I don't think the current meta is any better or worse than the previous one, Dr Boom RNG has easily been replaced and shaman are just as shitty to play against as secret paladins were, and priest seems to be worse off. Kind of expected but you'd hope Blizzard would know how to balance the game at least a little by now.
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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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I don't think the current meta is any better or worse than the previous one, Dr Boom RNG has easily been replaced and shaman are just as shitty to play against as secret paladins were, and priest seems to be worse off. Kind of expected but you'd hope Blizzard would know how to balance the game at least a little by now.
Yeah, I'm having a blast. Once I open my last 5 packs for old gods and finish my arena run, that'll be the next deck I make w/ my dust.
omg you shame us, you have unopened packs?!?! SHAAAAAAME!
veryslowhand
Banned
I have a dust hoarding problem, can't let it go
thekillermuffin
Member
I pulled a golden one, so I'm good there
Though I'm still looking at getting extra dust to craft:- Preparation x2 (can't believe I still don't have any)
- Cairne Bloodhoof
- N'Zoth
People play secret pally without Avenge (or Shielded Minibots) ? That doesn't seem to be very efficient.
Then again on the first day I fought a druid who didn't seem to know FoN was nerfed.
I still have 1 more standard game to win. I don't play as much as you guys ;_;
I opened my packs on wed, won 2 standard games and 1 tavern brawl.
I played arena and won 6 standard games last night (lost 2 I think?).
Anyone thinking of making a paladin deck needs it. Its so good, but my opponents are mean, rarely do they let him live more than 2 turns XD
In a nzoth deck, there being so many threats, even someone with a bunch of ways to deal with them eventually runs out and then you nzoth and win lol
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Mysterious challenger is still a strong turn and secret keeper is still strong. But still way reduced in power.
Time to play paladin then, C'thun pally or N'Zoth!
Doomsayer + Fireball -> Sylvanas. So good.
Dropped 3 ranks with Astral Communion shenanigans this afternoon and quickly regained it with Freeze Mage. Only had problems with C'Thun warrior which was partly due to poor draws and him having Brann + Shieldmaiden 2.0
thekillermuffin
Member
Think of the gold value, though! You get the sweet golden Ashbringer too!
LucidMomentum
Member
I got the gold C'thun shieldmaiden, I should make a deck with it.
Finally beat a renolock with my Evo Shaman. I still feel like I should remove ancestral knowledge / nerubian prophet for argent squire and flametongue totems, but they set up some great Evolution combos.
I just have trouble with aggro without my spells :/
*Edit* Next game, all spells no minions. RNG pls.
Blizard will not buff any cards. Plus, the new Priest cards are good. The issue is they have only been shown to work in a single, boring archetype (C'Thun Priest)
Hardly a replacement for the better cards that left Standard.
And surely you mean card (singular) because the majority are mediocre at best.
You're not going to regret it!
Had a game against a C'thun warrior. Pulled off his brann + shieldbearer combo, the other shieldbearer, 17 dmg C'Thun and got that one back for a 19 dmg C'Thun, ooh and Justicar. Still won the game thanks to N'Zoth and Deathwing.
SkullHydra
Member
I'm loving the heck out of Old Gods right now. I finally feel like I can play my Midrange Shaman and my Totem Shaman, to a lesser degree, while standing a chance against the meta! I wish Aggro Shaman had a hit or something so that people wouldn't keep hating on my favorite class though. ;_;
i presume new Deathwing and not the regular one?
Oh my bad, yeah the new one.
LucidMomentum
Member
Had my first loss to Freeze Mage.
That was fun. Had I gotten any of my taunts earlier, I think I would've been fine.
That was fun. Had I gotten any of my taunts earlier, I think I would've been fine.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Wait are divine shield Paladin and murloc Paladin the same deck?
You realize as soon as something is crafted you can uncraft it for the same amount of dust right?
Super Nothing
Member
Taunts don't do much when Freeze Mage can kill you with spells from hand even if you're at 30 health.
