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[Bleepey]

Apparently this series of books were quite popular. Apparently it's the female equivalent of the Game except without it being autobiographical and providing an insight on the pick up artist community. A lot of the advice they give seems to be if i am honest truly terrible. I found a synopsis. here is some of the advice apparently given.

Rule #1: Be a “Creature Unlike Any Other”.
- Smile (you light up a room)
- Pause in between sentences (you don’t babble on and on out of nervousness)
- Listen (attentively)
- Look (demurely, never stare)
- Breath (slowly)
- Stand (straight)
- Walk (briskly, with your shoulders back)
- Keep moving (don’t stand in a corner waiting for anyone)
If a man approaches you: smile and answer his questions very nicely without saying too much. You’re demure, a bit mysterious. After a few minutes you say, “I think I’ll walk around now”.

Rule #2: Don’t Talk to a Man First (and Don’t Ask Him to Dance)
- Never show you’re not having a good time.
- Men aren’t interested in women who are witty in a negative way.
- If someone asks if you’re having a good time, simply say yes and smile.

Rule #3: Don’t Stare at Men or Talk Too Much
- Don’t make eye contact; simply smile, look relaxed and approachable.
- On the first date: Look down at the table, your food, the crowd. Seem generally interested in life, others, your surroundings, the paintings on the wall, as oppose to the live prey. Let him spend the evening trying to get your attention.
- Stay cool and listen to what he says.
- Don’t feel the need to fill awkward silences.
- Be quiet and reserved.

Rule #4: Don’t Meet Him Halfway or Go Dutch on a Date
- Don’t make it easy for him- always make the meeting place convenient for you.
- Don’t pay for anything on the first three dates.
- Repay him by being appreciative. Say thank you and please. Don’t criticize the place or the food or the service. Be positive. Look for the good in everything.

Rule #5: Don’t Call Him and Rarely Return His Calls
- When you call only once in a while, it becomes special.
- Don’t call him right back; when you do, keep the conversation short and sweet.
- If he asks you out last minute, don’t reprimand him for not calling sooner by saying “If you had called earlier…” Just say, “Really, I’d love to, but I can’t.”
- Don’t demand to know why he didn’t call sooner.

Rule #6: Always End Phone Calls First
- Don’t stay on the phone for more than 10 minutes.
- Good conversation enders: “I have a million things to do,” “Well, it’s been really nice talking to you,” “Actually, I’m kind of busy right now,” “I really have to go now”, and “My beepers beeping, gotta run!” Said always in a very nice way.
- Turn off your answering machine on Sunday afternoon.
- Don’t feel you have to tell him exactly what you are doing. After a few minutes just say you’re busy (nicely) and can’t talk anymore.

Rule #7: Don’t Accept a Saturday Night Date after Wednesday
- Practice the following answer in the nicest voice possible: “Oh, I’m sorry, but I’ve already made plans,” or “No, wow, I wish I wasn’t busy!”
- Don’t counteroffer by saying “But I’m free Monday.”
- Be very nice, but very firm when you say no.
- Don’t say what your plans are because it doesn’t matter.

Rule #8: Fill Up Your Time before the Date
- If you’re busy all day, you won’t be so needy and empty when he picks you up.
What to do before the date:
1. To relieve anxiety, go to the gym, get a manicure, or take a long hot bubble bath.
2. Buy a new shirt or bottle of perfume. Get a makeover. Treat yourself.
3. Take a nap. A good nap will keep you going.
4. See a movie (comedy, not a romance so love isn’t too much on your mind), read the newspaper or a book.
What not to do before the date:
1. Don’t talk to your girlfriends about the date all day. You really shouldn’t be thinking about the date at all.

Rule #9: How to Act on Dates 1, 2, and 3
- Don’t tell him about your day as if you’ve known him for years
- Don’t be too serious, controlling, or wifey
- Don’t mention marriage (even to say that a friend recently got married)
- Be sweet and light
- Laugh at his jokes, but not too hard
- Smile a lot
- Don’t feel obligated to fill up the lulls in the conversation
- Let him do all the work- pick you up, pick the restaurant, open the door etc.
- End the date first; say “Gee, this was really great, but I’ve got a really big day tomorrow.” Don’t say what it is you’re doing.
- At the end of the first date, you can accept a light peck on the cheek or lips. Don’t invite him up to your apartment. He should only see the lobby.

