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[Slightly Live]

I didn't know that :-D

I had to Google CO and NCO.

National Childrens Orchestra of Great Britain

 

[Loxley]

I'm just praying the protagonist isn't faceless like Master Chief or silent like the Rookie (it's possible Bungie just didn't want to reveal any of that just yet, which is what I'm betting on) because that has always irked me about the protagonists thus far; there always has to be one thing missing that is keeping them from receiving any sort of empathy from me. Master Chief may as well have been a robot, and Rookie may as well have been just a number (didn't help that he was never given a real name, the main fucking character).

Bungie has a knack for making the supporting characters more interesting than the one you're playing (personally I found Arbiter to be a much more enduring character than Chief ever was, for example). I've read The Fall of Reach, and I was always a little disappointed that the games never indulged to Master Chief's past (or even so much as vaguely mentioned it). Ah well, if you don't play as MC in Reach, I'll bet he'll show up at some point in cameo form (we need to see him

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Fall of Reach reference incoming:

punch a goddamn missile )

 

[Magni]

Bungie is going to have one hell of a time convincing casual players you are not the master cheif. He'll need a definite name that is repeated frequently throughout the game, even if it's just a number or rank. If people know they're playing as an unnamed spartan just before halo CE, they'll assume you're the MC. Even better would be at least one cameo of 117. Let us see him, identify him, and let it be known we are separate. Anybody steeped in the fiction would know that the player character isn't the same as in the trilogy, but we are a niche audience.

For some reason this irks me as much as your/you're//their/they're[tired, it's the end of the week DA :lol ]/there//its/it's and 'would of' :lol

Opening gameplay sequence, first time shield depleted:
Carter: "What the fuck Noble Six, you think you're Master Chief or something? Get your ass down and stop the lone wolf bullshit!"

 

[vhfive]

:lol :lol :lol
are you guys really upset because someone got confused about halo fiction. seriously most people don't rewatch trailers over and over again. they see a spartan and they see the word halo and they assume its master chief is that really so hard to believe. so the guy made a mistake he wasn't the first and most definitely isn't the last.
face it halogaf he represents what most people think about halo reach right now and if you're going to have a fit every time someone confuses halo lore then i pity you.

 

[Slightly Live]

For some reason this irks me as much as your/you're//their/there/there//its/it's and 'would of' :lol

Opening gameplay sequence, first time shield depleted:
Carter: "What the fuck Noble Six, you think you're Master Chief or something? Get your ass down and stop the lone wolf bullshit!"
*Camera cuts to LW*
LW: "Nope, but the hand of God that's controlling me has been controlling Master Chief for a decade and he can't seem to realise I'm not the Chief. You guys may as well sit back and let me handle everything, otherwise the pla.. I'll continue with these antics. Oh shit, I'm suppose to be a silent character. Ah well, dialogue in the shooter genre is usually grossly overlooked or ignored."

Hmm...

Even if Reach started with a Star Wars scroll with the line "You are not playing as Master Chief" copied and pasted a few dozen times, you will still find folks that are clueless. That's the problem with mass media, it's consumed by various folks.

It just happens that some of those folks can follow along with the game and there will be others that are struggling to come to terms with how the magic picture moves when he presses the coloured non-eatible candy on his adult rattler.

Parents have been buying "those Nintendos" for their kids for a long time...

 

[XenoRaven]

:lol :lol :lol
are you guys really upset because someone got confused about halo fiction. seriously most people don't rewatch trailers over and over again. they see a spartan and they see the word halo and they assume its master chief is that really so hard to believe. so the guy made a mistake he wasn't the first and most definitely isn't the last.
face it halogaf he represents what most people think about halo reach right now and if you're going to have a fit every time someone confuses halo lore then i pity you.

Right. I love going to news organizations that know just as much or less about a particular topic than I do.

Even if Reach started with a Star Wars scroll with the line "You are not playing as Master Chief" copied and pasted a few dozen times

Plleeeeeaaaase make this happen!

 

[Flipyap]

Also, Garnett didn't even seem to know or care about the name of "Halo's Spartan", let alone know that Master Chief is a Non Commissioned Officer rank.

