How will the Next Legend of Zelda fit in with Wind Waker?

Orin GA

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Hyrule was completly destroyed in wind waker, and Ganon did not have the triforce of power, "the one thing that kept him from dying" when link drove the Master Sword into his head. New Kingdom, all new End Boss? Thoughts?
 
I can't tell you how much I'd like to see a new world with completely unique locations, NPCs, and enemies.

I want Nintendo to stray far from the details that defined old zelda titles and give us something new so we'll be saying "Wow" instead of "Oh".

I want Nintendo to reach deep within their creativity and pull out a game unlike any other. I want Zelda to REEK of the originality that Pikmin does.
 
Orin GA said:
Hyrule was completly destroyed in wind waker, and Ganon did not have the triforce of power, "the one thing that kept him from dying" when link drove the Master Sword into his head. New Kingdom, all new End Boss? Thoughts?

Does it have to tie in?
 
Orin GA said:
Hyrule was completly destroyed in wind waker, and Ganon did not have the triforce of power, "the one thing that kept him from dying" when link drove the Master Sword into his head. New Kingdom, all new End Boss? Thoughts?

The original Legend of Zelda (NES) took place after The Wind Waker and had Ganon so I don't see why the new one can't have him also.
 
The opening scene will show flashes of wind Waker. Then Adult Link with tats and everything will jerk out of his alcholic stupor lying in a bed next to a sleeping naked Malon. "That was some fucked up dream!" Link will mutter as he struggles to his feet and pulls on his tunic. He stumbles out and starts getting on his faithful steed Pain when suddenly an Octork attacks him.

Link being hung over and all can't put up a fight and gets pinned to the ground. Then Gannon comes out pulling Zelda by her hair, rapes her in front of Link then cuts her head off. Tosses it at Link and strides away laughing.

Link finally breaks free of the Octork rushes over to Zelda's head, cradles it with muffled sobs then raises it over his head and screams NOOAUAUUGUUAUUGH while thunder and lightning flashes


Scene fades to blood dripping Triforce logo followed by the subtitle SADDLE OF VENGANCE.

So... yeah, Wind Waker was Link's fucked up dream.
 
Judging by all that we've seen, this Link looks like the Hero of Time all grown up. Meaning it'd probably be a sequel to MM, and a prequel to TWW.
 
Ganon can be in any time period because in OoT the composer brothers say that he stole their song that allows time travel.
 
Azih said:
The opening scene will show flashes of wind Waker. Then Adult Link with tats and everything will jerk out of his alcholic stupor lying in a bed next to a sleeping naked Malon. "That was some fucked up dream!" Link will mutter as he struggles to his feet and pulls on his tunic. He stumbles out and starts getting on his faithful steed Pain when suddenly an Octork attacks him.

Link being hung over and all can't put up a fight and gets pinned to the ground. Then Gannon comes out pulling Zelda by her hair, rapes her in front of Link then cuts her head off. Tosses it at Link and strides away laughing.

Link finally breaks free of the Octork rushes over to Zelda's head, cradles it with muffled sobs then raises it over his head and screams NOOAUAUUGUUAUUGH while thunder and lightning flashes


Scene fades to blood dripping Triforce logo followed by the subtitle SADDLE OF VENGANCE.

So... yeah, Wind Waker was Link's fucked up dream.


:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Saddle of Vengance? LMAO, only on GAF.
 
AniHawk said:
Judging by all that we've seen, this Link looks like the Hero of Time all grown up. Meaning it'd probably be a sequel to MM, and a prequel to TWW.
Actually this Link looks like Wind Waker Link all grown up, look at the hair.

haircompare.jpg
 
AniHawk said:
Judging by all that we've seen, this Link looks like the Hero of Time all grown up. Meaning it'd probably be a sequel to MM, and a prequel to TWW.

If that's true then it can't take place in Hyrule since the opening sequence of TWW said that the Hero of Time never returned.
 
Azih said:
The opening scene will show flashes of wind Waker. Then Adult Link with tats and everything will jerk out of his alcholic stupor lying in a bed next to a sleeping naked Malon. "That was some fucked up dream!" Link will mutter as he struggles to his feet and pulls on his tunic. He stumbles out and starts getting on his faithful steed Pain when suddenly an Octork attacks him.

