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Hardwired...to Self Destruct - New Metallica album - Live concert on Metallica.com

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There are Metallica fans who HATES the black album. I mean wtf
There are major differences in songwriting and feel between the Black album and what came before it

Just because it still sounds like Metallica playing it doesn't mean it's going to click with fans. Whining about "they sold out" is useless but that's different from just not liking it

Interested in hearing Spit Out The Bone, I imagine the rest will meet expectations but I'm intrigued by impressions here. Friends if I hear this and it's some weak shit I'm going to be very disappointed
 
Spin mag apparently rated it pretty low. And called Orion and Disposable filler lol

This is a crime.

edit: Confusion is really fucking great. I love it. Probably the "Leper Messiah" of this album. Underrated.

And Spit out the Bone is one of my favorite Metallica songs ever. This song is ...I have no words...the solo...the riffs...
 
Spit out the bone....

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WOW. That's the shit I wanna hear out of metallica. Definitely my favorite song from the album.
 
Spit out the bone....

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WOW. That's the shit I wanna hear out of metallica. Definitely my favorite song from the album.

I can't decide between SOTB and Halo on Fire. The last two minutes of Halo on fire are probably the best thing they've written since the melodic part in MOP (the song).

edit: Watch this gif while you hear the intro of confusion, lol (the main riff)
 

zerotol

Banned
Had a chance to listen a bit more. I think there's 4 good songs on this album, the rest are pretty forgettable to me.

I like hardwired, atlas rise, moth and spit out the bone. I'm probably the only person that thinks the title track is the best song on this record, even though it has a dumb chorus. Spit out the bone might be the most inspired thing they've recorded in years.
 
Had a chance to listen a bit more. I think there's 4 good songs on this album, the rest are pretty forgettable to me.

I like hardwired, atlas rise, moth and spit out the bone. I'm probably the only person that thinks the title track is the best song on this record, even though it has a dumb chorus. Spit out the bone might be the most inspired thing they've recorded in years.

Heh, I think Hardwired is the worst song of this album. That doesn't mean it's bad. I really like it but the rest is so damn good.

Opinions, of course.
 

zerotol

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Heh, I think Hardwired is the worst song of this album. That doesn't mean it's bad. I really like it but the rest is so damn good.

Opinions, of course.


For what it's worth, I don't consider it a bad album. If the whole record was more in the vein of the title track and SOTB, I'd probably love it. I haven't really liked much of what they've done since Justice though. But like I said, SOTB brings a glimmer of their glory days and is great to hear.
 
I'm kinda happy that it's mostly mid tempo. It helps set it apart from DM and their early stuff and its weight sets it apart from Load/Reload, all of the riffs are great but if there's anything I feel it lacks are any huge wow moments, its almost too straightforward overall but I think this is more of a Kirk thing. No mind blowing solos, but James really shines here both vocally and rhythmically. Outside of Hardwired, the lyrics are pretty decent and inoffensive. No "make ya more strong" moments. After giving it a few runs, the only song I can't get into is ManUNkind, it's too jumpy. Now That We're Dead is feeling a bit better to me too.

Overall solid record. As of right now. For me.
First three>>AJfA>HTSD>DM=Black>Load/Reload>St.Anger
 
For what it's worth, I don't consider it a bad album. If the whole record was more in the vein of the title track and SOTB, I'd probably love it. I haven't really liked much of what they've done since Justice though. But like I said, SOTB brings a glimmer of their glory days and is great to hear.

That might be it. The whole album sounds like Load and Reload (James voice, the wah wah, the groove, etc) and a mix of MOP (Spit out the Bone) and Black album.
Hardwired sounds like it would fit on KEA, imo. No melodies, just straight to the point...like Whiplash. Very simple, short ...but good.

I can see why they decided to put Hardwire first and SOTB last. Everything between is 90's Metallica. If you don't like 90' Metallica you're probably just loving Hardwired an Spit out the Bone.


I'm kinda happy that it's mostly mid tempo. It helps set it apart from DM and their early stuff and its weight sets it apart from Load/Reload, all of the riffs are great but if there's anything I feel it lacks are any huge wow moments, its almost too straightforward overall but I think this is more of a Kirk thing. No mind blowing solos, but James really shines here both vocally and rhythmically. Outside of Hardwired, the lyrics are pretty decent and inoffensive. No "make ya more strong" moments. After giving it a few runs, the only song I can't get into is ManUNkind, it's too jumpy. Now That We're Dead is feeling a bit better to me too.