He knows that Halo is a pretty cool guy, and that's enough.

:lol :lol :lol
are you guys really upset because someone got confused about halo fiction. seriously most people don't rewatch trailers over and over again. they see a spartan and they see the word halo and they assume its master chief is that really so hard to believe. so the guy made a mistake he wasn't the first and most definitely isn't the last.
face it halogaf he represents what most people think about halo reach right now and if you're going to have a fit every time someone confuses halo lore then i pity you.

Who's upset or having fits?

 

[squidhands]

For some reason this irks me as much as your/you're//their/there/there//its/it's and 'would of' :lol

 

[DiabolicalBagel]

I feel your pain.

Spoiler

Marine's shoulder. It's epic.

It's not our fault we see faces in everything.

Another one:

Spoiler

same picture: disgruntled cyclops on helmet

Also... can we watch CE yet?

 

[feel]

According to the book, what is master chief doing around the time this game will take place? I really want to see a cameo, that would be nerdgasm total... and that green shiny MarkV should look stunning in the Reach engine.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

According to the book, what is master chief doing around the time this game will take place? I really want to see a cameo, that would be nerdgasm total... and that green shiny MarkV should looking stunning in the Reach engine.

In Space above Reach. Losing.

 

[Slightly Live]

According to the book, what is master chief doing around the time this game will take place? I really want to see a cameo, that would be nerdgasm total... and that green shiny MarkV should looking stunning in the Reach engine.

Getting ready for a mission deep into Covenant space to kidnap a Prophet in attempt to negotiate an end to the war. The invasion fleet comes and the mission is scrubbed. UNSC loses so badly only the Autumn escapes, with Covenant in hot pursuit.

They could almost make a game out of what happens next..

 

[Gui_PT]

It's not our fault we see faces in everything.

Another one:

Spoiler

same picture: disgruntled cyclops on helmet

Also... can we watch CE yet?

Yeah, stream time now!

And take a look the knee on the same picture

It's some sort of mechanical fish

 

[XenoRaven]

According to the book, what is master chief doing around the time this game will take place? I really want to see a cameo, that would be nerdgasm total... and that green shiny MarkV should looking stunning in the Reach engine.

He's in space, orbitting Reach.

Spoiler

I forget the name of the female SPARTAN that was with him, but I heard she ended up living after floating off into space somewhere. Could someone more well-versed in Halo fiction confirm or deny?

 

[scently]

If the casual players thinks the LWG is the master chief, it doesn't really matter.
Actually it would help sell the game better.

 

[Slightly Live]

Yeah, stream time now!

Que? What's going on?

Spoiler

I forget the name of the female SPARTAN that was with him, but I heard she ended up living after floating off into space somewhere. Could someone more well-versed in Halo fiction confirm or deny?

She survives.

 

[DiabolicalBagel]

Que? What's going on?

Bladed was streaming his playthrough of CE the other day, he has yet to take it up again.


Like us, his connection was being terrible. Terrible connections for all Atlanteans! Apart from the Swedish, the Danes, the Norweigans, Finnish etc.

 

[Slightly Live]

Bladed was streaming his playthrough of CE the other day, he has yet to take it up again.

A I C

Sounds fun, hope he continues it then.

 

[Gui_PT]

She survives.

Didn't she snipe an Elite that was driving a Banshee?

Kickass

 

[Kibbles]

Wow saw the GTTV segment, everyone is trashing Reach because of ODST =\ Some of my more casual friends seem to think it'll be another ODST as well.

 

[Slightly Live]

Didn't she snipe an Elite that was driving a Banshee?

Kickass

Whilst upside down, with one arm holding the gun, with no light, with a itch she couldn't scratch and on her period. Multiple times.

 

[Flipyap]

Bladed was streaming his playthrough of CE the other day, he has yet to take it up again.


Like us, his connection was being terrible. Terrible connections for all Atlanteans! Apart from the Swedish, the Danes, the Norweigans, Finnish etc.

Okay. I wasn't going to say anything, but it's getting seriously distracting. Can your Crysis ODST dude's crotch possibly be any more prominent?

...on second thought

 

[Gui_PT]

Whilst upside down, with one arm holding the gun, with no light, with a itch she couldn't scratch and on her period. Multiple times.