Link being hung over and all can't put up a fight and gets pinned to the ground. Then Gannon comes out pulling Zelda by her hair, rapes her in front of Link then cuts her head off. Tosses it at Link and strides away laughing.

Link finally breaks free of the Octork rushes over to Zelda's head, cradles it with muffled sobs then raises it over his head and screams NOOAUAUUGUUAUUGH while thunder and lightning flashes


Scene fades to blood dripping Triforce logo followed by the subtitle SADDLE OF VENGANCE.

So... yeah, Wind Waker was Link's fucked up dream.

I'll buy two copies
 
Grubdog said:
Well, not sure if that's what they were talking about, but it could have been that.

I'm pretty sure that's what it is. Ganondorf'd need to have a time travel device to play it on.

The reason he's able to be in different times and still be the same guy is because he keeps getting sealed away/trapped instead of killed (until the end of LoZ or ALttP- take your choice).
 
AniHawk said:
I'm pretty sure that's what it is. Ganondorf'd need to have a time travel device to play it on.

The reason he's able to be in different times and still be the same guy is because he keeps getting sealed away/trapped instead of killed (until the end of LoZ or ALttP- take your choice).

In Zelda 2 we learn that even if he's killed there's a way to bring him back (by sprinkling Link's blood on his ashes) so we can never count him out of a game.
 
Now that I think of it... Did the Master Sword turn Ganon into stone, or did he do it to prevent death ?
 
Fuzzy said:
If that's true then it can't take place in Hyrule since the opening sequence of TWW said that the Hero of Time never returned.

Maybe everyone thought he never returned because he never succeeded.
 
Being a Zelda fan from the NES days, I've learned just to chuck continuity out the window and not think too hard about it.
 
"1000 years in the past a guy named Link (an ancestor of Link) is out to save the Princess Zelda (an ancestor of Zelda) from the evil Ganondoogle. Link has to uncover the triforce of wisdom to combat Ganondoogle's triforce of power. Will he succeed? Only time will tell."
 
I don't know, but the triforce better be able to play mp3s, video, have wifi, analog and have a good battery life or GAFers will get upset.
 
This is abit OT, but I think Nintendo with EAD really want to show the world again what they are made of and create another masterful Zelda game. I believe in the force of Aonuma and Miyamoto.
 
Foobar said:
The director is still currently unnamed, if I'm not mistaken.

I actually think it's Mitsuhiro Takano. I did a search and that's what Shikamaru Ninja and JasoNsider came up with.
 
Deepthroat said:
Is Aonuma the director of Wind Waker? Is he directing the new Zelda? :S

No. The confirmed director of the new zelda is the guy who was responsible for the story of Majora's Mask.(I don't remember his name) I believe IGN confirmed it in a mailbag or an interview a few months back....
 
Foobar said:
The director is still currently unnamed, if I'm not mistaken.

No, he was the scenario writer for TWW or something. Aonuma is on board as a producer. Shiggy is probably just overseeing the entire project and dropping suggestions here and there.
 
AniHawk said:
No, he was the scenario writer for TWW or something. Aonuma is on board as a producer. Shiggy is probably just overseeing the entire project and dropping suggestions here and there.

Takano


Mitsuhiro Takano - Director - Nintendo EAD

Mitsuhiro Takano is making his directorial debut on The Legend of Zelda for the Nintendo GameCube. Takano has worked for both Nintendo R&D2 and Nintendo EAD in his 7 year tenure as everything from a script writer, graphic designer, to assistant director. Takano spoke briefly of his project and mentioned the development team was working very hard on expanding the controls and hoped to fully utilize the GameCube controller. It shall be interesting to see how one third of the original The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask creative designers does with the new Zelda now that Eiji Aonuma and Yoshiaki Koizumi have moved on to other projects.

http://www.n-sider.com/articleview.php?articleid=21

It was later known that Takano stepped down from the director role and Aonuma took over. Takano is likley getting another shot at the new zelda.
 
En-ou said:
the zeldas do not necessarily have to fit in with eachother. dont you know?

Except that's a goal of EAD to tie the games together.
 