Overall solid record. As of right now. For me.
First three>>AJfA>HTSD>DM=Black>Load/Reload>St.Anger

I thought the same at first but after a few more listenings I have to admit that there are great solos by Kirk. Halo on fire and Spit out the Bone for example (of course). But he does some cool melodic stuff similar to Load/ Reload. It's not his best work of course. I love both songs btw (ManUNkind and Now that we're dead).
 
That might be it. The whole album sounds like Load and Reload (James voice, the wah wah, the groove, etc) and a mix of MOP (Spit out the Bone) and Black album.
Hardwired sounds like it would fit on KEA, imo. No melodies, just straight to the point...like Whiplash. Very simple, short ...but good.

I can see why they decided to put Hardwire first and SOTB last. Everything between is 90's Metallica. If you don't like 90' Metallica you're probably just loving Hardwired an Spit out the Bone.




I thought the same at first but after a few more listenings I have to admit that there are great solos by Kirk. Halo on fire and Spit out the Bone for example (of course). But he does some cool melodic stuff similar to Load/ Reload. It's not his best work of course. I love both songs btw (ManUNkind and Now that we're dead).

His leads and harmonies are good and he definitely has some good solos, but nothing blows my mind. Love Halo On Fire though, definitely one of the best things they've ever done and I like Now That We're Dead and parts of ManUNkind but it's too jumpy.
 
Now that We're Dead gives me some Unforgiven II vibes btw. This is pure Reload. It's like they said "Let's make something that fits on Reload".

edit: I still don't know what to think about Am I Savage though.
 

Formless

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I think the lyrics/vocals on the album are really nice. Kirk...not his greatest stuff with only a few great moments. Riffs are all big and meaty.

Disc 1 is definitely more bouncy and outside of Hardwired it's all good stuff (Now That We're Dead grew on me).

I was expecting more from disc 2 but I'll have to listen to it more. Most of the songs there occupy that weird Metallica space where it's midtempo and not-quite-thrash/doom/bluesy-hard rock/progressive. As a guitarist the riffs are good but not interesting or varied enough to justify such long song lengths (and I liked Death Magnetic).

Confusion is fine. It's like a long Alice in Chains song and it could use some more creepy leads.

ManUNkind's intro is beautiful but the rest of the song is alright. I see what they were trying to do with the weird solo but Kirk's current improvising range isn't very wide.

Here Comes Revenge is a nice arena metal song. It lacks the grand-ness that the early albums had though.

Am I Savage's latter half riff is brutal and I wish the song was more built around it.

Murder One is probably the worst song of the album for me.

Spit Out the Bone is good but it really could've done with some more creative leads. It feels like a Megadeth song but without a lead guitarist to make it juicy.
 
I love how everyone has different favorite songs...that means the album is great. Murder One...I love it ^^
Yeah I was talking with a friend and said confusion, murder One and ManUNkind were the weakest only to have him tell me they were the best, I've heard another call confusion a 10/10.

As for it being like reload, eh that's a bit too far imo.
It's more like a heavier black album. Feels like it bridges the gap between justice and black.
 
Yeah I was talking with a friend and said confusion, murder One and ManUNkind were the weakest only to have him tell me they were the best, I've heard another call confusion a 10/10.

As for it being like reload, eh that's a bit too far imo.
It's more like a heavier black album. Feels like it bridges the gap between justice and black.

That's what I meant ^^. For me this is the gap between Black and Load. :p

And Confusion is a 9/10 :p The melodic verse is just fantastic.

edit: And oh..by "pure Reload" I was talking about Now That We're Dead. Not the whole album.
 
Hardwired...for Hot Takes

Disc One
Hardwired - Liked it when they first released, still do
Atlas, Rise - Much more favorable impression of it than when I first heard it, enjoyed it
Now That We're Dead - Yo fuck this, garbage
Moth Into Flame - Good still
Dream No More - Wishes it was John Bush era Anthrax, not nearly as good. Mediocre
Halo Of Fire - Pretty damn good, really dig it. Doesn't sound derivative, like some of the songs I've liked so far do at times

Disc Two
Confusion - I think I dig this? Kind of boring but not terrible? Meh?
ManUNkind - Glad we got to fit the stupid Am I Evil snare roll thing into 2 song intros in a row, let's hope "Am I Savage" stopped at the name. This sounds like a cover song that they "Metallica'd" up....meh.
Here Comes Revenge - More what I expect from later Metallica but I dig it
Am I Savage? - Ooooh this intro is nice. Transitions into excellent swinging riff. Didn't expect this to be one of the better tracks on the album lol. Probably the best riffs thus far. Don't know if I should call them "Mercyful Fate-esque" but that's what I'm feeling right now
Murder One - I can dig it. Ok these vocals/lyrics are losing me. Yeah you lost me. Onto the song with all the hype
Spit Out The Bone - ......these riffs are fucking weak. Main riff sounds like a local band. Verse sounds like a Sum 41 song or something. Chorus part is very cool. First solo part is neat. Double bass melodic part is nice. Heavier parts are nice. Fast solo break is whatever.

