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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed
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Stormtrooper30
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Gui_PT said:
EFNet Bungie. get it right bitches.
electricpirate
Member
Arnie said:
If I remember correctly, CE's weapon's aren't hitscan either, you have to lead the shots at long ranges. The bullets may be signifigantly faster than those in Halo 3 though.
Don't remind me about the auctions.big ander said:
I'm depressed because I wasn't able to even bid on the painting, AND it went for just half of what some sad fool gave for an awful Jessica Chobot photo on a big-ass sheet of metal (someone gave $1,276 for that thing! Why would anyone want that?! There's clearly something very wrong with humanity).
Oh, and if you don't mind, I'd like to suggest a little avatar clean up:
Zeouterlimits
Member
What kind of experiments were Dharma doing at "The Oonsk Station"?
Somewhat OT -- but some friends who work for Wink Cupcakes in Seattle put together some fondant cupcakes/cakes inspired by Reach and the Superintendent from ODST
Link: Assortment of Geeks: Wink Cupcakes - You Had Me at Halo
Link: Assortment of Geeks: Wink Cupcakes - You Had Me at Halo
DiabolicalBagel
Member
Gui_PT said:
Yeah, they knew everything. It was too much knowledge, leet and AI for me to handle.
Halo: Reach weapon sounds basic analysis
Sniper Rifle
Assault Rifle
DMR
Frag grenade
Plasma Grenade
Mystery weapon (Skill Cannon)
Observations/Hypotheses
All weapons sound like they have more thud than the Halo 3 sandbox. They don't sound too unexpected, however, so people can easily tell them apart and relate them to the sounds they've heard in previous Halos (Cept the two new weapons, of course). The sounds sound like they were captured in a valley of some sort; there is noticeable echo for all sounds.
Regarding the Skill Cannon, it seems that it has at least three stages to it's firing sound: Arming, Firing, and Landing. Four distinct clicks, thuds, or detonations can be heard in each. The loading of the first round takes more time than the loading of the next three, perhaps it is like overcharging a plasma pistol: The longer you hold the trigger, the more rounds you get. If we assume this is a "heavy" weapon, that means that you could fire a single shot at a foot mobile, but more for, say, shooting down a Falcon. It is almost certainly covenant. Even ignoring the information of Mr. Morello's, the beeps and charging sound sound more alien than what we are used to in game. The thought of it being a needle-cannon seems very likely, as Sage seems to be re-emphasizing how different the Needler is than other video game weapons (see: Beardcast). It fires, impacts, and then has a detonation for each shard, however, so there is no supercombine (that we can hear). The detonations are seemingly semi-random from the time of impact, as the impacts are regular, the detonations are not. Almost certainly anti-vehicle with the sound of those detonations, clearly overpowered. Nerf it for the beta.
Sniper Rifle
- Four shots fired from each clip
- Minimum time between each round: 0.8 metric seconds
- Reload time: ~0.7-0.8 metric seconds
- Zoom sound similar to that found in previous games
- Sounds OP. Nerf it for the beta.
Assault Rifle
- Noticeably slower fire rate than in Halo: CE
- Similar rate to Halo 3
- Reload time: ~1 metric second, seems longer than in Halo 3
- Noticeably boomier, clips also sounded like they had more weight.
- Sounds OP. Nerf it for the beta.
DMR
- Minimum of 0.4 imperial seconds between shots
- Between 1.4 and 1.5 imperial seconds for reload
- Quieter reload than other weapons
- Sounds about halfway between the bassy AR and the nu sniper rifle.
- Sounds OP. Nerf it for the beta.
Frag grenade
- More of a thudding sound than the pew sound of the previous frags
- Minimum of between 1.6 and 1.7 metric seconds between detonation
- Assuming maximum throw speed, time between throws increased significantly
- 4 frags thrown. Make of it what you will.
- Sounds OP. Nerf it for the beta.
Plasma Grenade
- About 0.95 imperial seconds from stick to detonation
- Again, much more bassy than earlier counterparts
- Interestingly, the second and third sticks out of the three are noticeably louder on the left channel than the right
- Halo 3 had a specific click where you can hear the stick, this is absent. Then again, the click could only usually by being stuck
- Sounds OP. Nerf it for the beta.
Mystery weapon (Skill Cannon)
- First second: Weapon being brought to bear
-Distinct beep, possibly (probably) Covenant
-Comparable sound to the Spartan Laser's opening up - First second of "arming" contains Spartan Laser-like charge noise
- After that, there are three small "plink" noises
- ~0.5 metric seconds apart
-Last one sounding less "plinky" that the others - Continuing charging noise for ~1.8 more seconds
-Last 0.4 seconds of this charge contain three quick beeps - Next second contains what sounds like four rocket-like projectiles being fired
-Fired two round bursts - Next come what sounds like the four rounds hitting the ground, appx. .35 metric seconds apart
-From the time the first "lands" to the time the first "detonates," there are five wave-like beeping sounds - All four detonations are heard in about a second, similar to the time frame in which they are fired
-Minimum time from det to det: 0.3 metric seconds
-Wave beeps continue until just after the third detonation - Detonations kinda sound like the frag grenade, that is to say, lots of thud
- Sounds OP. Nerf it for the beta.
