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[Professor Lich]

Game design is a very iterative process. You usually start with really insane ideas just to see where they go before you start refining into the ideas that are actually used. It's like when they had that article about Blackwing Technician when it started out as a Druid card.

It is really cool to see how a card like Yogg-Saron came into what it is today though. It also shows just how much testing is done too. They probably go over hundreds of different card iterations.

 

[Drkirby]

These are the ideas they come up with in development? Fucking hell...

That 4 mana Yogg sounds so bad. It would either be OP with the tempo gain, or useless once it got to turn 4.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

The last thing I want is another card that screws with the timer considering Nozdormu is a busted ass card, not because its too good but that its actually broken

It's apparently not nozdormu that is busted, but the turn timer that is. They said they actually find a lot of problems with the turn timer because of noz.

 

[Ashodin]

Living the dream

 

[Zemm]

I don't know what to feel about them. Should I feel horrified that Blizzard even thinks about stuff like that or be glad they had the courtesy to not print cards like that?

well the current yogg is still a stupid as fuck card so whatever really, good to get an insight into how bad they are at designing and balancing though.

 

[echoshifting]

Finally had the opportunity to self-Yogg when Golden Monkey dropped it in my hand. Drew to death, feels good man

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Anyone else repeatedly use equality to make sure Ragnaros heals face?

Opponent just pyroblasted themselves with Yogg, still would have won but hilarious nonetheless.

 

[Dahbomb]

well the current yogg is still a stupid as fuck card so whatever really, good to get an insight into how bad they are at designing and balancing though.

The other Yogg cards basically can result in a game lost at turn 2-4.

Current Yogg if it's going to do anything it won't do it earlier than turn 10 in most cases. And even then it can backfire dramatically as we have seen numerous times. Current Yogg is mostly a Yogg card where as those other Yogg could break the game as you could build decks around them and finish games way too early.

So I vastly prefer the current version which is mostly a joke card compared to the other versions where people can build aggressive/OTK combos decks that finish game super quick.

 

[Haly]

I'm not that bothered by Yogg. It's a fun card. Cards in Hearthstone tend to be one of: competitive, fun, useless. Better fun than useless.

Y'Shaarj though, I'd like to see what designs they rejected because the current incarnation is just barf.

 

[Mulgrok]

first good arena draft of WOG

equality
2 minibot
2 rallying blade
2 aldor
2 truesilver
2 uldaman
tirion

I anticipate 1-3

EDIT:

I'm not that bothered by Yogg. It's a fun card. Cards in Hearthstone tend to be one of: competitive, fun, useless. Better fun than useless.

Y'Shaarj though, I'd like to see what designs they rejected because the current incarnation is just barf.

y'shaarj looks fine to me. It won't win a game when losing by a lot, but fine otherwise.

 

[Ladekabel]

Woah, Kibler actual salty. It's because of Freeze Mage though so it is understandable.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

I'm not that bothered by Yogg. It's a fun card. Cards in Hearthstone tend to be one of: competitive, fun, useless. Better fun than useless.

Y'Shaarj though, I'd like to see what designs they rejected because the current incarnation is just barf.

Yeah I don't see the problem with Yogg, funnily enough I don't think I've faced him once, the decks I've played have been too fast for them to have the chance to. Y'Shaarj is both boring and bad, seemed like they ran out of ideas.

Woah, Kibler actual salty. It's because of Freeze Mage though so it is understandable.

It's one of the only things that'll get him salty, he got killed from 30 health before in a game that he played perfectly, that kind of stuff is just infuriating. I hope all the top players talk with Blizzard about these nonsense decks that are keeping every other deck down. Especially non interactive decks.

 

[Tacitus_]

Woah, Kibler actual salty. It's because of Freeze Mage though so it is understandable.

Getting killed from 30 while they have iceblock to block lethal is so fun and interactive

 

[manhack]

Getting killed from 30 while they have iceblock to block lethal is so fun and interactive

Yeah freeze mage is dumb. I wish there was a way to make it a little less stupid, but still viable.

That said, I've won against most of the freeze mages I've played against since WOG game out.

 

[LyleLanley]

Speaking of Y'Shaarj, anyone got a good deck for it?

 

[Super Nothing]

The other Yogg cards basically can result in a game lost at turn 2-4.

