How Greed Destroyed Xbox

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Probably one of the best recent examples summarizing in as concise a way as possible how Xbox lost its way, starting with the late 360 era and beyond.


Because why not have one more Xbox thread on here?
 
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He is still one of those
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The problem is they quit competing with high quality games. It's like that leaked email about the meeting where they said they cant' compete with TLOU.
They're not doing what needs to happen to compete with high end games, so they're trying to do mediocre games to keep a subscription base sated.
Phil has to go cause he convinced himself making AAA bangers "won't move the needle" cause they lost the "worst generation to lose".

That's loser mentality. Nintendo never let you keep your digital library and they were always fine, cause they would just keep making system seller games.
All they need is consistent system seller games, and even their leader is telling them to not even bother trying.
 
If Microsoft had their way, Xbox Kinect would be a living room sensation and fitness games would be the yearly best sellers. Honestly, it's a wholesome timeline, it just didn't pan out. But Xbox has been smoked since the 360 planning phase. Just be happy we got the OG. The further we get away from it, the more I appreciate it as an absolutely amazing machine. King of the consoles? The Last Console. It was never sustainable in that form. Too pure. It was a machine made by competent people passionate about gaming and very good at their jobs. The 360 commodified it and flayed its soul for Xbox Live revenue and Turtle Beach headsets marketing crossovers.
 
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Magic-DEI-Hire said:
See post #5 😎

As a former Xbox gamer for two decades, Microsoft had their chance and fumbled it so many times over.

At least everything is an Xbox now!
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You're free to hate all you want. I'm just amazed your ears were able to tolerate that yapping for 40 minutes. I tapped out after 20 seconds but I had headphones.
 
I didn't watch the video and I'm not going to because the thumbnail looks stupid, but I think greed is more a symptom than the cause of Xbox's lowly state.
 
Kacho said:
You're free to hate all you want. I'm just amazed your ears were able to tolerate that yapping for 40 minutes. I tapped out after 20 seconds but I had headphones.
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I've heard worse voices on YouTube. Any "hatred" is merely aimed at Microsoft / Satya Nadella, who is responsible for current day Xbox and Windows.
 
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ByWatterson said:
How does this guy yell and yell this fast for 40 minutes.

Plus it's all stuff we've seen before. Weird video.
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I'm pretty sure it has cuts but edited well to sound like one continuous take. Watched it all, it was a funny summary of what has happened with xbox the last couple of years.
 
I was an early adopter of the Xbox "fat boy" and the xbox 360.

The Xbox had so much momentum in the 360 era, they became way to arrogant and it blew up in their face. The Xbone turned so many off and it got worse from there. They totally lost their way with the Series consoles. To add to that, they also became extremely woke and tone deaf to their core audience.
 
Magic-DEI-Hire said:


Probably one of the best recent examples summarizing in as concise a way as possible how Xbox lost its way, starting with the late 360 era and beyond.


Because why not have one more Xbox thread on here?
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How? The cheapest deals as far as I know cause HH is dead, Steam crazy deals are gone, Sony with it's variable pricing, Nintendo with it's endless original price tag. They pretty much compete with Loaded.
 
Gamer79 said:
I was an early adopter of the Xbox "fat boy" and the xbox 360.

The Xbox had so much momentum in the 360 era, they became way to arrogant and it blew up in their face. The Xbone turned so many off and it got worse from there. They totally lost their way with the Series consoles. To add to that, they also became extremely woke and tone deaf to their core audience.
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The second half the xbox one life time felt like nothing but damage control, xbox games going multi-plat with pc, crossplay, BC, and of course buying every studio possible.

With the series it feels like they said fuck it and are focusing way less on overall sales and trying to make xbox a premium device (but ya know…without an actual reason to own one over a ps5 or pc, except for gAme PaSs)

Like say what you want ps5 only reverting the ps5 prices to launch prices for BF, but xbox didnt do shit.
I'd much rather buy a $450 physical ps5 over a $650 series x
 
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Eh. Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft,,, every brand is worst than the last if you want to start a oneupmanship. If/when Xbox leaves the gaming industry we'll all be losers and worst off as consumers in a market with less competition. Xbox has done many QoL and Pro-Consumer advancements over the last few years but people conveniently ignore them. I've had a blast with my Xbox Series S (and later X) since buying in Nov 2022. Great games, great communities, great UI, great controller, great backwards compatibility.

