater.
Will be doing Tixx and possibly CoF 1, and Ghosteater.
Well done!
Credit goes to Keoni for organizing the event, and ShinKodachi for the video/banner. I'm just the messenger.
What exactly is this? The FAQ doesn't say. Like, specifically what kinds of things are we going to do?
It just says "take back orr" but it doesn't say what that actually means.
Exactly what it says; Retake Orr as a Guild. We've been wanting to organize a big "Get the Guild together" event and since a constant complaint is that no one visits Orr anymore, this seemed like a really cool thing to end the year on.
Basically, everyone will split into three teams (based along their Vigil/Priory/Order choice) and basically push all of the paths into Orr simultaneously, and keep pushing until we lose steam or take everything. All of the temples and karma vendors that are constantly contested? GAFGuild flips those in a very visible way.
What does it mean to retake orr? What are "paths of orr"? Is this a roleplaying thing? Are we actually fighting monsters? Are there events? Dungeons? What is Orr in the first place? Is it a group of zones, or a single zone? Zhaitan is a dragon right? Is he in a dungeon or on a map?
I literally have no idea what this event is from reading the posts here or the page on gafguild.
Warrior_Keoni
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How about coming to the event to find out instead?
Edit: Just so people know, I rarely touch this thread. I don't often check it compared to being over at gafguild.com since that's where the majority of my duties lay in.
How about some basic communication about what is involved in the event before I commit one of my holiday days. I don't have unlimited time to play this game, and my time is particularly limited right now between a deadline at work and holiday time with the family.
I love doing stuff with the guild. I've enjoyed the fractal race, CM race, normal dungeon and fractal runs etc. It just peeves me when obviously a lot of time and energy was put into trying to create another awesome event for the guild, but the part where they actually communicate what the event entails is left out. Literally zero information was communicated except the date.
Orr is a a group of maps, just like Shiverpeak Mountains or Magumma Jungle. The Orr maps are Straits of Devastation, Melchor's Leap and Cursed Shore. INFO.
I'm not sure the plan exactly, but certainly there will be fighting and dynamic events to do as a team.
EDIT: For example (and I'm not planning those so I have no idea) but the temples in are in Orr to get the 42k Karma Armor, I'd assume we'll try to tackle a few of those event chains which are all normally contested waypoints.
Awesome work. Sounds amazing.
I only hope server guesting is up for that.
If you haven't gotten to Orr yet in the game, it probably doesn't make sense to you;
Orr is basically three high level zones; Straits of Devastation, Malchor's Leap and Cursed Shores. They are considered the stronghold of Zhaitan, the undead dragon who is basically the villain of GW2 at the moment.
Orr zones have no renown hearts, and are instead comprised entirely of Dynamic Events where the three Orders and the Risen constantly play tug of war for various temples through the city. At any given time some of these temples are contested or open, based on what players are doing to help retake / defend them. There are three 'paths' that the events generally follow, leading to different temples.
Our event will start at Fort Trinity in Straits of Devastation, break off into three groups and follow each of the paths, retaking all of the various camps and temples along the way. No roleplaying is involved, this is something that actually changes the game world for a while (until the Risen retake the positions) and helps anyone in the area progress further. It involves fighting lots of Risen and lots of Dynamic events. No dungeons are involved, though if we succeed it will open access to Arah (where you actually fight Zhitan) for anyone who wants to do it.
Thanks. One of my characters is in straits of devastation but I kind of stopped doing the stuff down there since the effort/reward was all out of whack. If this event is only meant for people who have already done Orr, then that's fine. There's plenty to do in the game.
So if these 'paths' are tied to which order you joined, are we basically going along and doing story quests? If not, how does the order in your story play into these paths?
It seemed out of whack because it was meant for lots of players to be working together, which most don't since there are 'better' places to farm now, apparently. You don't need to have any previous experience in Orr to attend; you don't even need to be level 80, though you'll have to be 75 or so.
The paths are not tied to which order you joined, but to help divide players up, we are using that as a way to form teams for the various paths. Personal story is not involved at all, we're just using that as a way to organize teams.
The only problem with this is participation:
Getting enough people to participate
Getting enough people who participate who are in each order
Getting enough people who participate who are in each order high enough level
Getting enough people who participate who are in each order high enough level for each order to have a good amount to actually go through each prong of Straits.
More than likely I foresee we'll have to "join up" at times if one "prong" is going slower or not at all than others. After that it's everyone together in a big zerg in Malchor's and Cursed Shore. This is however an all day affair. I think taking the entire three zones will at least take 5 hours or more.
Getting enough people to participate
Getting enough people who participate who are in each order
Getting enough people who participate who are in each order high enough level
Getting enough people who participate who are in each order high enough level for each order to have a good amount to actually go through each prong of Straits.
More than likely I foresee we'll have to "join up" at times if one "prong" is going slower or not at all than others. After that it's everyone together in a big zerg in Malchor's and Cursed Shore. This is however an all day affair. I think taking the entire three zones will at least take 5 hours or more.