Current Yogg if it's going to do anything it won't do it earlier than turn 10 in most cases. And even then it can backfire dramatically as we have seen numerous times. Current Yogg is mostly a Yogg card where as those other Yogg could break the game as you could build decks around them and finish games way too early.

So I vastly prefer the current version which is mostly a joke card compared to the other versions where people can build aggressive/OTK combos decks that finish game super quick.

Zoo with that 4 mana Yogg would be disgusting. You could play turn 1 Juggler, Flame Imp, and Voidwalker. That's pretty much game over right there. Turn 1 Darkshire Councilman and any 1 drop would be pretty OP, too.

 

[Star Falcon]

Looking to fill a couple gaps in my collection versus newer stuff, any suggestions? I have 4200 dust left and am considering the following:

Archmage Antonidas
The Black Knight
Justicar Trueheart

Fandral Staghelm
Xaril, Poisoned Mind

I play most classes regularly and don't ladder all too seriously, but still like to win games!

 

[Haly]

y'shaarj looks fine to me. It won't win a game when losing by a lot, but fine otherwise.

It doesn't do anything. The heart of the problem is, by the time you can play it you've already played most of your other minions. Probably the good ones as well. Not to mention most of your good minions probably have battlecry. It has the same issue as Varian and Confessor. Between whiffing, being obscenely expensive, and not doing much until 1-2 turns later, it's just not worthwhile.

I mean maybe there's a hidden tech out there that makes Y'shaarj good but I think it's telling more people have played the honorable sudoku card Yogg over Y'shaarj.

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

first good arena draft of WOG

equality
2 minibot
2 rallying blade
2 aldor
2 truesilver
2 uldaman
tirion

I anticipate 1-3

EDIT:

y'shaarj looks fine to me. It won't win a game when losing by a lot, but fine otherwise.

I never get weapons anymore in my pali drafts. I've done 4 in the last 2 days and never got a decent weapon to choose from.

 

[thekillermuffin]

Looking to fill a couple gaps in my collection versus newer stuff, any suggestions? I have 4200 dust left and am considering the following:

Archmage Antonidas
The Black Knight
Justicar Trueheart

Fandral Staghelm
Xaril, Poisoned Mind

I play most classes regularly and don't ladder all too seriously, but still like to win games!

I know you said "most classes", but what do you play most? Do you like to play control or aggro?

 

[suaveric]

WTF Hearthstone just gave me a 55 minute queue to get into the game. I've never seen one that long before

 

[Magnus]

Anyone else encountering problems logging on?

 

[Magnus]

WTF Hearthstone just gave me a 55 minute queue to get into the game. I've never seen one that long before

Yeah, my screen is jumping up and down from 1 min to 15 min, back down to 1, and sometimes to just the doors, but no Hearthstone logo

 

[br3wnor]

Anyone else encountering problems logging on?

Had a 2 minute wait "tables are full" but fine after that.

 

[Star Falcon]

I know you said "most classes", but what do you play most? Do you like to play control or aggro?

Control. I'd say the classes I play most are Warlock, Warrior, Druid, Rogue and Shaman.

Reason I listed Antonidas is that i'd like to try Mage more and he feels mandatory for nearly all Mage decks?

 

[LucidMomentum]

Tavern Brawl gives me Captain's Parrot but there are no Pirates in my deck.

:/

And I lose to a +10/+10 artifact. Not even mad.

 

[suaveric]

Yeah, my screen is jumping up and down from 1 min to 15 min, back down to 1, and sometimes to just the doors, but no Hearthstone logo

I tried again and got in fine. Guess they're busy today

 

[Owzers]

what's a good one drop for a renothunlock? I'm not seeing one....crazed villager? Argent squire? Flame imp to counter trogg might be the best i guess.

if i craft The Black Knight we can be certain C'thun decks die off and no one runs the twin emperor anymore to spite me.

 

[thekillermuffin]

Control. I'd say the classes I play most are Warlock, Warrior, Druid, Rogue and Shaman.

In that case, definitely 100% Justicar. She's incredibly valuable in control warrior, helping to outlast your opponent.

I've heard good things about Fandral Staghelm, but I don't play enough Druid to say. I opened Xaril though, so I'll be tinkering around with that this weekend.