GaimeGuy said:
No. The confirmed director of the new zelda is the guy who was responsible for the story of Majora's Mask.(I don't remember his name) I believe IGN confirmed it in a mailbag or an interview a few months back....
Takashi Tezuka?
 
En-ou said:
the zeldas do not necessarily have to fit in with eachother. dont you know?

Agreed, I don't really care to much about huge story tie-ins, but I do love all the different little connections certain characters have with each other between different games though. Like seeing the Postman's ancestor in Wind Waker, I loved that. :lol
 
hobbitx said:
Agreed, I don't really care to much about huge story tie-ins, but I do love all the different little connections certain characters have with each other between different games though. Like seeing the Postman's ancestor in Wind Waker, I loved that. :lol
ancestor? :P
 
meh, why is it 4 months left to E3. I want to see more of Zelda.

Is the secrety of the new Zelda a record for Nintendo? N wasn't this secret with OoT and Wind Waker. 3 screens in one year. Of an old trailer on top of that.
 
olimario said:
I can't tell you how much I'd like to see a new world with completely unique locations, NPCs, and enemies.

I want Nintendo to stray far from the details that defined old zelda titles and give us something new so we'll be saying "Wow" instead of "Oh".

I want Nintendo to reach deep within their creativity and pull out a game unlike any other. I want Zelda to REEK of the originality that Pikmin does.


I totally Agree!!


The on problem I have with the flagship Zelda titles is they all have the same story with minor differences.

My main hope for this game is a totally different story, Gannon could make an appearance but not as the “bad guy” maybe as just a piece of a larger story and maybe an unexpected ally setting up for a betrayal at the end for the game, setting the scene for the a squeal.

As for the location Hyrule is fine for me, they reinvent it in each game, Plus WW wasn’t set in a traditional Hyrule anyway.
 
GaimeGuy said:
ancestor? :P

I was talking about the mail sorter guy from Dragon Roost island. If you look closely at his face you can see the funny resemblance and the info from his figurine kinda confirms it.

My main hope for this game is a totally different story, Gannon could make an appearance but not as the “bad guy” maybe as just a piece of a larger story and maybe an unexpected ally setting up for a betrayal at the end for the game, setting the scene for the a squeal.

I'd also like it if they mixed things up a bit. I'd love it if they switched up the roles a little, I'd love to see an evil version of Zelda.
 
AniHawk said:
Except for FSA. Seems like they're letting Capcom create their own little timeline dealy.
Something I haven't really seen mentioned elsewhere - the fact sheet Nintendo sent along with Minish Cap states that it ties the Four Swords titles into the overall Zelda mythology.
 
hobbitx said:
I was talking about the mail sorter guy from Dragon Roost island. If you look closely at his face you can see the funny resemblance and the info from his figurine kinda confirms it.

I'm pretty sure he was poking fun because you used the term ancestor instead of descendant.
 
I'm not sure if I can handle another weaksauce PRINCESS ZELDA/TRIFORCE story if Ganon doesn't go the whole hog (pun intended) and start destroying the cities in game (time factored gameplay... you vs time/ganon). The worst you do, the more of Hyrule gets changes/destroy/villagers die. Insert challenges where you'd be in mid-dungeon and Ganon will attack a town and you'd have to Ocarina out to go fight his troops/save the city. Fail and GET PENALISED. In WW... the absence of any sort of threat is a bit lacking - in OOT, we see that Ganon is winning as teen link and Majora's is definitely a universe in danger. Instead of a perceived threat Ganon who never does squat; make him truly vicious and leave the kids gloves off.

I think the greatest danger the Zelda series faces is becoming too samey. Same gameplay mechanics; same items; same plot; samish. OOT--->MM--->WW were still okay and great fun but the next couple of Zeldas really needs some sort of upgrade; considering how much fun Minish Cap's Zelda formae is to play.


AND FUCKING BUMP UP THE DIFFICULTY OR LET THERE BE A HARD MODE OFF THE BAT.
 
Actually, what'd I like to see is a new approach, or at least, a different take. Instead of Ganon being the central villain, a new, darker, more sinister force appears. An entity so powerful that it requires the power of the Triforce to combat it, and Link and Zelda must team up with Ganon. Of course, after you beat the entity, Ganon will betray you and he will be the final boss of the game, but it has potential in my opinion.
 
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