Best songs - Am I Savage?, Halo Of Fire, Hardwired, Atlas, Moth
Worst - Now That We're Dead

Overall - It's ight
 
Hardwired...for Hot Takes

Disc One
Hardwired - Liked it when they first released, still do
Atlas, Rise - Much more favorable impression of it than when I first heard it, enjoyed it
Now That We're Dead - Yo fuck this, garbage
Moth Into Flame - Good still
Dream No More - Wishes it was John Bush era Anthrax, not nearly as good. Mediocre
Halo Of Fire - Pretty damn good, really dig it. Doesn't sound derivative, like some of the songs I've liked so far do at times

Disc Two
Confusion - I think I dig this? Kind of boring but not terrible? Meh?
ManUNkind - Glad we got to fit the stupid Am I Evil snare roll thing into 2 song intros in a row, let's hope "Am I Savage" stopped at the name. This sounds like a cover song that they "Metallica'd" up....meh.
Here Comes Revenge - More what I expect from later Metallica but I dig it
Am I Savage? - Ooooh this intro is nice. Transitions into excellent swinging riff. Didn't expect this to be one of the better tracks on the album lol. Probably the best riffs thus far. Don't know if I should call them "Mercyful Fate-esque" but that's what I'm feeling right now
Murder One - I can dig it. Ok these vocals/lyrics are losing me. Yeah you lost me. Onto the song with all the hype
Spit Out The Bone - ......these riffs are fucking weak. Main riff sounds like a local band. Verse sounds like a Sum 41 song or something. Chorus part is very cool. First solo part is neat. Double bass melodic part is nice. Heavier parts are nice. Fast solo break is whatever.

Best songs - Am I Savage?, Halo Of Fire, Hardwired, Atlas, Moth
Worst - Now That We're Dead

Overall - It's ight

I'm triggered.
 
I'm triggered.
People hated Hardwired and called it derivative but apparently Spit Out The Bone's "baby's first thrash riff after listening to Metallica" is some hot shit. As though anyone who's ever played metal guitar has not accidentally played that riff when messing around

Now That We're Dead is one of the worst Metallica songs they've written outside of St. Anger.

I really dig the sound of Bush-era Anthrax, despite only really digging Sound Of White Noise from a songwriting standpoint. Hetfield is doing a John Bush impression while Lars apparently picked up Charlie Benante's kick along to the chugs jam beats that really completes the illusion
 
Hardwired...for Hot Takes

Disc One
Hardwired - Liked it when they first released, still do
Atlas, Rise - Much more favorable impression of it than when I first heard it, enjoyed it
Now That We're Dead - Yo fuck this, garbage
Moth Into Flame - Good still
Dream No More - Wishes it was John Bush era Anthrax, not nearly as good. Mediocre
Halo Of Fire - Pretty damn good, really dig it. Doesn't sound derivative, like some of the songs I've liked so far do at times

Disc Two
Confusion - I think I dig this? Kind of boring but not terrible? Meh?
ManUNkind - Glad we got to fit the stupid Am I Evil snare roll thing into 2 song intros in a row, let's hope "Am I Savage" stopped at the name. This sounds like a cover song that they "Metallica'd" up....meh.
Here Comes Revenge - More what I expect from later Metallica but I dig it
Am I Savage? - Ooooh this intro is nice. Transitions into excellent swinging riff. Didn't expect this to be one of the better tracks on the album lol. Probably the best riffs thus far. Don't know if I should call them "Mercyful Fate-esque" but that's what I'm feeling right now
Murder One - I can dig it. Ok these vocals/lyrics are losing me. Yeah you lost me. Onto the song with all the hype
Spit Out The Bone - ......these riffs are fucking weak. Main riff sounds like a local band. Verse sounds like a Sum 41 song or something. Chorus part is very cool. First solo part is neat. Double bass melodic part is nice. Heavier parts are nice. Fast solo break is whatever.

Best songs - Am I Savage?, Halo Of Fire, Hardwired, Atlas, Moth
Worst - Now That We're Dead

Overall - It's ight

What the hell...I need to wake up from this nightmare, lol.
 
People hated Hardwired and called it derivative but apparently Spit Out The Bone's "baby's first thrash riff after listening to Metallica" is some hot shit. As though anyone who's ever played metal guitar has not accidentally played that riff when messing around

Now That We're Dead is one of the worst Metallica songs they've written outside of St. Anger.

