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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed
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Those are some good questions you posed Eazy. I really do hope the grenade throwing is exactly or very similar to Halo 3's. ODST was pretty weak. About the sniper, maybe the problem isn't the sniper itself but rather everything else that makes a multiplayer match like the map design, weapon layout and starting weapons. I think Reach's fewer amount of guns is a smart thing. If there were more BR's on maps with Snipers or a BR in everyone's hand, the sniper would not be as big as a threat. Instead the maps are littered with SMG's, magnums with no range and maulers. The sniper in Halo 3 is already way nerfed from the Halo 2 one. There's basically no sweep sniping, getting headshots is more difficult (don't know the reason why, it just is lol) and the rate of fire was decreased as well. How much more can you nerf it?
There's more I wanna elaborate on but I haven't thought it all out yet. I believe these weapon "problems" are not so much about the weapons themselves but the entire game and every aspect. Halo 3 is a very very team oriented game and that seems to be forgotten sometimes. It's understandable though.
edit: Bagel I noticed you were watching me stream on JTV today. Don't be so shy next time, I'll make you a mod.
I hook HaloGAF up on my stream lol
There's more I wanna elaborate on but I haven't thought it all out yet. I believe these weapon "problems" are not so much about the weapons themselves but the entire game and every aspect. Halo 3 is a very very team oriented game and that seems to be forgotten sometimes. It's understandable though.
edit: Bagel I noticed you were watching me stream on JTV today. Don't be so shy next time, I'll make you a mod.
I hook HaloGAF up on my stream lolbobs...onGaf
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Some VERY interesting Tidbits from the ordinance pages:
The DMR "Although it saw more widespread use throughout all branches of the UNSC prior to 2548, it has since been superseded in use by the BR55 in all branches but the Army." :lol
The Plasma Pistol: "This small directed energy weapon has two modes of fire: semi-automatic direct and semi-guided AOE. The secondary AOE mode drastically reduces battery life. " - firing modes!?? very interesting
The Spirit: "It is capable of carrying up to 30 infantry and 2 vehicles" - that leads to the opportunity of some BIG scale battles!
The DMR "Although it saw more widespread use throughout all branches of the UNSC prior to 2548, it has since been superseded in use by the BR55 in all branches but the Army." :lol
The Plasma Pistol: "This small directed energy weapon has two modes of fire: semi-automatic direct and semi-guided AOE. The secondary AOE mode drastically reduces battery life. " - firing modes!?? very interesting
The Spirit: "It is capable of carrying up to 30 infantry and 2 vehicles" - that leads to the opportunity of some BIG scale battles!
Noble Team Profile #4: Jorge
So Jun will be tomorrow, then.
Also, Game Informer Reach Podcast.
So Jun will be tomorrow, then.
Also, Game Informer Reach Podcast.
It means holding down the trigger and then firing or just pressing the trigger over and over. It has been a feature of the PP since CE.bobs99 ... said:
Let me start by saying I think people are getting really carried away with this Shadowrun analogy. The reticule in Reach sounds like it'll work similar to how it's worked in Ghost Recon, RS3, and most other realistic shooters. Representing the gun's varying spread through the reticule is definitely not something unique to Shadowrun. Sure comparisons can be made between Shadowrun's rifle and the DMR but it's not that special a comparison when all single-shot rifles in realistic shooters work that way.bobs99 ... said:
Shadowrun was set up, like someone mentioned earlier, exactly like CS but you could purchase spells in addition to weapons. Much like CS you start with a little bit of money at the beginning of the game along with a base weapon (and maybe even a freebie spell) and earn credits to buy more advanced weapons and spells by the you and your team's performance. You could pick up weapons dropped by enemies but there were no weapons strewn about the map. There was no persistent character progression and everyone started from the same point each game.
I really don't see them going this route and besides the inclusion of credits (which to me seem persistent through SP,co-op, and MP) I don't see any parallels between the two games or hints that they're even looking in that direction.
BTW I loved Shadowrun.
Sounds like the same method of pumping the trigger to pepper PP shots and holding the trigger to charge the shield draining shot. The only new thing, and I think this was mentioned in the Swedish article, is the AOE. I don't think any previous PP had an AOE, it only drained the shield of the individual or vehicle directly hit by it. Little ambiguous on what AOE it may be referring to so there may be no change at all.bobs99 ... said:
electricpirate
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Syringe said:
Hey thanks for posting those
. Also, your Reach preview was my favorite, your honesty about it's visual shortcomings made me more confident about your honesty in regards to the rest of the awesome stuff going on. Are you guys planning to do more features?
So what do you all think: Jorge's massive machine gun will take you to third person, or will it have sights of some sort?
Nice. Jun's profile tomorrow.
I also had a question about something. Do the Spartan III's have the unbreakable skeleton enhancement like the Spartan II's? I can't remember.
Nice. Jun's profile tomorrow.
I also had a question about something. Do the Spartan III's have the unbreakable skeleton enhancement like the Spartan II's? I can't remember.
I know they reciever some bone ossification, but I don't knownof it was the same amount.Trasher said:So what do you all think: Jorge's massive machine gun will take you to third person, or will it have sights of some sort?
Nice. Jun's profile tomorrow.
I also had a question about something. Do the Spartan III's have the unbreakable skeleton enhancement like the Spartan II's? I can't remember.