It's actually very easy to tag along and assist, it's not like it's rocket science. Basically just follow each leader and help with whatever dynamic event they're pushing through. Simple.
I am going to come, it sounds fun. I'm not talking about the difficulty of it, I'm talking about communication. But I've said my piece. I don't want to be overly critical. It's just very frustrating on the receiving end.
Some people like knowing more before committing and that is fine. Others just like the sound of an event and go in with whatever expectations they have or don't have. Then there're the people that do it just for the experience of being with the rest of the guild at once. I personally fall in the "need to know more" category as well but with this game it tends to work better if you just show up to an event and dig out if you don't like it (so long as you're the proper level). But you are right, there are people that have not set foot in the Orrian zones despite hitting 80.
"The best laid plans of mice and men oft(en) go astray" -Robert Burns
This is the gist.
If you have not been to Orr long enough to understand how those maps work, then show up to this while at level 70+. The only way for you to understand otherwise would be some long indepth explanation that still won't really get you to fully understand until you've played there.
That's why the concise version of the info is pretty much, "Show up at Orr."
If you have been to Orr and understand how the maps there work, then "take Orr" is all you really need to understand, unfortunately.
If you have not been to Orr long enough to understand how those maps work, then show up to this while at level 70+. The only way for you to understand otherwise would be some long indepth explanation that still won't really get you to fully understand until you've played there.
That's why the concise version of the info is pretty much, "Show up at Orr."
If you have been to Orr and understand how the maps there work, then "take Orr" is all you really need to understand, unfortunately.
And this is why a lot of people are just simply not going to show up. I have two level 80 characters. I probably play this game more than I should. Yet I had zero fucking clue what the event was about, even after bothering to go to the guild forums and try and find more info. I'm certainly not going to just show up for some 5 hour guild event during the holidays with no information about it, and honestly the "stop asking for information and just show up" is insulting. Seriously.
there are huge chains that lead to taking over temples. the temples have the karma gear many people buy as starting exotics. it's about 6-8 events or so each. though I think some are slightly longer. At the end are boss fights that have a chest to loot.
You know I really tried to see where you were coming from on this through all your posts.
But no.
This is supposed to be fun man. You don't have to come if you don't want to. If you do, do. No one is expecting anyone to understand anything the guild organizers haven't explained; that's the point.
The people already boiling it down for you to "well we'll do this # events in this zone and these are the rewards and this is how long it will take" are sucking a little of the fun out of it for people who maybe DO want to just show up and enjoy themselves. If you'd like a PM explaining a lot of specifics of what's gonna go down that would be perfectly understandable.
The idea is sort of that even if a guild member doesn't understand what it's all about or what the whole concept around Orr is, this event is going to be a fun way to check it out. I hope you can see where I'm coming from!
It sounds so much less cool when you put it that way
I didn't say, "stop asking for information." I just said that the gist, for a quick FAQ explanation, could be nothing more than, "show up for Orr time." Orr has certain mechanics that are unique to it. If I started trying to throw around PvP or WvW explanations, how much of it would you understand or really get a feeling for without actually showing up there and trying it out?
I was not trying to insult you. You chose to take it as an insult.
I'll break it down a little for those who haven't been to Orr or read about it yet.
RP-flavor-speak:
Orr (comprised of the Straits of Devastation, Malchor's Leap, and the Cursed Shore) is full of corruption and the echoes of the past, buried for over a century beneath the waves.
When Zhaitan awoke, he pushed the land upwards and brought the ruins to light - or did he? You won't find any serene archeological digs here. The temples to the Gods that once stood proudly are covered in seaweed and filth. The Risen cover the land and Zhaitan lies in wait deep in the Ruined City of Arah.
It's up to the Vigil, the Priory, and the Order of Whispers to take it back. Orr is very much a warzone. There are assaults on the temples, troop escorts, and more as you cut back the Risen and push deeper.
Non-RP-speak:
GAFGuild will tear some Risen a new one. We will push into Orr, complete dynamic event chains, and hopefully clear some temples so players can purchase exotics and do Arah, if they like. This benefits not just the guild but anyone on the server trying to get into a contested area. It's dangerous to go alone - take this.
Anyone who wants to go to Orr, but has trouble finding a group, or who doesn't know what Orr's all about but wants to, should come join us.
It's not just about events and loot. I get all nerdy about game lore, and the ruined temples and mystery and history are just too awesome. You can climb the tower where
RP-flavor-speak:
Orr (comprised of the Straits of Devastation, Malchor's Leap, and the Cursed Shore) is full of corruption and the echoes of the past, buried for over a century beneath the waves.
When Zhaitan awoke, he pushed the land upwards and brought the ruins to light - or did he? You won't find any serene archeological digs here. The temples to the Gods that once stood proudly are covered in seaweed and filth. The Risen cover the land and Zhaitan lies in wait deep in the Ruined City of Arah.
It's up to the Vigil, the Priory, and the Order of Whispers to take it back. Orr is very much a warzone. There are assaults on the temples, troop escorts, and more as you cut back the Risen and push deeper.
