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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
- Thread starter ZealousD
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MrPing1000
Member
I know it's random, but boy does Priest suck giant balls in this weeks tavern brawl.
thekillermuffin
Member
I feel like I'll try it out in the near future, but in the meantime I'm too busy enjoying the lack of Dr. Boom, shielded minibot, muster for battle, imp-losion, piloted shredder, etc.
thekillermuffin
Member
They recently updated the Arena rules where you're guaranteed a pack from the most recent expansion now.
Orochinagis
Member
Oh, the Nzog dude needs cards who have effects after dying to use its ability.... my mage doesnt have that ones
Netdecking without understanding the deck you're piloting is a big mistake. I just played vs a zoo player using the most common ladder list right now against my Midrange/Evolve Shaman... and he played a strict board control game, suiciding all his tiny little minions into my high health minions over and over. He would have easily won if he went face but instead I was able to stabilize, take the board and easily roll over him after he was down to playing whatever two cards he drew per turn.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I had win 5 of mage/hunter, priest/warlock and druid/rogue respectively. Priest and mage were easy imo. Rogue was a bitch.
You say this now and then you lightning storm all his low health minions and laugh and laugh.
Awesome. Guess I'll do some arena runs then.
Not a chance. Those cards are all dead to me.
daemissary
Member
I'm sure I'll go back to wild in the future but standard is so fresh and new that I haven't played wild yet.
Give it a month when all of the standard decks are fully optimized and everyone is playing brainless face decks again and I'm sure I'll fiddle around in Wild.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Turns out Freeze Mage is still total horseshit. Alex should've been nerfed into the ground.
BananasWithGuns
Member
I like how board clears went from being shit because of all the sticky minions to being shit because of all the overstatted minions lol.
Blizzard just does not want board clears to ever be good I guess.
Blizzard just does not want board clears to ever be good I guess.
Karsticles
Member
Now imagine if Priests got some!
Maybe he's learning the deck. I know that every turn Shadowform is in my hand I have to ask myself: "Is it this turn, or do I need my healing longer?" Especially if he's new, he has to learn when to go face or play the board through experimentation.
Karsticles
Member
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Is there really a meta?
Not right now, I think I'll wait till I'm sick of standard to give wild a crack. Right now Wild is just GvG and Naxx, hopefully in a few months it will be a nice blend of GvG + WotOG + Naxx.
C'Thun, C'Thun, C'Thun!
- Disciple of C'Thun on the current standard meta
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
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How the hell else are you supposed to figure out how to play a deck? You need practice.
This is a major problem with the "light/shadow" theme they have going on. So long as Soul Priest exists, they can never print giant heals for the class synonymous with healing. Instead, Paladin, the offense/tank/heal hybrid, and Warrior, the offense/tank hybrid, are far better at keeping themselves alive in terms of raw health.
lol forbidden healing in priest with shadowpriest would be crazy
I don't know, they could just make the cards not able to target the enemy.
Really, they need to give Priest a way to raise their max HP, or gain armor. A Legendary that uncapps your HP would be a great boon (Or more realistically, doubles it, unless they want to chage Reno/Tree of Life's card text)
SkullHydra
Member
Holy crap, yes. I tried to get my daily Priest wins quite a few times before just giving up. Priests need some freaking early drops.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Has Brode even said why Doomhammer wasn't nerfed?
Because seriously, there's no logical reason why it shouldn't have been.
Because seriously, there's no logical reason why it shouldn't have been.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
playing OHKO paladin seems balanced
what's that?
CelticKnight
Member
All I'm seeing tonight is Zoolock and Evolve Shamans. Guess it's already started to settle down, sadly...
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Basically just a n'zoth deck with tons of healing, till i bring everything back for 30 damage...im sure people are already running similar things
Went on a neat streak from 10 to 8. No one respects the spell damage.
They should just nerf Rockbiter, its will be the same thing
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Im still seeing a lot of variety. At least one C'thun deck of each class, beast hunters, rogues who i dont know what they were doing, shamans, mages
Well, he has no way to win if he trades every turn, and even if I clear his board he can just reload and crush me.
Yeah, I guess I was a bit harsh. I certainly understand that it takes time to learn a deck, but he was playing an aggro deck as if it was a control deck and it caught me off guard. He threw the game, as I never drew any answers for his board, but he kept clearing his own board every turn. I actually started ignoring his board and going face since he was so committed to board control, and it's what won me the game.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Well, nerfing arcane golem did nothing while people just transition to leeroy combos.
Blizzard didn't say it, but it isn't really a 2x auto-include in every Shaman deck or anything. The card is not an obstacle to deck variety in Shaman. It doesn't really hurt their design space at all. Honestly burst has been a core part of Shaman's identity for a long time because of the windfury mechanic. If people didn't complain about Doomhammer they'd start complaining about Al'Akir instead.
Karsticles
Member
Yeah, the only thing it limits is attack buffs that target the hero/weapon. And Blizard can simply just not give any more to Shaman.
call_kotaku
Member
doomhammer should apply 1 overload every time you attack with it
Doomhammer and Al'Akir were both very popular burst finishers at one time. Doomhammer has a bigger target on its head these days only because Shaman is so much faster now than it used to be. The core "issue" here is Tunnel Trogg. Pre-LOE a face Shaman deck wasn't really viable at a competitive level.
I think Doomhammer is fine. It has overload and is really only insane if they save BOTH Rock biters to use with it. Otherwise 10 Dmg burst is equivalent to a Pyroblast but takes 2 cards and is semi-prevented by taunt.
Its a really powerful combo, but not even close to broken (yet). The midrange and aggro Shaman decks are just really powerful (thanks 7/7, lolbalance), while lots of the other archetypes are not dialed in the same way atm.
Its a really powerful combo, but not even close to broken (yet). The midrange and aggro Shaman decks are just really powerful (thanks 7/7, lolbalance), while lots of the other archetypes are not dialed in the same way atm.
Vanillalite
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Murloc Knight still puts in mega work in arena. If they don't clear it ASAP it can spiral out of control fast.
Creating heals that only target friendly characters would get around it. Leave smaller bursts available for shadows but big ones for friendlies.
Ironically I'm thinking why Rag, lightlord wasn't Priest. That design suits them just as well if not better.
Vanillalite
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The problem with the overload mechanic is it was too UP and totally fucked Shaman. Then they added in those unlock mana cards which can make Shaman OP.
Now you can just drop that minion that unlocks your crystals and be like yolo who cares about overload.
I still think Shaman needs a rework to be really balanced. Class is either best class or worse class it seems.
thekillermuffin
Member
Can confirm that N'Zoth Control Paladin is bonkers good. My Ragnaros, Lightlord also single-handedly won me a game against a priest that went to fatigue. Really fun deck to play too.