The Black Knight is a niche tech card that might become useful depending on how the meta stabilizes.

Antonidas is an incredibly valuable card, and a must-have staple in certain popular mage decks (tempo, freeze here and there).

 

[Orochinagis]

Managed to survive the two wins for 5 extra packs, got some legendary cards for paladin and huh...Nzog or whatever its name

 

[echoshifting]

Anyone else encountering problems logging on?

Yeah I got stuck in a b.net queue, got through it now I'm stuck on the splash screen

 

[_DrMario_]

Stuck at the splash screen after my game crashed.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Managed to survive the two wins for 5 extra packs, got some legendary cards for paladin and huh...Nzog or whatever its name

In all 15 I got 1 Epic...

 

[Ashodin]

Wow Illidan is kicking ass in this deck lol

I need Nexus-Champion Saraad now for dat Inspire/spell value.

 

[Orochinagis]

BTW it is really necessary to have C thun and its cards giving buffs in your deck?

 

[Drkirby]

Oh, that looks great, I never thought about using Illidan in Bubble Paladin deck. I should see if I can stuff him in.

 

[Zoggy]

malkorok is my favorite legendary tbh

never got a cursed blade yet, but getting gladiators longbow or gorehowl is pretty good brehs

also rogue players, sapping cthun is NOT a good idea

 

[Professor Lich]

Wow Illidan is kicking ass in this deck lol

I need Nexus-Champion Saraad now for dat Inspire/spell value.

I mentioned it before, but Twilight Drake and Faceless Shambler work with Steward of Darkshire. Probably not a worthwhile combo but I think it's cool nonetheless.

 

[Ashodin]

I mentioned it before, but Twilight Drake and Faceless Shambler work with Steward of Darkshire. Probably not a worthwhile combo but I think it's cool nonetheless.

ohhhh twilight drake. sick tech

 

[Apathy]

I think Control Paladin is stronger now then it was with the bs cards that left Standard. Forbidden Healing is ridiculous.

Best forbidden card in my books. It's stupid strong.

 

[Xamtheking]

ohhhh twilight drake. sick tech

midnight drake + hobgoblin super tech

 

[Dart]

Golden shifting shades look really nice

 

[Star Falcon]

In that case, definitely 100% Justicar. She's incredibly valuable in control warrior, helping to outlast your opponent.

I've heard good things about Fandral Staghelm, but I don't play enough Druid to say. I opened Xaril though, so I'll be tinkering around with that this weekend.

The Black Knight is a niche tech card that might become useful depending on how the meta stabilizes.

Antonidas is an incredibly valuable card, and a must-have staple in certain popular mage decks (tempo, freeze here and there).

Thanks a lot - I grabbed Justicar and I'll sleep on the choice for others for now

 

[Professor Lich]

ohhhh twilight drake. sick tech

What does your deck look like? I really like the idea of Divine Shield Paladin but I'm not a huge fan of more aggressive decks.

 

[LucidMomentum]

Golden shifting shades look really nice

When your squad's on point.

3/5 wins for the tavern brawl challenge. SmOrc hunter too good.

 

[Ashodin]

midnight drake + hobgoblin super tech

In wild, sure

What does your deck look like? I really like the idea of Divine Shield Paladin but I'm not a huge fan of more aggressive decks.

Here's my deck.

 

[Acerac]

Lol oh shit

I hate that shit

Yeah, roping is a real douchebag move.

 

[Professor Lich]

Here's my deck.

Thanks! I don't have all the card but I'll give it a shot!

 

[Heropon]

Finally, after a year of playing I have defeated the 10 wins wall in Arena and I finally can say that I got the Lightforge Key!

The deck:

+ Psych-o-Tron, Silver Hand Knight, Argent Commander, Nerubian Prophet, Piloted Sky Golem and Stormwind Champion.

The rewards were 415 gold, a classic pack and the mandatory Old Gods pack.

I'm so happy and it's funny that the class had to be Shaman. I've always had a soft spot for it and now I know why.

 

[Ashodin]

The Light and Darkbanes are actually REALLY good to coin out on Turn 2. Their 4 toughness makes the opponent take pause, and enchanting them with Divine Strength or something makes it ezpz to get their ability off.