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[cool_dude_2049]

maybe its going to be when link really grows up.

Cuz at the end of OOT, Zelda returns him to a kid. So maybe... this is when he grows up.

???

 

[Odnetnin]

Actually, what'd I like to see is a new approach, or at least, a different take. Instead of Ganon being the central villain, a new, darker, more sinister force appears. An entity so powerful that it requires the power of the Triforce to combat it, and Link and Zelda must team up with Ganon. Of course, after you beat the entity, Ganon will betray you and he will be the final boss of the game, but it has potential in my opinion.

Leave that teaming up with the villian crap to the Mario series (with Bowser). If its a new evil and its much more powerful than Ganon; it should happen like this. It'd ruin Ganon's perception as ultimate evil if he evens helps Link

New Evil > Ganon

Gameplay.... with markers

(do well) Ganon doesn't get triforce and endboss = new evil

(badly) Ganon defeats new evil but in the narrow time frame. Link Triumph. Endboss = Ganon

(special) fufil criteria Ganon + New Evil fuse. Endboss = ???

that'd add lots of replay to the LOZ series althought the fragmented story will fracture the game's timeline.

 

[En-ou]

yeah i hope the difficulty is higher, if you want the game to be accessed by friggin dumb kids, then put a damn easy mode for them with all the obvious hints or something. sheesh

 

[Hero]

Are we still talking about timelines here? Because I could've sworn that there multiple Zelda universes.

LoZ -> LA:LoZ II

LoZ:LttP -> LoZ: Link's Awakening -> LoZ:OoS/OoA

LoZ: OoT -> LoZ:MM -> LoZ:WW

LoZ:FS -> LoZ:FSA

 

[slayn]

I think it would make gannondorf seem a bit weak if he helped link. The reverse however... might work in my eyes.


If, say, a new evil came to actually destroy the world. And Gannondorf, wanting to rule rather than destroy it, ignores link to combat this greater evil. Link, seeing this new evil as a worse threat than gannondorf, has to do something that will help gannon (who is the only one capable of even standing a chance, said evil would rip link to shreds for whatever reason) win against this new threat.


edit:
in this, gannondorf wouldn't actually be a constant part of the game, but you could have cutscenes at different points in the game showing the ongoing battle, and the world would alter depending on who was winning. Say, when gannondorf was winning the world would be more of a reflection of his ideal vision. When the other force is winning, the world is descending into hell. When they are more evenly matched, the world flickers between its natural state and that of the dark world/hell.

 

[Azelover]

TWW Ganon already destroyed his ultimate evil perception for me. He looked like a fucking circus act. At times I thought he was just kidding and playing around with the children. The Zora's ancestors looked more evil, even the gull was a better villan in that.

 

[Hero]

Ganondorf's not supposed to be pure evil. Wind Waker Ganondorf showed us that.

And it's not like I would want Link to be like 'Hey, come help us out. '

More of Ganondorf laughing maliciously as he tells Link/Zelda that Hyrule is doomed unless the three of them work together.

 

[Scrow]

Originality, charm, and polish. If you're indicating it isn't a good franchise you're wrong.

Pikmin 2 is a disappointing game overall.

Anyway, the new Zelda will probably be like a prequel to TWW but a sequel to MM.

 

[lexi]

Pikmin 2 is a disappointing game overall.

 

[Odnetnin]

that's it. I'll the the LOZ speculation to you guys.. I can't wait for the release as is.. LOZ2005 can't come soon enough. Can't think of too many titles on the horizon this year that I am excited about though. Mario 128 might be good

 

[olimario]

Pikmin 2 is a disappointing game overall.

Anyway, the new Zelda will probably be like a prequel to TWW but a sequel to MM.

Minority opinion presented as...? Can anybody tell me? Fact. The answer is fact.

 

[AniHawk]

Something I haven't really seen mentioned elsewhere - the fact sheet Nintendo sent along with Minish Cap states that it ties the Four Swords titles into the overall Zelda mythology.

What? How (if it said)?

 

[AniHawk]

Are we still talking about timelines here? Because I could've sworn that there multiple Zelda universes.

LoZ -> LA:LoZ II

LoZ:LttP -> LoZ: Link's Awakening -> LoZ:OoS/OoA

LoZ: OoT -> LoZ:MM -> LoZ:WW

LoZ:FS -> LoZ:FSA

I always thought it went:

OoT > MM > TWW > LttP > LA > LoZ > AoL

and

Spoiler

TMC

> FS > FSA

Oracles in there somewhere. Probably the first one.

 

[KiNeSiS]

Hyrule was completly destroyed in wind waker, and Ganon did not have the triforce of power, "the one thing that kept him from dying" when link drove the Master Sword into his head. New Kingdom, all new End Boss? Thoughts?

YOU DIRTY PIECE OF SHIT!!! I GOT THIS ONE ON BACKLOG!!!!
I HOPE YOUR GENITILLA GETS BURNT BY SCORCHING FLAMES!!!
DIE OF CHYLAMIDIA YOU SPOILING BAG OF SEAMEN!!!
EAT FESTERING POOLS OF SHIT FOR BREAKFAST LUNCH AND DINNER!!!
DIE!!!!

 

[AniHawk]

YOU DIRTY PIECE OF SHIT!!! I GOT THIS ONE ON BACKLOG!!!!
I HOPE YOUR GENITILLA GETS BURNT BY SCORCHING FLAMES!!!
DIE OF CHYLAMIDIA YOU SPOILING BAG OF SEAMEN!!!
EAT FESTERING POOLS OF SHIT FOR BREAKFAST LUNCH AND DINNER!!!
DIE!!!!