Edit: I have a PS5 and NS as well. They're both gathering dust.
 
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Magic-DEI-Hire said:
It's alright, Microsoft would probably need competent AI to try to begin to understand what their consumer base actually wants.
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Brother, I doubt anyone at Microsoft cares that you tortured yourself by watching what most of us couldn't for more than 7 seconds.

There may be some people at the local mental hospital, though.
 
As if Sony never reaised the prices of their consoles 5 years later, raised their subscription twice so far since the release of PS5, Switch 2 raising their prices of accessories 10 days before console release etc. This whole generation is GREED.
 
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Gamer_By_Proxy said:
The problem is they quit competing with high quality games. It's like that leaked email about the meeting where they said they cant' compete with TLOU.
They're not doing what needs to happen to compete with high end games, so they're trying to do mediocre games to keep a subscription base sated.
Phil has to go cause he convinced himself making AAA bangers "won't move the needle" cause they lost the "worst generation to lose".

That's loser mentality. Nintendo never let you keep your digital library and they were always fine, cause they would just keep making system seller games.
All they need is consistent system seller games, and even their leader is telling them to not even bother trying.
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100%. I couldn't believe their mentality on TLOU. They had made Gears and Halo so it's not like the concept of a killer app was foreign to them at all. All they had to do was find/create the next IP that was on that level but they just folded.

Imagine how different things could've been if they had just invested 0.5B in 2-3 system sellers early on (2014-15). If they had games to counter UC4, Horizon, and GOW maybe Sony doesn't gain such a massive hardware advantage and so MS doesn't buy Activision nor Bethesda. MS maybe could've saved themselves 75B had they spent more money early enough.
 
No, it's not greed. It's stupidity, incompetence, arrogance from those who controlled and control Xbox...

They were never competent, they just had luck.

The Xbox 360 was luck, plain and simple.

Microsoft's luck ran out and Xbox never succeeded again. Windows Phone, Bing, aQuantive, Zune; these, for example, never had luck.
 
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As if Sony never reaised the prices of their consoles 5 years later, raised their subscription twice so far since the release of PS5, Switch 2 raising their prices of accessories 10 days before console release etc. This whole generation is GREED.
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My friend, even you have to admit that $799 for a Series X is some unmatched greed especially when a PS5 Pro is less expensive than it. A moment where MS should have got more aggressive in pricing to compete they chose to be more expensive than the competition. Not even AMD is that greedy/stupid. Same with $80 games or $30 per month for gamepass. If you watch the vid thats the price of 5 AAA games at full price in a year. Who would rent a MS picked list of games instead of buying and owning 5 full price $70 games they pick themselves every year? or even more if they buy games on sale.
 
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It was greed, arrogance, incompetence and

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Though rather than incompetence it's probably fairer to say they just didn't have sufficient competence (the incredibly high level required) to pull off the highly aggressive move they attempted. They rolled the dice on a gambit (Game Pass backed by huge financial muscle) which potentially would have left them transforming and dominating the market. Thankfully it did not work and appears to have backfired horribly, but there are probably a few timelines where they did pull it off.
 
San Dan Glokta said:
Eh. Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft,,, every brand is worst than the last if you want to start a oneupmanship. If/when Xbox leaves the gaming industry we'll all be losers and worst off as consumers in a market with less competition. Xbox has done many QoL and Pro-Consumer advancements over the last few years but people conveniently ignore them. I've had a blast with my Xbox Series S (and later X) since buying in Nov 2022. Great games, great communities, great UI, great controller, great backwards compatibility.

Edit: I have a PS5 and NS as well. They're both gathering dust.
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Are you serious to hold these people accountable? Amateurs understands the destructive language better than adults cause they haven't earned what they have or aren't pro savers.
 
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