That's just wrong =\

Okay. I wasn't going to say anything, but it's getting seriously distracting. Can your Crysis ODST dude's crotch possibly be any more prominent?

...on second thought

What the hell is wrong with you?!

First the faces and now crotches?
:lol

 

[Blueblur1]

Wow saw the GTTV segment, everyone is trashing Reach because of ODST =\ Some of my more casual friends seem to think it'll be another ODST as well.

I was surprised by that but it is possible. I'm sure that this is the kind of thing that cause developers to grind their teeth (or gears). Maybe they should have called the game "Halo Zero."

 

[GhaleonEB]

:lol :lol :lol
are you guys really upset because someone got confused about halo fiction. seriously most people don't rewatch trailers over and over again. they see a spartan and they see the word halo and they assume its master chief is that really so hard to believe. so the guy made a mistake he wasn't the first and most definitely isn't the last.

face it halogaf he represents what most people think about halo reach right now and if you're going to have a fit every time someone confuses halo lore then i pity you.

Pretty much this, though I don't think many were actually upset about it. I think the casual player being both confused by who that dude behind the very similar helmet is and being disappointed by ODST is pretty reasonable. Now, I haven't listened to the show or seen who else was on it, but I'd hope that a journalist talking on some program would have an idea why Reach is a different project from ODST (which really was an oddball project for Bungie), and that the protagonists between the games are different. But it's more something to be amused by as anything.

 

[Falagard]

:lol :lol :lol
are you guys really upset because someone got confused about halo fiction. seriously most people don't rewatch trailers over and over again. they see a spartan and they see the word halo and they assume its master chief is that really so hard to believe. so the guy made a mistake he wasn't the first and most definitely isn't the last.
face it halogaf he represents what most people think about halo reach right now and if you're going to have a fit every time someone confuses halo lore then i pity you.

Haha. Well I think his misunderstanding about the main character in Reach being the Master Chief is probably going to be echoed by a large percentage of gamers. However, he is a games journalist, not a regular gamer, and Halo is one of the top game franchises.

 

[Slightly Live]

"Halo Reach has 6 Master Chiefs, so it's like Halo 6."

 

[Kapura]

Sorry for misspelling "chief." I generally try to proofread, but I'm rocking GAF on the iPod. Apple makes it difficult to make changes, so I forgo that step away from home.

The more I think about it, the more it seems like the real solution is to see and interact with the Master Chief from the Lt's perspective. Or, alternatively, Bungie could go with the "fuck it" approach and leave it for people who pay a modicum of attention to cutscenes to figure out.

 

[BladedExpert]

A I C

Sounds fun, hope he continues it then.

I would stream but I have a few friends I'm playing Halo 3 with right now. Doesn't happen very often :lol

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Wow saw the GTTV segment, everyone is trashing Reach because of ODST =\ Some of my more casual friends seem to think it'll be another ODST as well.

That is something I find funny, just means in 9 months when they realize it is a full fledged game they will be changing their stories.

 

[Gui_PT]

I would stream but I have a few friends I'm playing Halo 3 with right now. Doesn't happen very often :lol

Stream that!

 

[NullPointer]

Pretty much this, though I don't think many were actually upset about it. I think the casual player being both confused by who that dude behind the very similar helmet is and being disappointed by ODST is pretty reasonable. Now, I haven't listened to the show or seen who else was on it, but I'd hope that a journalist talking on some program would have an idea why Reach is different project from ODST (which really was an oddball project for Bungie), and that the protagonists between the games are different. But it's more something to be amused by as anything.

And here's is where ODST's marketing and price structure rear their ugly heads up and cause some more problems*. If you charge full price, its *not* an expansion, and its not really a good move to mention that it was made by a B team as a side project either. It may have diluted the brand for some of the mainstream audience, just when all the modern day shooters are reaching their ascendancy.

* And by "cause more problems" I mean as much problems as a gnat punching a freight train. By the time the Reach launch rolls around nobody is going to know what the hell an ODST ever was. All eyes will be on Reach.