Non-RP-speak:
GAFGuild will tear some Risen a new one. We will push into Orr, complete dynamic event chains, and hopefully clear some temples so players can purchase exotics and do Arah, if they like. This benefits not just the guild but anyone on the server trying to get into a contested area. It's dangerous to go alone - take this.
Anyone who wants to go to Orr, but has trouble finding a group, or who doesn't know what Orr's all about but wants to, should come join us.
It's not just about events and loot. I get all nerdy about game lore, and the ruined temples and mystery and history are just too awesome. You can climb the tower where
Vizier Khilbron cast the spell that doomed all of Orr to a watery un-death.
Fun is different for everybody. I simply cannot agree that what you described is fun. If you're saying that I am actually ruining the event for people by asking what the hell it's even about, then we are not going to agree on this topic.You know I really tried to see where you were coming from on this through all your posts.
But no.
This is supposed to be fun man. You don't have to come if you don't want to. If you do, do. No one is expecting anyone to understand anything the guild organizers haven't explained; that's the point.
The people already boiling it down for you to "well we'll do this # events in this zone and these are the rewards and this is how long it will take" are sucking a little of the fun out of it for people who maybe DO want to just show up and enjoy themselves. If you'd like a PM explaining a lot of specifics of what's gonna go down that would be perfectly understandable.
The idea is sort of that even if a guild member doesn't understand what it's all about or what the whole concept around Orr is, this event is going to be a fun way to check it out. I hope you can see where I'm coming from!
It sounds so much less cool when you put it that way
It's extremely frustrating to see some kind of trailer about a guild event that literally says nothing except the date. Then to read a "FAQ" about it that also says nothing. If you think that is the epitome of fun, then you are wrong. It's like a trailer for a game that says 10 different ways how great the game is, in white text on a black background, but doesn't show any footage or even give a hint as to the game's genre. How would that trailer convince me to buy that game? Maybe it would convince people who get hyped up on marketing, but I would rather just see the game. I don't think I'm in some kind of tiny minority.
The way you are characterizing it makes it seem less and less interesting. I don't want to go for an impulsive frolic. I want to accomplish something specific, knowing ahead of time what specific thing I am trying to accomplish.
Warrior_Keoni
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That's fine Usea, I can see where you are coming from. The objective of this event is basically doing the dynamic events in Orr, and holding them from start to finish. I find it weird you have two level 80s but don't really know what retaking Orr is? I must be missing something.
Please don't assume less people will show up just because you say so. This is completely uncalled for and does not represent the GAFGuild community. If you cannot participate in this event, it's okay. There will be other events which you might be able to attend. Thanks for your interest in this.
HUH? what?
You are talking about selling a game in relation to a guild-run event?
The bolded just makes me go wow. WOW. You're saying, you don't want to do anything in the game that is fun? Oh, unless it accomplishes something.
We're opening areas of the game that are closed due to the event going on / people not interested at the moment. Wallach even spelled it out it's a way to open areas to get Karma Exotics. What more could you want?
I'm not sure this is the game for you, man.
Totally understandable when you put it that way, fun is definitely not the same for everybody!
I'm sorry we disagree on this and I'm also sorry you're not really looking forward to the event. In some cases in the future I'd actually really like to do "surprise events" with way, way less information even than this presented up front sometimes next year, and I can totally understand how that won't appeal to you, and others, at all.
Hopefully, almost undoubtedly, there will be future events and event announcements that are more along the lines of what you are interested in. And you can always feel free to suggest event ideas too
edit: Oh fearless leader, there's no reason for this to go on any further
I regret stoking the fire to any extent in the first placei want one of those lil griffins so bad
I am talking about communication, not the event. I am saying that when you hold an event, you should communicate what that event entails in ways that are clear to the people you want to attend. Some people disagreed with me on that, saying what I understand to be essentially "the mystery of the event is what makes it fun; it wouldn't be as fun if you knew what it was about before coming." I disagree with that.
I don't like the way you guys are trying to escalate this or twist my words. I don't think it's productive to continue this discussion anymore.
I don't like the way you guys are trying to escalate this or twist my words. I don't think it's productive to continue this discussion anymore.
I apologize, I wasn't trying to escalate it. I was just trying to point out that you were getting pretty far out there in terms of what you were trying to communicate.
I understand that you're the type of person who needs to know everything before committing to something; that's something that a bunch of us disagree on - I, myself, don't mind jumping in blindly because I don't mind taking risks and seeing what happens. I'm not going to hate myself or anything over it.
For you, the fun is getting absolute detail on what's going down and how it will be done. I completely understand. Some people love spoilers, some don't. Just how people are brah.
I think you definitely understood the point some of us were making correctly and it's totally understandable that you don't agree.
Sorry that you feel anyone has attempted to twist your words and I'm also sorry personally for keeping it going any longer than necessary. In the future, I think it would be helpful for you to PM an officer if you have specific concerns regarding an event of this nature.
Hythloday said:
If ArenaNet ever allows name changes will you promise me to become AdriARAH?
Kos Luftar
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Fixed.
No worries mate though I prefer arahARAH. As long as you fund the 500 gems it'll probably cost.
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