Observations/Hypotheses
All weapons sound like they have more thud than the Halo 3 sandbox. They don't sound too unexpected, however, so people can easily tell them apart and relate them to the sounds they've heard in previous Halos (Cept the two new weapons, of course). The sounds sound like they were captured in a valley of some sort; there is noticeable echo for all sounds.
Regarding the Skill Cannon, it seems that it has at least three stages to it's firing sound: Arming, Firing, and Landing. Four distinct clicks, thuds, or detonations can be heard in each. The loading of the first round takes more time than the loading of the next three, perhaps it is like overcharging a plasma pistol: The longer you hold the trigger, the more rounds you get. If we assume this is a "heavy" weapon, that means that you could fire a single shot at a foot mobile, but more for, say, shooting down a Falcon. It is almost certainly covenant. Even ignoring the information of Mr. Morello's, the beeps and charging sound sound more alien than what we are used to in game. The thought of it being a needle-cannon seems very likely, as Sage seems to be re-emphasizing how different the Needler is than other video game weapons (see: Beardcast). It fires, impacts, and then has a detonation for each shard, however, so there is no supercombine (that we can hear). The detonations are seemingly semi-random from the time of impact, as the impacts are regular, the detonations are not. Almost certainly anti-vehicle with the sound of those detonations, clearly overpowered. Nerf it for the beta.
StriKeVillain
Banned
Wow, that is some hardcore nerd analysis. I'm glad the guns actually sound like guns now.
The Librarian
Banned
Why are all the guns over-powered and should be nerfed for the beta?
Mr Vociferous
Member
Folks should only ever nerf things made for kids between the ages of four and eight. ;-)Kapura said:
H3 Beta Carbine RIP, 2007-2007.
It was a joke about the last podcast, where they talked about guns SOUNDING like they might have to be nerfed. I'm well aware that bungie knows how to balance the weapons (cept the beta carbine, RIP). I can't wait to get my hands on them and then be disappointed at the AR being hitscan and nerd rage all over HaloGAF.Gui_PT said:
That was actual analysis of the weapons, but the last bullet was the joke.Gui_PT said:I wasn't sure if it was a joke. Dunno why someone would write such a long and repetitive post and making it not unfunny =\
I'm tiurd, I'm getting old. Will try re-reading your post tomorrow
DiabolicalBagel
Member
I liked the imperial/metric seconds. Class.
randomlyrossy
Member
Will the Legendary edition of Reach come with extra AIs? If it doesn't come with at least 10 extra then no sale.
Or could just send you some Big Bird paraphernalia if you prefer...EazyB said:
It's a difficult conversion to be sure, but I needed to represent the sounds accurately. Sometimes I just need to use a real, manly, Amurrican second over the more accepted Communist seconds.DiabolicalBagel said:
OT question for the HaloGAF crew: I need a new game. I'm thinking Fallout 3, but I'm hearing lots of good stuff about Mass Effect 2. I played one hour of Mass Effect and decided I needed to stop playing Mass Effect, stat. But I've read ME2 plays a lot better.
So not having played through any Fallout games, or the first Mass Effect, which would I be more lost in, ME2 or Fallout 3? Any recommendation in general of one over the other?
So not having played through any Fallout games, or the first Mass Effect, which would I be more lost in, ME2 or Fallout 3? Any recommendation in general of one over the other?
I'm replaying that game right now before I start ME2, and it's brilliant for the most part. Why didn't you like it? Was because of the less than perfect combat, Mako exploration bored you? Quiting that game at 1 hour seems crazy, you need to give it a chance for the universe and lore to grab you. But anyways, for Fallout 3 you don't need to play the previous one, and it's a fantastic game. Playing ME2 without finishing (or liking) ME1, isn't right I think.GhaleonEB said:
Personally found Fallout 3 to be completely boring, but you don't need any background knowledge.GhaleonEB said:
Mass Effect 2 refers back to the original quite often, but if you just read a plot overview you should be ok. Is there a reason you didn't like Mass Effect 1? A lot of stuff hasn't change at all, other stuff has been simplified/removed and pretty much everything else is improved. Combat and technical issues are probably the most improved though.
Also Mass Effect 1 takes more than an hour to warm up. I pretty nearly quit early on and it ended up being one of my favorites this gen.
Heh. I didn't like ME because it was an RPG trying to be a shooter, but in my (brief) encounter with it I thought it failed utterly at both. Everything from the UI to the loading to the controls were clunky and poorly designed. It just felt amateurish and incredibly unintuitive to play.Sean P. said:
Thanks for the recommendations guys. I really didn't want to wade into the ME2 thread at this point and ask that question. :lol