 

[Slightly Live]

Sorry for misspelling "chief." I generally try to proofread, but I'm rocking GAF on the iPod. Apple makes it difficult to make changes, so I forgo that step away from home.

The more I think about it, the more it seems like the real solution is to see and interact with the Master Chief from the Lt's perspective. Or, alternatively, Bungie could go with the "fuck it" approach and leave it for people who pay a modicum of attention to cutscenes to figure out.

I know some folks that were annoyed as they thought the opening cut-scenes in Halo 2 were building up the Arbiter as some kind of ultimate badass Elite villain that would attempt to hunt you down throughout the game and Master Chief would eventually fight...

:lol

 

[DiabolicalBagel]

Okay. I wasn't going to say anything, but it's getting seriously distracting. Can your Crysis ODST dude's crotch possibly be any more prominent?

...on second thought

:lol :lol :lol
I think I might upgrade to this now. Thanks, Flipyap.

 

[Kapura]

I know some folks that were annoyed as they thought the opening cut-scenes in Halo 2 were building up the Arbiter as some kind of ultimate badass Elite villain that would attempt to hunt you down throughout the game and Master Chief would eventually fight...

:lol

That would have been like six times as awesome. Rotating between characters, but having to kill one of the player characters with the other. Of all of the highest tier villains throughout the game, you kill one prophet, Tartarus, and Spark at the end. Playing as a bad dude could flesh the character out a lot more, and then killing him would be a delicious twist.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Quick question. Arent we due for a ViDoc sometime here? I could have sword one was mentioned about the making of the VGA trailer, but maybe I'm just crazy.

 

[Hydranockz]

I would stream but I have a few friends I'm playing Halo 3 with right now. Doesn't happen very often :lol

Can't say I don't want to see that.

I am loving the accuracy fluctuations on the weapons. Has it been confirmed for all of them or just a few?

 

[Ramirez]

:lol :lol :lol
are you guys really upset because someone got confused about halo fiction. seriously most people don't rewatch trailers over and over again. they see a spartan and they see the word halo and they assume its master chief is that really so hard to believe. so the guy made a mistake he wasn't the first and most definitely isn't the last.
face it halogaf he represents what most people think about halo reach right now and if you're going to have a fit every time someone confuses halo lore then i pity you.

It's his job to be informed, I won't have a fit, but he's not doing gaming journalism any favors.

 

[ZZMitch]

Has there been any multiplayer info these last few days? Bungie said they were gunna do something this week in the weekly update last week if I recall correctly...

 

[EazyB]

Wow saw the GTTV segment, everyone is trashing Reach because of ODST =\ Some of my more casual friends seem to think it'll be another ODST as well.

Speaking to the momentum of the franchise I'd have to guess that Halo Wars and ODST probably did more harm than good. To elaborate I think those two games being the last two Halo games released has lowered some people's expectations for future Halo titles and I'd be very surprised if even the slightest minority enjoyed Wars and/or ODST more than 3. Of course I'm speaking of the collective hype of the Halo playerbase. The hardcore know Wars wasn't a Bungie title and shouldn't factor into one's expectations for Reach and ODST was more an expansion than a full scale Bungie Halo release while Reach is on a whole different level. Casual players will have a varying degree of this knowledge so their anticipation for Reach could be colored differently.

I want to make it clear that I'm talking about the current hype for the game and that many things (most importantly the beta) could bring that hype up to where it would've been regardless of the latest two games.

It's his job to be informed, I won't have a fit, but he's not doing gaming journalism any favors.

It's more enthusiast press than journalism. I don't think any of the Giant Bomb guys would argue against that.

 

[Kibbles]

Quick question. Arent we due for a ViDoc sometime here? I could have sword one was mentioned about the making of the VGA trailer, but maybe I'm just crazy.

I thought I remember it being mentioned in a weekly update, but due to the embargo they couldn't get it out. The embargo is up now though, isn't it?

 

[scently]

Speaking to the momentum of the franchise I'd have to guess that Halo Wars and ODST probably did more harm than good. To elaborate I think those two games being the last two Halo games released has lowered some people's expectations for future Halo titles and I'd be very surprised if even the slightest minority enjoyed Wars and/or ODST more than 3. Of course I'm speaking of the collective hype of the Halo playerbase. The hardcore know Wars wasn't a Bungie title and shouldn't factor into one's expectations for Reach and ODST was more an expansion than a full scale Bungie Halo release while Reach is on a whole different level. Casual players will have a varying degree of this knowledge so their anticipation for Reach could be colored differently.