I don't think they have to be, but they could. There are many Murlocs with only 1 HP.
LucidMomentum
Member
Yeah I didn't think it was Freeze Mage because they kept using their ice spells on my minions due to taunt, etc.
Then Alexstrasza came out...
+1 for this deck. Solid 5-0 so far.
Shifting Shade, Twilight Darkmender, and Darkshire Alchemist are all good cards. that have already been shown to work.
LucidMomentum
Member
That looks like it'd fix some of the problems I have with my current deck. Will give it a shot!
Part of the problem is people are refusing to test priest and falling back on easier decks at the moment so it is hard to tell how priest is.
I do decently with C'thun but I haven't faced stiff competition.
slightconfuse
Banned
zoolock has working well for me.
Think I need to put a spell or 2 in
Think I need to put a spell or 2 in
Finally lost on my seventh game but that was after an awful opening hand (one 5 and two 6 costs).
I posted a Dragon Priest deck a few pages back that made use of Shifting Shade. The deck is 6-0 against aggro and 4-4 against mid/control decks. I think priest is in a great place, but they don't have as many easy to build decks. People are too afraid to try out new things without a solid template. Once their rank starts slipping they jump back to their tried and true decks.
Portugeezer
Member
Watching Kolento play right now... Paladin seems fucking broken.
Is it that divine shield/zoo crap?
CraigerGamer
Member
What kind of paladin is being run?
Last night I tried out 2 decks.
Tempo Mage - Spells and spell synergy galore.
I could not get this deck to work. I tried speeding it up, slowing it down, including more card draw, adding secrets, removing secrets, and walked away from it after losing about 10 games.
I think Tempo Mage is hit very hard by losing Mad Scientist. They just don't have a 2 drop to replace that card.
They also lost 2 great 2 cost spells in Flame Cannon and Unstable Portal. They were cards that offered up big tempo advantages with a little risky rng. I can't figure out how to replace these pieces yet.
For now the deck is shelved until I figure out what the hell I want to do with it.
Mid-Range Totem Evolve Shaman - I found my ladder deck
Totem Shaman was tried by a lot of people when TGT came out. The deck was missing something though, and I figured out what it was. It was a 5/5 Taunt that reduces in cost for every totem you summon.
Master of Evolution is a great card. I would love to upgrade my 6 drop played on turn 3 into a 7 drop, why thank you.
Hex is still king of removal. Eff your death rattles. Eff your 7/7 for 4 mana. Eff your Councilman. Eff all your old gods. Hex is here to eff up your deck.
I think Evolve is a mediocre card. It has won games and it has lost games. Overall I find it has too much variance. I find myself only using it when I have 2 to 3 minions on the board to limit the destruction it can cause. Sometimes I just want the good cards I have in my deck, not the crappy ones waiting to be revealed by this card.
Deck:
1s
Evolve
2s
Flame Juggler
Jeweled Scarab
Totem Golem
3s
Hex
Lighting Storm
Argent Horserider
Tuskarr Totemic
4s
Master of Evolution
5s
Azure Drake
Hallazeal
Thunder Bluff Valient
6s
Fire Elemental
Nerubian Prophet
Thing from Below
Tempo Mage - Spells and spell synergy galore.
I could not get this deck to work. I tried speeding it up, slowing it down, including more card draw, adding secrets, removing secrets, and walked away from it after losing about 10 games.
I think Tempo Mage is hit very hard by losing Mad Scientist. They just don't have a 2 drop to replace that card.
They also lost 2 great 2 cost spells in Flame Cannon and Unstable Portal. They were cards that offered up big tempo advantages with a little risky rng. I can't figure out how to replace these pieces yet.
For now the deck is shelved until I figure out what the hell I want to do with it.
Mid-Range Totem Evolve Shaman - I found my ladder deck
Totem Shaman was tried by a lot of people when TGT came out. The deck was missing something though, and I figured out what it was. It was a 5/5 Taunt that reduces in cost for every totem you summon.