Rule #10: How to Act on Dates 4 through Commitment Time
- You can start to show more of yourself; talk about your feelings as long as you don’t get too heavy.
- Exhibit warmth, charm and heart. Express sympathy.
- Look into his eyes, be attentive and a good listener
- Don’t mention the future. Talk about something outside your relationship, like sports, TV shows, movies, novels.
- Don’t tell him he’s the first man to treat you with respect.
- Don’t give him the third degree about his past relationships. It’s none of your business.
- Don’t overwhelm him with your career triumphs; try to let him shine.
- When asked a question that is too personal, say “Oh, I’d rather not talk about that right now.”
- Act independent

Rule #11: Always End the Date First
- The first date or two should not last more than 5 hours.
- Glance at your watch and say something like, “Gosh, I really must be going now. I have such a busy day tomorrow.”
- Don’t try to prolong the date by suggest you do something else, or invite him up to your apartment.

Rule #12: Stop Dating Him if He Doesn’t Buy You a Romantic Gift for Your Birthday or Valentine’s Day
- When men are in love, the give love objects even when they are on a tight budget (flowers, chocolate, jewelry, poetry, weekend trips to the country)
- When you do receive gifts, don’t overreact.

Rule #13: Don’t See Him More than Once or Twice a Week
- For the first month or two
- Twice or three times a week during the second month
- Three to four times a week in the third month
- Never more than four to five times a week unless you’re engaged.

http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/some-women-follow-the-rules-here-they-are-vt81855.html

The advice seems to be mostly garbage and it seems to be for women who want men to go through more labours than Hercules and the fires of hell just to take them out. Apparently some women think more lowly of it than me

http://uk.jezebel.com/5912459/oh-great-the-rules-is-back-with-a-whole-new-bunch-of-dating-garbage

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

Looks like a version of a How to Catch a Husband manual from the 19th century, but updated for the mid 20th.

 

[SolsticeZero]

So it's a self-help book built at pandering to a certain audience? Kinda like those fifty million "Chicken Soup" books, but with dating instead of religion?

 

[ComputerMKII]

So many rules. That's humans you're dealing with, not submarines.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Man, pick up artists are so cool:

 

[Omni]

Seems legit

 

[Kinitari]

I think the limited value in PUA is lost when it hits this level.

Some general ideas and concepts can be taken out of a lot of these PUA tutorials for your benefit (be confident, optimistic, smile, work on yourself and shrug off rejection) - but when they're like "On every twelfth full moon, bathe in the blood of the last person who besmirched you, and chant "I am the one" backwards while walking backwards in a reverse clockwise circle" - it gets kind of ridiculous.

 

[umop_3pisdn]

Ironically these sorts of guides reveal a lack of self-confidence and self-respect though they tend to emphasize their importance. If you want to 'game' people so badly that you adopt these kinda of tactics at the cost of sincerity or being an actual person then you shouldn't be surprised if neither you nor the person you're seeing ends up being worthwhile company.

 

[Seanspeed]

"I think I'll walk around now."

lol

What sort of weird advice is that?

 

[Haly]

Rule #4: Don’t Meet Him Halfway or Go Dutch on a Date
- Don’t make it easy for him- always make the meeting place convenient for you.
- Don’t pay for anything on the first three dates.
- Repay him by being appreciative. Say thank you and please. Don’t criticize the place or the food or the service. Be positive. Look for the good in everything.

Is chivalry cool again?

 

[Pollux]

Rules for dating are stupid...don't see him more than once the first week? why put limits on it? My girlfriend and I hung out almost every day for the first couple months after we met and started dating because we clicked so well. There's no need to put artificial rules on yourself just because.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

So many rules. That's humans you're dealing with, not submarines.

To be fair, most of the "rules" appear to aimed at curbing common behaviours that can get between people and entering into a relationship. Evidently, both this and PUA stuff boil down to the adages "Be exciting" and "Don't be needy", which is good advice if you want to parlay someone you're interested in into something more.

Were the PUA and husband-catching philosophies not so venal (the first is about manipulating women into sleeping with you and the second about manipulating men into sleeping with you), or had they included advice for choosing a long term partner who is good for you, they wouldn't have such bad reputations.

 

[Kinitari]

Is chivalry cool again?