I want to make it clear that I'm talking about the current hype for the game and that many things (most importantly the beta) could bring that hype up to where it would've been regardless of the latest two games.


It's more enthusiast press than journalism. I don't think any of the Giant Bomb guys would argue against that.

I agree with you for the most part, but I think Microsoft is going to launch a massive scale marketing push behind this one.
According to Frankie, in his interview on teamxbox, its going to have their biggest marketing budget yet.
So i wouldn't worry too much.

 

[duk]

every single time i swear, there are halo naysayers and then each game is a mega blockbuster and shuts them up just for a bit

 

[EazyB]

I agree with you for the most part, but I think Microsoft is going to launch a massive scale marketing push behind this one.
According to Frankie, in his interview on teamxbox, its going to have their biggest marketing budget yet.
So i wouldn't worry too much.

Oh, I'm not worried a bit. Like I said perception will changes based on things like the beta and further media coverage not to mention MS's marketing which has always been great for Halo games. I was just trying to explain why some might think Reach isn't as hyped as previous Halo games or be as hyped for this Halo release as they would be for others. Even then, if it wasn't for my desire for Bungie to be successful as long as they deliver games I enjoy I wouldn't care if Reach lights up the sales charts.

 

[MirageDwarf]

I'm totally out of loop from Halo: Reach updates but I want this twist in the end.

All 4 team members (or 6, don't remember) are fighting against enormous odds before final mission. They will fall if they don't get reinforcement. The Camera pans out and there comes reinforcement lead by Master Chief. Eventually all 4 team members die. And you play final mission as Master Chief.

 

[Ramirez]

It's more enthusiast press than journalism. I don't think any of the Giant Bomb guys would argue against that.

Um, it's still their job, they get paid to do it. Five minutes of research could have solved that problem in the first place.

Also Eazy, you must d/l the BC2 demo and join me, trasher, and blood in March with the full retail purchase.

 

[Kapura]

every single time i swear, there are halo naysayers and then each game is a mega blockbuster and shuts them up just for a bit

 

[Domino Theory]

Oh, I'm not worried a bit. Like I said perception will changes based on things like the beta and further media coverage not to mention MS's marketing which has always been great for Halo games. I was just trying to explain why some might think Reach isn't as hyped as previous Halo games or be as hyped for this Halo release as they would be for others. Even then, if it wasn't for my desire for Bungie to be successful as long as they deliver games I enjoy I wouldn't care if Reach lights up the sales charts.

I think the mere fact that they announced a Multiplayer Beta right when the game itself was announced reassured a lot of the fans that it'll be the next big Halo and not another ODST. We'll see, I guess.

Also, BC2 demo is sweet, good thing I have it pre-ordered. They fixed a lot of the shit that was wrong with the first BC.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Speaking to the momentum of the franchise I'd have to guess that Halo Wars and ODST probably did more harm than good. To elaborate I think those two games being the last two Halo games released has lowered some people's expectations for future Halo titles and I'd be very surprised if even the slightest minority enjoyed Wars and/or ODST more than 3. Of course I'm speaking of the collective hype of the Halo playerbase. The hardcore know Wars wasn't a Bungie title and shouldn't factor into one's expectations for Reach and ODST was more an expansion than a full scale Bungie Halo release while Reach is on a whole different level. Casual players will have a varying degree of this knowledge so their anticipation for Reach could be colored differently.

I want to make it clear that I'm talking about the current hype for the game and that many things (most importantly the beta) could bring that hype up to where it would've been regardless of the latest two games.

Well said. I think it's quote fortuitous that Reach will have a (apparently pretty meaty) public Beta, so it can speak for itself and get out from under the the shadow of the last two games.

 

[EazyB]

Also Eazy, you must d/l the BC2 demo and join me, trasher, and blood in March with the full retail purchase.

Queued it up a while ago. Just starting ME2 though so it'll be a while.