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[ViewtifulJC]

The Infection competitive community is very upset by that post

 

[nillapuddin]

what slightly said, holy fuck this is getting ridiculous.

everyone is president of competitive halo relations these days

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

Are you speaking on behalf of this community? How would you define it? How big is it?

you are just using a damn straw man argument.

 

[Steelyuhas]

Yeah, so is the lack of any information that benefits the Competitive Community

Isn't an unquestionably better core gameplay/gunplay than the past two Halo games pretty damn good for competitive communities?

 

[squidhands]

You can spawn the Mechs in Forge?
I mean, I doubt they'll be much fun to use in campaign or competitive multiplayer but for crazy custom games they could be pretty awesome.

Rocketmech racing

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Rocketmech racing

RocketMech invasion stockpile!

Yay!

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

Isn't an unquestionably better core gameplay/gunplay than the past two Halo games pretty damn good for competitive communities?

Its pretty damn good for everyone

 

[Beckx]

you are just using a damn straw man argument.

That was not a straw man argument.

Rocketmech racing

I hate all of you. If this isn't a thing I'll now be disappointed in Halo 4.

 

[Sai-kun]

Living Dead/Infection, done proper Halo style.

I was so hyped when I saw this earlier. Holy crap. It's gonna be rad.

 

[Slightly Live]

That was not a straw man argument.

It really, really wasn't. Not even close, hah.

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

Maybe masterchief is really, just a mech. A mech withinin a mech. We're the machines, man, we're the machines.

 

[Gui_PT]

Getting a full zombies infection mode is nice and all, but where's my competitive ranking system?

Ranking System was dropped in favor of the new Infection mode.

They ain't got infinite resources!

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

It really, really wasn't. Not even close, hah.

doesnt benefit competitive community

"You speak for the competitive community"

You took my opinion and twisted to fit your argument without refuting my opinion.

straw man.

 

[TheOddOne]

For fuck sake go make a blog or something. Stop being such a dick.

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

Don't like my opinion, Ignore me.

 

[Poker Face]

when is the magazine supposed to actually come out? anyone know?

 

[Slightly Live]

doesnt benefit competitive community

"You speak for the competitive community"

You took my opinion and twisted to fit your argument without refuting my opinion.

straw man.

I think you are using words but yo don't know what these words mean.

Let me help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

I was simply asking you a few questions regarding the apparent stance you're taking with your previous statements, in order to ascertain your position proper before then, hopefully, addressing it with a few flippant remarks and observations.

I'll make it simple.

You are talking BS.

There's been plenty of information released that caters to this "competitive" audience you think you are championing.

 

[daedalius]

For fuck sake go make a blog or something. Stop being such a dick.

Ignore lists!

So many hidden posts...

 

[CyReN]

I want to see your competitive birth certificate.

 

[Ryaaan14]

Just got back from an amazing vacation seeing my family back in IL. I plan on reading the entire thread, but anyone feel like giving me a breakdown since Monday?

 

[GhaleonEB]

I was so hyped when I saw this earlier. Holy crap. It's gonna be rad.

A while back I said Infinity Slayer would be the most popular playlist. I may have to revise that. 0_o

So we have for game types:

Slayer (Infinity Slayer variant)
Regicide
Capture the Flag
Dominion
Flood
King of the Hill (I think?)
Oddball (Grifball variant)

Might be more coming, but it's a pretty tight list of new and reinvented game types. Cleared a lot of the clutter from the lists that had accumulated over the years, which should make for more focused playlists.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Just got back from an amazing vacation seeing my family back in IL. I plan on reading the entire thread, but anyone feel like giving me a breakdown since Monday?

I stood up OddOne for like 2 hours.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Man Halo 4 campaign looks gorgeous and I really can't wait to get my hands on Dominion. Hopefully it plays as well as it sounds.

I also really like that 343 is looking at and using "forfeit" type rules.

Ignore lists!

So many hidden posts...

Unfortunately it results in near full pages of hidden posts lately.