I really dig the sound of Bush-era Anthrax, despite only really digging Sound Of White Noise from a songwriting standpoint. Hetfield is doing a John Bush impression while Lars apparently picked up Charlie Benante's kick along to the chugs jam beats that really completes the illusion

Honestly imo.
Dream No More>>>Sad But True>>>>>>>>Thingy
I don't love Spit Out The Bone either, but I definitely don't hate it.
Also NTWD>Don't Tread On Me,Of Wolf and Man, through the never, trapped under ice, plenty of stuff from load/reload, all of St.Anger
 

Ristifer

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I haven't even heard the album, but if Hardwired is one of the best songs and Bone has weak riffs, then Bone must have the shittiest riffs in history. Because Hardwired is the definition of generic riff. And I like that song.
 
Honestly imo.
Dream No More>>>Sad But True>>>>>>>>Thingy
I don't love Spit Out The Bone either, but I definitely don't hate it.
Also NTWD>Don't Tread On Me,Of Wolf and Man, through the never, trapped under ice, plenty of stuff from load/reload, all of St.Anger
I don't hate it either, simply responding to the hype. Hah.

Better than OWAM and Trapped? No. No no no no no no no
I haven't even heard the album, but if Hardwired is one of the best songs and Bone has weak riffs, then Bone must have the shittiest riffs in history. Because Hardwired is the definition of generic riff. And I like that song.
Hardwired is definitely generic but I can get down with jamming power chords easier than "hurr durr open low string with single note melodic parts like MOP"

The feel of both songs are similar though, Spit Out The Bone goes to more interesting places but when people say a Metallica song is on the level of the first four there's some expectations that come with that. I don't think it meets at all, doesn't mean it isn't good but yea

There are more interesting riff ideas when they're desperately trying to ape the style of AJFA. To me Hardwired is generic like something along the lines of Toxic Holocaust or d-beat type punk stuff. It does it's job, not blowing anyone away riff-wise but it's not really trying to
 
I don't hate it either, simply responding to the hype. Hah.

Better than OWAM and Trapped? No. No no no no no no no

Hardwired is definitely generic but I can get down with jamming power chords easier than "hurr durr open low string with single note melodic parts like MOP"

The feel of both songs are similar though, Spit Out The Bone goes to more interesting places but when people say a Metallica song is on the level of the first four there's some expectations that come with that. I don't think it meets at all, doesn't mean it isn't good but yea

Neither OWAM and TUI are good.
 

HF2014

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Had a chance to listen a bit more. I think there's 4 good songs on this album, the rest are pretty forgettable to me.

I like hardwired, atlas rise, moth and spit out the bone. I'm probably the only person that thinks the title track is the best song on this record, even though it has a dumb chorus. Spit out the bone might be the most inspired thing they've recorded in years.

Also got the chance to listen to it, and i think im enjoying the same songs as you, will give one more shot to the other songs, but they feel like to me a Load album ( raising flame shield).
 
People hated Hardwired and called it derivative but apparently Spit Out The Bone's "baby's first thrash riff after listening to Metallica" is some hot shit. As though anyone who's ever played metal guitar has not accidentally played that riff when messing around

Now That We're Dead is one of the worst Metallica songs they've written outside of St. Anger.

I really dig the sound of Bush-era Anthrax, despite only really digging Sound Of White Noise from a songwriting standpoint. Hetfield is doing a John Bush impression while Lars apparently picked up Charlie Benante's kick along to the chugs jam beats that really completes the illusion

Hardwired is more "baby's first thrash", but opinions I guess.
 
Hardwired is more "baby's first thrash", but opinions I guess.
I'm speaking solely to the melodic main riff. The chorus is fantastic and actually on par with their best, where it goes from there is great, but the intro through the verse just doesn't really do it for me

Hardwired is very much a song that sounds like they got together and jammed on something fast, while having fun with it. Like what they were trying for with St. Anger but not trash. Whereas Spit Out The Bone is going for more of that epic/melodic feel
 
The Black Album isn't an album I listen to often. Maybe it was overplayed as that was my first Metallica album.

My favorite song of all time is probably The Unforgiven though (or Orion depending on my mood)

Really digging Confusion and Halo on Fire. Plus Spit Out the Bone is hot fire.
 
I liked Death Magnetic (TONS of cool riffs) but it was more of a "Yay! Metallica can still kind of play thrash songs!" novelty thing. 1000 bands do it better. Spit Out the Bone, however, is up there with the 80s stuff. It's a REALLY good thrash song, no novelty involved.
 
AJFA is the greatest album ever produced by humanity, but damn if this new one isn't pretty slick. Somewhere between AJFA and Black with a little reload sprinkled on top I feel like.
 
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