GarthVaderUK
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duk said:
Dude, he's in your avatar.
Thagomizer
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Did they sneak that Elite render in in the last 2 hours? It definitely wasn't there the first time I looked...
EDIT: Yup.
I think that the Elite model looks better, tech wise, in Halo 3. The armor texture just seems lower-res and more dull in Reach, even though I like the design of the armor a lot more. Is it missing some specular maps or something?
EDIT: Yup.
I think that the Elite model looks better, tech wise, in Halo 3. The armor texture just seems lower-res and more dull in Reach, even though I like the design of the armor a lot more. Is it missing some specular maps or something?
carbonbased
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bbbbut they are just making minor tweaks only the pros will notice!!urk said:
GI podcast pretty tame so far. What I've collected so far from it:
Probably only play as LWG.
The skirmishers didn't have shields in what they saw. Also compared them to evil big bird. Hmm...
Duration of the powerups vary. "Sprint for like 5 seconds" while camo lasts longer.
VISR is out. So nightvision =/= VISR
Probably only play as LWG.
The skirmishers didn't have shields in what they saw. Also compared them to evil big bird. Hmm...
Duration of the powerups vary. "Sprint for like 5 seconds" while camo lasts longer.
VISR is out. So nightvision =/= VISR
Good deal. Really want to see it in action. To see if it has an AOE when don't hit an enemy or vehicle directly and play the beta to see how effective the shield draining magnitude and radius are.urk said:
DiabolicalBagel
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Elite render looks nice, is it me or does the plasma rifle look a little more squared than before?
Also...
Damn it.
Also...
Damn it.
Thagomizer
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DiabolicalBagel said:Elite render looks nice, is it me or does the plasma rifle look a little more squared than before?
Also...
Damn it.
You're reaching.
Thagomizer
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n/m.
DiabolicalBagel
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Thagomizer said:
Not really, most of it is one contiguous section of armour. No breaks in it helps for it stand out.
... It might help somewhat that I live next a shitload of deer.
But fine, I'll keep my faces to myself. First one I posted.
The Librarian
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I like it!DiabolicalBagel said:Elite render looks nice, is it me or does the plasma rifle look a little more squared than before?
Also...
Damn it.
Thagomizer
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Botolf said:
Son of Godzilla
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It looks like some Darksiders demon. I like.
NullPointer
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Yeah, nothing really to report that isn't already known except for the tiniest of details.EazyB said:
Notable to me was what wasn't spoken of:
- No word on AA or image quality directly. But detail wise they did compare the jump in graphics as similar to the jump between 2 and 3.
- No mention of motion capture whatsoever. This seems really strange to me, as I'd imagine this to be a major difference in look and feel from the previous games, and one that would be immediately apparent to anybody who got to see the game in motion. Do we have actual confirmation that characters use motion capped animations? I've only heard it directly mentioned in relation to faces.
And I still didn't get any more of an idea of how armor abilities work. At first I thought the idea was modeled more on Crysis, where you would have access to a variety of abilities, but restricted in that you could only use one at a time. More recently it sounds like something you specifically choose, and that your choice defines your role, and acts as part of the customization system.
I'd also like to know whether armor customization (outside of abilities) has any direct effect on gameplay. I could imagine Bungie using a system like Rainbow Six, where heavier armor directly limits mobility and likewise, with earned unlocks only providing different designs, so that the field stays even. But I'm not sure whether thats in the cards or not.
DiabolicalBagel
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EazyB said:
Best thing I've heard all day. Good ol' night vision.
That has me wondering if night vision would be an armor ability. So you'd always have the flashlight handy, with the ability to snag night vision. Looking at that night time mission, a natural way to mix up the gameplay would be to give the player the option of picking up a sniper rifle and night vision, or camo to sneak around in the dark doing assassinations.EazyB said:
Thagomizer
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I can't believe people don't like VISR. I thought it was amazing.
The only downside is that it was TOO useful. There was literally no reason to turn it off in low-light conditions from a gameplay perspective. I think it would be fine if it was made a little less omniscient.
The only downside is that it was TOO useful. There was literally no reason to turn it off in low-light conditions from a gameplay perspective. I think it would be fine if it was made a little less omniscient.
Syracuse022
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Sounds pretty damn sweet, especially if there are particle and sound effects making it believable (i.e. the plasma burning and searing in the wall, as Edge described it).urk said:
In the dark lit moments in ODST (which were quite plenty) there really was no reason to turn it off.Thagomizer said:
It's kind of a good thing to have night vision anyway, rather than VISR, I think.
Since Bungie added dual wielding, they did bring down the power of the guns like the Plasma Pistol, Plasma Rifle, and the Needler (though Halo 3's Needler rocked).Tashi0106 said:
With Reach having fewer actual guns, I'm thinking they'll make the Covenant weapons more powerful than before, similar to Halo: CE style. The Plasma Rifle appears to be the Elite's version of the Assault Rifle, so I'm hoping it can stun opponents and derail shields quickly. Highly doubtful they're banking on two or three weapons being the primary focus; however, instead improving previous games' armory.
WickedLaharl
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was the off center target reticule in that one screenshot explained?
NullPointer
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According to posts in the this thread it looks like the wonky reticule was explained as a bug in theater mode, used to capture those screens.