Fuck that rule, there are plenty of girls out there who make more money than me. If I were single you better believe I'd be going dutch, a girl who didn't offer at the very least would be considered less desirable.

 

[PushTheButtonMax]

My beeper's beeping?

 

[Conciliator]

Seems really out of date to say the least. Anyway I would probably interpret a girl who followed all of these rules as being a bit stuck-up and aloof. Which means I wouldn't be interested in her.

EDIT: 'Don't call him and don't return his calls' seems like a bad plan for any goal other than getting someone to leave you alone.

 

[daviyoung]

Oh wow, that's terrible.

 

[Transhuman]

- Men aren’t interested in women who are witty in a negative way.

"Don't intimidate them with your ability to string together words"

- On the first date: Look down at the table, your food, the crowd. Seem generally interested in life, others, your surroundings, the paintings on the wall, as oppose to the live prey. Let him spend the evening trying to get your attention.

Guys love it when their date looks like they have mild brain damage.

- Be quiet and reserved.

Somewhere between "Japanese housewife" and "indentured servant".

- Don’t pay for anything on the first three dates.

You go girl.

- Repay him by being appreciative. Say thank you and please. Don’t criticize the place or the food or the service. Be positive. Look for the good in everything.

"At least the condom I found in my spaghetti wasn't used?"

Rule #6: Always End Phone Calls First
- Don’t stay on the phone for more than 10 minutes.
- Good conversation enders: “I have a million things to do,” “Well, it’s been really nice talking to you,” “Actually, I’m kind of busy right now,” “I really have to go now”, and “My beepers beeping, gotta run!” Said always in a very nice way.

Beeper? These rules are so current.

1. Don’t talk to your girlfriends about the date all day. You really shouldn’t be thinking about the date at all.

And this isn't a sex in the city episode.

Rule #9: How to Act on Dates 1, 2, and 3
- Laugh at his jokes, but not too hard

Practise in the mirror, and if it's too loud, punch the mirror. "You fucked up mirror-me, you fucked-up".

Rule #10: How to Act on Dates 4 through Commitment Time
- You can start to show more of yourself; talk about your feelings as long as you don’t get too heavy.
- Exhibit warmth, charm and heart. Express sympathy.

Before date 4, you need to be a puppy-strangling Terminator.

- Don’t overwhelm him with your career triumphs; try to let him shine.
- When asked a question that is too personal, say “Oh, I’d rather not talk about that right now.”
- Act independent

Act independent, FOLLOW THIS GUIDE IF YOU WANT A MAN.

- Don’t try to prolong the date by suggest you do something else, or invite him up to your apartment.

If you want to have casual sex you'll need to do it on the street or something.

Rule #13: Don’t See Him More than Once or Twice a Week
- For the first month or two
- Twice or three times a week during the second month
- Three to four times a week in the third month
- Never more than four to five times a week unless you’re engaged.

If he calls to meet you, just politely say that you still need to wait 3 more days before you can see him again, then hang up.

 

[daviyoung]

Women, know your limits

 

[The Technomancer]

Goddamn any woman who followed thse probably wouldn't get taken out on a second date by me because I would think she wasn't interested

 

[Omegasquash]

And they're supposed to follow these rules to...what...make me fall for them, or be independent during the relationship building process?

I don't understand. And lol at #12. We buy gifts when we're in love. Yes. Money. Perpetuate the stereotype.

 

[Deleted member 8095]

So glad I'm married and don't have to deal with garbage like this.

 

[GungHo]

Rule #3: Don’t Stare at Men or Talk Too Much

I can't tell if this is dating advice or if she's getting ready for prison.

 

[Cubsfan23]

Just use some of the rules for yourself

 

[dionysus]

So glad I'm married and don't have to deal with garbage like this.

Me too. But in general even people who try to set strict rules throw them out the window when they really like someone.

But damn, if someone did this shit to me after date 2 I would come to the conclusion that she hates me but is to meek to tell me to take a hike. Wouldn't call her again.

Oh and my rule of thumb is if I call a girl for a follow up date and she doesn't accept and refuses to commit to any time in the future then she must not want to go on another date. Do women who follow these rules wonder why no one calls a second time?

"Do you want to go out on friday?" No sorry I got plans. "What about sometime next week?" I need to look at my schedule. "Oh ok well have a good weekend." Click. Never call back again. Woman thinks to herself, "why doesn't he want to date me?"