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[CrushDance]

What I mean is for example lets say Christians in the U.S. decide to live in their own areas away from "everyone else" and do so. There's no law against that I'm sure. What brought this up is the the Domino's pizza fonder; who bought a large area of land(I mean really big) and they are currently building a large area with houses, a giant church and everything for only Christians to come and live at if they so choose to.

They modeled it all around scripture and as such theres no things like night clubs or whatever. It's still under construction though but people have began moving in.
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Ave Maria, Florida is a planned community and college town currently under development in Collier County, near Immokalee and Naples. Local community and business leaders have partnered with the Ave Maria Foundation to create a new community that will have a new Catholic university, Ave Maria University, at its core. The town is planned to have a population of 11,000 permanent residents and 5,000 students. The town and university are planned to open in 2007.

Monaghan once stated that commercial leases in the town would enforce beliefs consistent with the Catholic faith, including prohibiting the sale of pornography or contraceptives and banning the performing of abortions. Consequently, the American Civil Liberties Union announced it would oppose these plans in court if they were carried out.[1] Monaghan later explained in a public statement, "I prefer not to have those things, but I am not going to break the law."[2]
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Anyway so it got me thinking that it seems it could easily happen. There are other groups who are already doing this.

So would it seem far fetched to think it could actually happen? What with people fighting over insignificant things and not really having much understanding for others these days even though were supposed to...I could definitely see it happening.

And it wouldn't really be a bad thing either. Those who "can't stand each other" can go and live in their own areas and everything will be okay...I'm not suggesting that countries will break up but rather lets say a large area of a state becomes mostly a specific group living there for example.

It's a scary thought but this is really the only way things can go.

Thoughts?

 

[BocoDragon]

I think humanity was split already in the first tribes, religions, institutions, nations....

Also, remember that America was settled by religious recluses.... This is not new whatsoever.

 

[Like the hat?]

heres what I predict happening there:

a bunch of hardcore christians move in, have children
those children become teenagers
those teenagers rebel against their parents
there is a TON of teenage ****-parties
there is a TON of teenage pregnancies
this whole thing falls apart

 

[Hitokage]

Mormons tried this a few times before moving where nobody else wanted to: Utah's deserts.

Also, remember that America was settled by religious recluses

Only some of them, and even the pilgrims saw money in the venture. Rhode Island, on the other hand, was founded to be a haven of religious freedom.

 

[CrushDance]

I think humanity was split already in the first tribes, religions, institutions, nations....

Also, remember that America was settled by religious recluses.... This is not new whatsoever.

Yeah that's what I'm saying. I really think it's cyclical and as such we'll be doing it again. Because people just can't get along:lol

I for one don't see it as being such a bad idea and would rather be a pretty good move. But that's just my view. Theres tons of towns and cities in the U.S. that are like Ave Maria where it's mostly "white people", "black people", "asian people", plus all the other denominations of various groups. Would be a nice social experience.

heres what I predict happening there:

a bunch of hardcore christians move in, have children
those children become teenagers
those teenagers rebel against their parents
there is a TON of teenage ****-parties
there is a TON of teenage pregnancies
this whole thing falls apart

Good for you. I guess all teenagers party, sleep around and what not. Right? Don't generalize. This isn't even a "omg radicla christianz!" thread so please don't bring that into here. I'm talking about people splitting up based on their beliefs, races, etc.

It sounds kind of scary though because people will actually split up based on such trivial things. But if people won't accept each other for what they are "meh".

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Yea, good luck with that whole "being closed off from society" deal. See how far you advance with just about any sort of technology with that idea. Sure, it's convenient, but not beneficial in the long run.

 

[BocoDragon]

Yeah that's what I'm saying. I really think it's cyclical and as such we'll be doing it again. Because people just can't get along:lol

Well if it's a cyclical thing... hey, you might have a point.

Yea, good luck with that whole "being closed off from society" deal. See how far you advance with just about any sort of technology with that idea. Sure, it's convenient, but not beneficial in the long run.

I dunno... I'm pretty sure you could just soak in the modern world at your leisure, without putting any effort into it yourself.....

 

[DarknessTear]

Sorry CrushDance, you're a cool guy and all but the idea is just bad.

 

[CrushDance]

Yea, good luck with that whole "being closed off from society" deal. See how far you advance with just about any sort of technology with that idea. Sure, it's convenient, but not beneficial in the long run.

What are you talking about? I don't understand what your saying. You don't need everyone to make technological breakthroughs or have a modern society at all. There's a University there already that excels in many areas. Are you saying it'll work but that in the future people will not advance as quick?

I think even the most racist, bigotist etc can go to school and learn something. Besides I'm not saying that everyone will be cut off form each other. I should have clarified.