Master of Evolution is a great card. I would love to upgrade my 6 drop played on turn 3 into a 7 drop, why thank you.
Hex is still king of removal. Eff your death rattles. Eff your 7/7 for 4 mana. Eff your Councilman. Eff all your old gods. Hex is here to eff up your deck.
I think Evolve is a mediocre card. It has won games and it has lost games. Overall I find it has too much variance. I find myself only using it when I have 2 to 3 minions on the board to limit the destruction it can cause. Sometimes I just want the good cards I have in my deck, not the crappy ones waiting to be revealed by this card.
Deck:
1s
Evolve
2s
Flame Juggler
Jeweled Scarab
Totem Golem
3s
Hex
Lighting Storm
Argent Horserider
Tuskarr Totemic
4s
Master of Evolution
5s
Azure Drake
Hallazeal
Thunder Bluff Valient
6s
Fire Elemental
Nerubian Prophet
Thing from Below
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Kolento can make anything look broken.
Shown to work? I've only seen one of those three cards getting consistent use on streams (Kolento and Zetalot) and during my own games.
Shifting Shade has too little impact. People only run it due to lack of other deathrattle cards. Some have even cut it and went with other 4 drops. I've tried several different deck (dragon, reno, control, c'thun, n'zoth & combo) and never once felt like it was the optimal play when it was put on the board.
Twilight Darkmender is outclassed by the Warrior one. It's necessary to run two of them in C'Thun decks, but that's not a seal of quality in itself.
Darkshire is by my opinion the only good card given to Priest this expansion. It's flexible and can be run in multiple archetypes.
Yeah. That's what I was doing, just checking out the animations. I accidentally touched elsewhere on the screen and lost the ability to Undo.
Karsticles
Member
I've only faced one Freeze Mage this week, and I don't think there are a lot of Priest options that will help that matchup.
I have 6 clears to deal with Zoo, and Shadowform kills more than half of the Zoo deck every turn. Not every card is amazing for every matchup. The game usually ends around turn 10 for me. If I get one of my early clears, the game is very manageable. Of the Zoo minions, there are 4 that are really dangerous:
1) Sea Giant
2) Doomguard
3) The new guy that gets buffed when minions are played.
4) Gang Boss Imp
Between Cabal Shadow Priest, Shadow Word: Death, Entomb, and Shadow Word: Pain, I have all of these guys covered. If their draws are less than perfect, Mind Control might take one of the first two.
The only thing I can't deal with very well is Jaraxxus' Infernals...but can anyone? Haha.
Doomsayer is there pretty much just for Aggro Shaman and Zoo. The only problem I have with Aggro Shaman is the Doomhammer + Rockbiter combo. I have zero problems dealing with the deck. I actually pushed a game late enough to use Mind Control on Al'Akir two nights ago.
The thing about Shadowform is that it drastically changes how of these matches play out. Once you wipe the board, Shadowform lets you maintain permanent board control without using cards except for major plays. Mind Control takes care of those major plays, and it forces your opponent to use the limited removal he has like Polymorph/Hex/Hunter's Mark on whatever you stole. That means there's no answer left for when you play Ysera or Ragnaros. Against Control decks that already want to play this huge stuff, Mind Control + Entomb covers 4 major plays, and Shadow Word: Death is there as well.
In the current meta, the most prevalent decks I face are C'Thun and N'Zoth. Mind Control counters both of those decks hard. I don't know how else people manage to deal with N'Zoth bringing back Tirion + Sylvannas + Cairn all in one turn. That combo is brutal unless you have a 100% board clear like Twisting Nether, which Priest no longer has access to.
I've never been this dust-rich before. :-O
I'm waiting until I absolutely need something to complete a deck. My pity timer is near max for for Classic and WotOG, so I'll wait on it. My top crafting temptations are Antonidas and Leven, but I'm not even sure if I can fit a change into my current deck.
Why didn't you insta-DE and get it back?
Murloc Paladin runs Anyfin Can Happen.