Patron against aggro the match up isn't too bad. Shaman can be a problem though.
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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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irfaanator
Banned
yea it was the list posted on competitivehs subreddit. It doesnt have cairne, but the list is here
http://imgur.com/psXKx26
zeta runs something similar
Looks fun! Was going to sac a bunch of stuff to try and craft Fandral, but will craft a second EtS instead! So little AoE and fewer uses for CoH, but more targeted removal with Shadow aspect...I'd be lying if I said I haven't been looking forward to ASP + Corrupted Healbot...
Thanks for the list!
Probably gonna feel weak after Nzoth Paladin, but at least it's Priest!
irfaanator
Banned
The other control priest decks are zetas, he only has 1 EtS
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/zetalots-wotog-standard-control-priest/
and kolentos
https://manacrystals.com/decklists/420-kolento-s-n-zoth-priest
Zeta runs a bit more midrange version, where as kolento is full nzoth, but sadly no EtS
Karsticles
Member
One of the tooltips:
"In Standard, strategies are constantly evolving."
EVOLVING!
Also, Control Shaman >>>> Control Priest tonight.
"In Standard, strategies are constantly evolving."
EVOLVING!
Also, Control Shaman >>>> Control Priest tonight.
Throw in 1 copy of Forbidden Shaping and play it on turn 8. Now you're a Paladin.
A problem I've noticed with some of the C'Thun decks I've tried is that if you can't get your C'Thun out, they don't really have another way to finish off the opponent.
With that in mind I thought I'd have a go at trying to create a C'Thun deck with a backup plan.
This is my first attempt at seriously trying to create a deck, rather than just slapping something together for some silly quest requirement, so I'm sure it's awful. Please go easy on me (let's all just take the "you're an idiot, why would you put THAT in there?" as read and offer some constructive suggestions?)
With that in mind I thought I'd have a go at trying to create a C'Thun deck with a backup plan.
This is my first attempt at seriously trying to create a deck, rather than just slapping something together for some silly quest requirement, so I'm sure it's awful. Please go easy on me (let's all just take the "you're an idiot, why would you put THAT in there?" as read and offer some constructive suggestions?)
Karsticles
Member
Good idea. 8-cost cards are minimal, and it has the least number of lemons you can get. You might get REALLY lucky and get Ragnaros.
Karsticles
Member
Saw this on reddit and got a chuckle:
N'Zoth > C'Thun > Rage-guy > Yogg
Damn! I think N'Zoth is the best Old God.Or better yet:
N'Zoth > C'Thun > Rage-guy > Yogg
In Arena!
The Hearthstone dev team clearly values evolve much lower than the community currently does. It feels like they have valued it at 0 mana basically.
hypersheep
Member
Had two times now where I frostbolted a twilight elder and then used arcane missiles to try to ping it down, only for all three missiles to miss. I would replace arcane missile with arcane blast, but I never opened one and I can't bear using 800 dust to craft two.
Karsticles
Member
Ice Lance?
If you're using two copies of missiles and mirror you should probably put in flamewaker? Maybe remove one flamestrike and one skeram cultist.
(Or just go full tempo and ditch all the cthun cards)
OK, I'll try that.
I don't have the cards or dust to do a proper/classic tempo mage, I feel like with C'Thun the playing field is levelled a bit.
TheSadRanger
Banned
Warlockstone is a fun game....
edit: THATS IT, I'M FUCKING SPECCING EVERYTHING ANTI WARLOCK AGRO.
2nd edit: every time I do that though I run into c'thun druids and end up being screwed late game :/
edit: THATS IT, I'M FUCKING SPECCING EVERYTHING ANTI WARLOCK AGRO.
2nd edit: every time I do that though I run into c'thun druids and end up being screwed late game :/
toddhunter
Member
Here is my current list. Taunts are essentially anti-hunter/shaman and I'm seeing a heap of face warrior.
2x Backstab
1x Prep
2x shadowstep
1x Sir Finley
2x Evis
2x Sap
2x Beckoner
1x Fan of Knives
1x Shadow Strike
1x Brann
2x Disciple of C'thun
1x Farseer
2x SI Agent
2x C'thun chosen
2x Crazed Worshipper
1x Sylvanas
1x Sprint
1x Twin Emperors
2x Blade of C'thun
1x C'thun
Anything you are doing different? Crazed Worshipper should read:
5 mana 3/6: Battlecry, turn red after being played while your opponent tries to work out what the fuck it is.
hypersheep
Member
I also had it happen with Forgotten Torch. I just need that 1 mana ping and sometimes arcane missiles decides to SMOrc it up.