Knock over a magazine rack. You'll feel better.

 

[SantaC]

I have never really cared how the Zelda games are tied together. I just enjoy every game for what it is ^^

 

[BuddyC]

What? How (if it said)?

I dunno, I assume it has something to do with (Minish spoilers)

Spoiler

the formation of the Four Sword and Vaati's origins.

Direct quote from the Fact Sheet:
"This title takes players deep into Zelda history, tying the Four Swords titles into the Legend of Zelda mythology."

 

[AniHawk]

I dunno, I assume it has something to do with (Minish spoilers)

Spoiler

the formation of the Four Sword and Vaati's origins.

Direct quote from the Fact Sheet:
"This title takes players deep into Zelda history, tying the Four Swords titles into the Legend of Zelda mythology."

Oh, thanks. Fact sheet doesn't make too much sense though, unless they plan on tying Vaati into the main storyline.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

I always thought WW took place in the universe that was left over from OOT, the one Zelda sent Link back in time from. It fits in good with the whole "But the dude never came back" junk in WW.

 

[BuddyC]

Oh, thanks. Fact sheet doesn't make too much sense though, unless they plan on tying Vaati into the main storyline.

I just think they were trying to say "Look! This explains Four Swords! Now it all fits together."

 

[GaimeGuy]

I always thought it went:

OoT > MM > TWW > LttP > LA > LoZ > AoL

and

Spoiler

TMC

> FS > FSA

Oracles in there somewhere. Probably the first one.

Ani, your timeline is correct. That is the most commonly accepted, and pretty much the timeline that is believed to have happened.

And I can't remember if they come directly before or directly after, but the oracles are directly adjacent to LA in the timeline. I THINK they happen after LA, but I could be wrong. Not counting TMC, FS, and FSA, there are four known links (I still don't have TMC, and I never played FS, but I have FSA, so I can't comment on that arc):

The First Link appears in OoT and MM
The Second Link appears in TWW
The Third Link appears in LttP, LA, and the Oracles
The Fourth Link appears in LoZ and AoL.

The new zelda for the GameCube is rumored to take place from the perspective of either the first or the second link, but those are just assumptions people have made.

The best analysis of the zelda timeline I have ever found is the analysis of TSA. He used to have a pretty big timeline section, but he scrapped that and now has a new storyline section on his site, zelda headquarters. However, there's only one article about one theory up, at the moment; The multiple timeline argument. I suggest everyone read it.

Edit:

I always thought WW took place in the universe that was left over from OOT, the one Zelda sent Link back in time from. It fits in good with the whole "But the dude never came back" junk in WW.

Yeah, in the aonuma interview in the multiple timeline argument, Aonuma says that TWW takes place 100 years after the ending of OoT in Teen Link's time.

 

[Orin GA]

If WW was before LttP, then why did the king specifically say that the new land would not be hyrule ?

 

[JJConrad]

I hope they stay true to a traditional Zelda storyline, complete with saving the princess and fighting Ganon in the end. When they try that new stuff, it never really feels like a true Zelda game. Besides, there's isn't much they can do that hasn't already been done elsewhere; I rather they ripped themselves off than anybody else....

 

[GaimeGuy]

If WW was before LttP, then why did the king specifically say that the new land would not be hyrule ?

Duh, they ignored him and called it hyrule anyways.

 

[AniHawk]

If WW was before LttP, then why did the king specifically say that the new land would not be hyrule ?

Maybe there needs to be something to explain that, but I figure they did it to kinda honor Daphnes or something. Plus, Tetra is part of the Hyrule bloodline, so who's to say she didn't start a new kingdom and name it after herself?

 

[GaimeGuy]

I hope they stay true to a traditional Zelda storyline, complete with saving the princess and fighting Ganon in the end. When they try that new stuff, it never really feels like a true Zelda game. Besides, there's isn't much they can do that hasn't already been done elsewhere; I rather they ripped themselves off than anybody else....

Minish Cap, the Oracles, Links awakening, and Majoras Mask sure as hell felt like true zeldas. And that's half of the zelda lineup right there.

 

[AssMan]

I think the greatest danger the Zelda series faces is becoming too samey. Same gameplay mechanics; same items; same plot; samish. OOT--->MM--->WW were still okay and great fun but the next couple of Zeldas really needs some sort of upgrade; considering how much fun Minish Cap's Zelda formae is to play.

Call me crazy, but I'd like another cell shaded Zelda game, but using similiar artstyle used in Okami. A twisted, and dark world. Oh well. I think Gannon will be back in this one. Don't hold your breathe for a new and original storyline.

 

[belgurdo]

I hope they stay true to a traditional Zelda storyline, complete with saving the princess and fighting Ganon in the end. When they try that new stuff, it never really feels like a true Zelda game.

...what "new stuff?"

 

[FriScho]

don't you ever listen to the intro dialoges of games? Wind Waker was about a boy who plays and desses like the legendary link. He is NOT the REAL link!

 

[GaimeGuy]

don't you ever listen to the intro dialoges of games? Wind Waker was about a boy who plays and desses like the legendary link. He is NOT the REAL link!

Lol. have you played through WW?

Spoiler

Ganon himself says that the boy is the hero of time, reincarnated.