I lived in the alternate history. Wolf3d was huge at the time for PC gamers in my circle. Heck, I played Blake Stone before I got my hands on Doom. Doom didn't even run past 10 fps on my 386. I had to get the real experience at my friend's house who has a 486.
386 you had to make the window the smallest it can go. A friend of mine played through both games that way on his, now that's truly hardcore, especially on 13"-15" monitors at the time.
I remember doing that. "Performance mode" at a lower resolution.
Yeah maybe before i got my Pc, i got my first PC in 1995, a pentium 75, so yours is older, it was all Doom then and the FP Shooters were called Doom clones if Wolfenstein 3d was big in the past it certainly wasn't reported in the mags, they just said it was the first
I remember seeing Wolf3D at a friend's house before DOOM and being blown away, both because of the graphics and the violence and nazi imagery…it was almost like the first time I saw a playboy.
No. Doom was bigger, but wolf was big.
The game was heavily written about in PC Mags. I used to grab magazines just for the shareware. It was so popular in it's time it got a Mac port and even a SNES port. And a sequel almost immediately. It still doesn't compare to the influence of Doom though. A lot of kids didn't have access to PCs until after Doom came out... So even though Wolf3d was big in PC gaming, it was relative. PC gaming was more niche then.
So Doom overshadowed it when it came out which was my time a bit after yours,fair enough, i was on the Amiga back then and wouldnt have heard of it, the Amiga section was as large as the PC one in the shops i used but i never looked at the games, you cant have Doom without Wolfenstein 3d, but i didn't think it was as popular as it was, yeah it was more niche agreed, my first Wolfenstein was Return to Castle Wolfenstein i loved that game that
Yeah, Wolfenstein 3D was huge. Their shareware was everywhere too and all the various PC magazines had reviews.
None of this is true. Wolfenstein 3D and Spear Of Destiny were both absolutely massive games. Doom was nuclear, but very much in the context of it being the next game by the creators of Wolfenstein 3D. It was one of the big games that cemented the Shareware model as viable, along with the classic Apogee lineup.
No they wern't MASSIVE games, it was a niche market as Sid of Bee already pointed out, and it was true from 1995 onwards, it was alll DOOM!, how about i call you a liar back, if you don't agree, fine, i don't care.
It was huge in my circles as well. This was well before Doom. The hype for Doom was huge because we played Wolf3D
No, they were massive games. Everyone with a PC at that time was aware of them, or wanted to play them. They were a huge, huge deal. And, you weren't there, so you wouldn't know.
Total rubbish, how old are you, you sound like a very immature middle age man or a younger gamer trolling, which is it
Well i didnt, i had heard of Doom though
Same here. Everyone knew Wolfenstein and doom just kept that train going
It wasnt reported in the mags after 1994/95, apart to state it came first and i agree Doom overshadowed it, i said so earlier, as for before then yeah it would of been but PC gaming was much smaller then with Amiga section being just a big in shops with Atari ST being half the size of both, a couple of years later the PC had taken over with the Pentium chips and then the 3D accelerator cards, i agree with you, i never said magazines didnt exist before 95, but Doom was the most influential
Depends on what country you lived i guess.
Yeah the PC took over and became a lot better, i'm in England and in 93/94 i ended up just playing Championship Manager 93 and 94 on the Amiga and the Amiga games started dwindling and they announced the move to PC, so i decided to switch and started to hear of this Doom game here and there without any internet back then and when i got a PC, one of the first things i did was buy and play Doom, i had not heard of Wolf 3D unlike you though, and the PC mags i bought afterwards didnt mention it much either, too many new great FPS games were coming out, so maybe it is location, afterall Core Design and Rockstar were in England back then
Literally everyone in this thread is telling you that you're wrong, so you might want to cool it with the abuse.
You can tell me what you like and i will still disagree, i'm not wrong you are. but it's all opinions in the end, and you just want to argue, grow up
Huh?
?? Wolfenstein wasn't Doom big, but it was still damn big. Your anecdotel experience or blindspot doesn't say anything for the gaming community as a whole. Hell, I have an anecdotel experience that speaks the opposite of yours. The first time I played Wolfenstein 3d was on my "pure country" uncle's computer. This guy didn't game at all and somehow had a copy.
Doom was far bigger than Wolfenstein 3D and far more influential but yes it came first, and was big in the 386 era and circles, which was smaller than the later PC gaming market, now that's my opinion and it won't change, you say i'm blind i say your making the game out to be bigger than it was.
Well, the whole revisionist history claim you are making is coming from a misrepresentation of DF's statements. Yes Doom was bigger, no one said different. Wolfenstein being a big deal and Doom being a runaway breakthrough success are not mutually exclusive.