Going against a freeze mage, I'm playing malyrogue, I played really well, there was no way I could lose, both iceblock gone and I was out of range of any burn he could possibly play.... he plays yogg saron. that goes ahead to buff itself then give itself charge for exact lethal.
Fuck you Ben Brode and this clown fiesta.
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This OGN thing is actually happening right now but it's wild format, lol.
Fuck you Ben Brode and this clown fiesta.
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This OGN thing is actually happening right now but it's wild format, lol.
toddhunter
Member
I just had a mage drop that at 1 health. Every single spell was perfect for killing my minions, damaging me and buffing what he had on board. He also drew like 6 cards.
Then last spell was smite to own face.
Love it.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
I need a golden rag lightlord, i love this card
I just saw a suuuuuper weird Yogg interaction on Sjow's stream. He had sylvanas up and the opponent's Yogg soulfired her and did arcane explosion which stole him. Then he casted sprint but Sjow actually drew the cards, the rest of the spells actually were being casted by him.
Well, I guess since it's yogg saron that is casting the spell whatever card it draws goes to side of the board he's on.
homeworkfilms
Member
I am pretty convinced that Darkshire councilman with tentacles will see some sort of nerf. Easiest to see his health reduced 1 point to make him easier to kill.
Fragamemnon
Member
Yogg's effect is weird in that the result of each of his spells are resolved in full (that is, the rest of the chain of events that might trigger after a spell is cast) before the next spell starts.
Not always. Healing Wave is apparently cast after all other spells because a Joust will happen last.
If you have 3 health and Yogg casts Healing Wave on your face and then Hellfire, you will die and Healing Wave will never actually heal you.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Why doesn't fatigue hurt health directly? How are you supposed to outlive a justicar'd warrior and it should be forbidden for the last card in your deck to be Lay on Hands, 8 for heal 2 is inappropriate
I'm pretty sure you still have to play double keeper in druid. It's your best board control tool, without it you can't really change the board state, all druid has going for it is mana and playing stuff on curve, when it falls behind it's so hard to come back, you need cards like keepers. Maybe in C'Thun decks you can only play one since you have the 2/1s that deal 2 damage, having access to two silence is still really valuable.
The nerf on the body makes it much worse against aggressive decks and it was the card that helped a lot in those games but elsewhere it's still really good. I think deck builders will come around to it after a while. It's like post nerfs, no one wants to touch any of those cards for some reason. I don't think lore is worth playing anymore but keeper is still doing what it used to do for the same mana cost.
The nerf on the body makes it much worse against aggressive decks and it was the card that helped a lot in those games but elsewhere it's still really good. I think deck builders will come around to it after a while. It's like post nerfs, no one wants to touch any of those cards for some reason. I don't think lore is worth playing anymore but keeper is still doing what it used to do for the same mana cost.
Or better yet:
How are you getting 2 Tyrions here?
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/520275-are-you-yshaarjtin-me
One of those drafts where I'm hesitant to actually start playing it because of how ridiculous it is.
One of those drafts where I'm hesitant to actually start playing it because of how ridiculous it is.
Forbidden Shaping.
toddhunter
Member
I agree. Without that, it'll really be the cycle of ramp druid. When people play it, people will counter with removal or other tools so it falls behind and can't keep up. So then people will stop playing this new deck and it'll start working again.
The good C'Thun decks will be like old Patron Warrior or Secret Paladin. They'll "something else" to kill you with C'thun just another win condition. Without combo, druid doesn't really have that.
A c'thun priest that goes face instead of trading against a hunter. Sorry dude, just because I have an obvious snake trap doesn't mean you should ignore my board, especially if I don't have a bow equipped.
Who knew turn 8 Call of the Wild while having a board would be game-winning, huh?
Who knew turn 8 Call of the Wild while having a board would be game-winning, huh?
Smooth Operator
Member
That 2 damage Imp-losion @ OGN
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Non-flexible is right, it is so goddamn predictable to play against and it hasn't even been a week since release.