Don't like my opinion, Ignore me.

Thanks for the tip!

 

[Slightly Live]

I want to see your competitive birth certificate.

I'll only release my Competitive Post Game Results from 2012 back to 2011. You'll have to talk my word that before 2011 I was a proper pro, 50 in every Halo 3 playlist.

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

I want to see your competitive birth certificate.

Competitive truther

 

[squidhands]

I hate all of you. If this isn't a thing I'll now be disappointed in Halo 4.

I hope the mechs can pick things up and carry/throw them. One could conceivably make up an Infection gametype where the last man standing gets access to a mech and throw some bitches around. :-D

 

[bobs...onGaf]

So what about the Mantis in multiplayer? It looks like it's taking a starring role in at least one prime section of the game - almost assuredly meaning we'll see it in multiplayer in some limited form.

This can still happen.

What the hell am I seeing there? A frozen over Valhalla? Is that just some Halo 3 mod?

 

[CyReN]

I'll only release my Competitive Post Game Results from 2012 back to 2011. You'll have to talk my word that before 2011 I was a proper pro, 50 in every Halo 3 playlist.

Competitive truther

I love you both, simmer down<3

 

[Gui_PT]

The Internet, where being a jerk makes you look cool.

 

[Woorloog]

Firepower and Dexterity >

It's all personal preference to fit what you want to do, but I think more people are going to use Firepower than they are thinking at this point. Storm Rifle secondary is cash moneyz.

Maybe. I know i won't.
I can see how many things may play out and i can plan pretty well for many things. I'm confident in my skill, i know i will be getting ordnance drops so i will need one weapon slot for those weapons. Thus starting with another primary weapon will go waste many times, in these cases another perk is a better choice.
Of course there may very well be times when two primaries may come in handy and i will probably have at least one loadout for that (Rifle, AR/Storm Rifle, Camo, Firepower and some other perk, kind of camper build.

What the hell am I seeing there? A frozen over Valhalla? Is that just some Halo 3 mod?

Very old mod, i think it happened in 2008 or 2009 already. Just a shader swap, IIRC.

 

[Trey]

Are you arguing that randomized, however slight, mechanics in a precision weapon make it more "fun" for people?


I also find it sad that the fringe gametypes of Halo are getting more love and intelligent design than the core MP.

It allows lower skilled players to have a better chance at contending with higher skilled players at a purely shooting standpoint - analagous to AA. This eases players into the game and makes it more approachable. And the bullets are "randomized" within a visually represented area, which expands and contracts predictably.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Yeah, so is the lack of any information that benefits the Competitive Community

Chill.

 

[Shake Appeal]

The Internet, where being a jerk makes you look cool.

I've got bad news about the offline world...

 

[ViewtifulJC]

The Internet, where being a jerk makes you look cool.

Disdain is easier than enthusiasm because you can do it with a hand wave, and for some backwards reason, it has a better intellectual reputation.

It's much harder to talk about why you love something then to pick it to death.

It's also much more satisfying.

 

[NobleGundam]

The Internet, where being a jerk makes you look cool.

I've got bad news about the offline world...

Inception mode confirmed

 

[squidhands]

The Internet, where being a jerk makes you look cool.

Smoking makes you look cooler, the old movies told me so.

 

[Gui_PT]

I've got bad news about the offline world...

Oh god... don't tell me... No!

Disdain is easier than enthusiasm because you can do it with a hand wave, and for some backwards reason, it has a better intellectual reputation.

It's much harder to talk about why you love something then to pick it to death.

It's also much more satisfying.

We should all learn from that kyle guy.

Spoiler

No one learn anything from him

 

[The Librarian]

I'll only release my Competitive Post Game Results from 2012 back to 2011. You'll have to talk my word that before 2011 I was a proper pro, 50 in every Halo 3 playlist.

Mm. Joke needs to be up-to-date: "I'll only release my Competitive Post Game Results from 2012 back to 2011. You'll have to take my word that before 2011 I didn't have any secondary accounts to boost other players in ranked playlists."

Edit: Also, your 2011 Results show a high number of games in Multi-team, artificially inflating your overall K/D in MM.

 

[Trey]

Yeah, so is the lack of any information that benefits the Competitive Community

What kind of announcements did you have in mind?

 

[TheOddOne]

I stood up OddOne for like 2 hours.

It was the worst thing that happend to me that week. All was going so splendid, bird were singing, Gui was posting upskirt Willie pictures, Dani posted fiction articles, Big Bewb guy was extra nice to me and Viewtiful... still didn't get Viewtiful Joe 3. All was right in this world.

 

[thezerofire]

A question about Dominion. Say you're the team in Last Stand, and you manage to retake a base. Does everyone instantly lose their overshields and all the dead teammates respawn?

also everything looks amazing. I don't even know what to do with all my hype

 

[Amazing Mic]

I'm not saying that there will be more competitive details revealed, but is anyone honestly surprised that all these other gametypes were detailed first? Classic/competitive Halo isn't exactly going to bring in a heap-ton of new sales- that seems a pretty fixed number to me.

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

What kind of announcements did you have in mind?

Explanation of Custom game options, whether certain things are toggle-able, the explanation of Frankie's Skill based MM comment. to name a few

 

[raindoc]

According to the french magazine:

• Mech is called the Mantis, playable in campaign
• New game mode called Flood (think Infection x100)
• Flood - 2 infected players, 10 non-infected, 12 total (Flood infected Spartans shown)
• Infected players have deadly claws for melee damage and enhanced vision

1) mechs are boring.
2) having flood models for infection would be a very nice extra.

i like the new Jackal design, mostly because i'm just happy that there is a new one and the old one's gone. look at the quoted pic above - that bird has the facial expression of a screaming cartoon donkey/it looks like something created in Spore/last time i saw a face like that, i was looking at a Picasso painting/etc.

 

[Skilotonn]

I posted these in the other thread, so I'll post them here too:

These two videos are new I believe from IGN:

Halo 4 Developer Commentary: Dominion Multiplayer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avzt5YkBafM&feature=g-all-u

Halo 4 Developer Commentary: CTF Multiplayer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7I-bySScOI&feature=g-all-u

 

[DeadNames]

So how exactly does Dominion work?

Pls don't suck Halo 4.

Also, Ragnarok, you seem very entitled, along with a few others. My views on skill based ranks coming later.

 

[Stinkles]

Competitive truther

Secret Prophet of Truther.

 

[Reagan's BR]

A while back I said Infinity Slayer would be the most popular playlist. I may have to revise that. 0_o

So we have for game types:

Slayer (Infinity Slayer variant)
Regicide
Capture the Flag
Dominion
Flood
King of the Hill (I think?)
Oddball (Grifball variant)

Might be more coming, but it's a pretty tight list of new and reinvented game types. Cleared a lot of the clutter from the lists that had accumulated over the years, which should make for more focused playlists.

I hope they keep Assault, Territories, Headhunter, classic Zombies/Infection and Race!

Also I would like to see VIP return but that is doubtful (Team Regicide maybe?).

I really wish that Gen Defense from the Reach Beta would return in some form or fashion. Dominion sounds cool though. Conquest was great in Halo 3 but that mode relies on custom maps.

 

[daedalius]

Unfortunately it results in near full pages of hidden posts lately.

Its worth it, and its easy to skim past quotes.

Oh hey, more complaining about how Jackals look; I'm shocked.

 

[Slightly Live]

I'm not saying that there will be more competitive details revealed, but is anyone honestly surprised that all these other gametypes were detailed first? Classic/competitive Halo isn't exactly going to bring in a heap-ton of new sales- that seems a pretty fixed number to me.

Of course, be realistic.

I've seen the Infection playlist outpopulate every other individual playlist. It's stupid popular and it's about time it's been given proper developmental resources.

I can't stand Infection but hey, it deserves the attention.