You can really be apart right? S lets say 5 miles down the road is a place with mostly "black" people. You still communicate, trucks still go through towns with deliveries etc. Everything can still be the "same" and yet people can live in there own areas.

There's many areas in the states where only the upper class of certain groups or whatever live.

 

[BocoDragon]

Only some of them, and even the pilgrims saw money in the venture. Rhode Island, on the other hand, was founded to be a haven of religious freedom.

Sure.. but I'm sure a lot of it was... "let's get the hell away from this protestant-catholic-political cluster****" (not talking about the religion itself... just the political and institutional struggles that were pretty hot in Europe after the reformation)

 

[Like the hat?]

Good for you. I guess all teenagers party, sleep around and what not. Right? Don't generalize. This isn't even a "omg radicla christianz!" thread so please don't bring that into here. I'm talking about people splitting up based on their beliefs, races, etc.

It sounds kind of scary though because people will actually split up based on such trivial things. But if people won't accept each other for what they are "meh".

i didnt mean that as an attack on christians. I was merely stating that any type of area founded solely on strong morals will not work. seeing as im a christian myself why would i attack them? whatever, cant say anything on this site without people getting all pissy.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

What are you talking about? I don't understand what your saying. You don't need everyone to make technological breakthroughs or have a modern society at all.

It just seems to me like having a couple thousand people segregrated, things wouldn't advanced as far. If you're talking about having entire countries of people who are like this town, then yea, it could work then. If these towns aren't completely cut off (although I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually were), then the idea could work for quite some time.

 

[CrushDance]

i didnt mean that as an attack on christians. I was merely stating that any type of area founded solely on strong morals will not work. seeing as im a christian myself why would i attack them?

I don't think you read the first post fully then and go to the website the founder explains what it's all about. It's not all about religion there. They are planing on opening many commercial areas and all. Just there won't be for example adult content on the local tv provider or whatnot. There'll still be computers, video games etc and everything. I agree with you that it will not work but after a while people would become more serious about it. The same thing could be said for those who would split off racially.

It just seems to me like having a couple thousand people segregrated, things wouldn't advanced as far. If you're talking about having entire countries of people who are like this town, then yea, it could work then. If these towns aren't completely cut off (although I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually were), then the idea could work for quite some time.

I see what you mean now. Yeah I agree. There is a possibility for the areas to cut themselves off entirely after a while but I think that's after they've probably grown more and actually have a lot more resources.

 

[Like the hat?]

I don't think you read the first post fully then and go to the website the founder explains what it's all about. It's not all about religion there. They are planing on opening many commercial areas and all. Just there won't be for example adult content on the local tv provider or whatnot. There'll still be computers, video games etc and everything.

nope!

 

[Ghost]

As someone who lives in a country where something like 90% of the habitable land is already developed, I find it facinating that people can still find the space to just start a whole town/city from scratch...how much does a development like this cost?

 

[CrushDance]

nope!

Well yeah I explained it to you then lol. Hopefully you understood me.

As someone who lives in a country where something like 90% of the habitable land is already developed, I find it facinating that people can still find the space to just start a whole town/city from scratch...how much does a development like this cost?

Founder of Domino's pizza.

And you don't need to develop new land. You can just modify existing ones. Theres this are I can't remember where(Saw it on discovery) where it was basically all these upper class "black" people and the are was very large with all these massive houses etc with mostly "black" people.

So it could work. You don't need to start from scratch if you already have a large majority.

 

[borghe]

this is really where things are headed, yes. I don't foresee the United States staying intact as is for another 100 years. I only hope that the eventual secessions are peaceful and without incident. Otherwise civil war.

humans cannot comprehend the thought of polar opposite beliefs living side by side with one another. Intolerance has always run amok. And frankly the liberals are just as guilty in this as the conservatives.

 

[madara]

Reminds of last week when I was hiking in Lake Geneva for PT. I stopped to adjust my speedos under my shorts for second, quite tastefully I might add. Apparently I stopped in front of private Christian camp. While one counselor was talking about how god is coming to drain away the Lake of Geneva, something about a Tribulation I was getting dirty looks from the other girl teacher. I think that was only time hiking I ever got such a look, including the old rich guy next to stone manor that comes out in robe and places a brand new shoe on statue's head each morning.

 

[Kevtones]

GAF would make for an interesting town

 

[CrushDance]

Reminds of last week when I was hiking in Lake Geneva for PT. I stopped to adjust my speedos under my shorts for second, quite tastefully I might add. Apparently I stopped in front of private Christian camp. While one counselor was talking about how god is coming to drain away the Lake of Geneva, something about a Tribulation I was getting dirty looks from the other girl teacher. I think that was only time hiking I ever got such a look, including the old rich guy next to stone manor that comes out in robe and places a brand new shoe on statue's head each morning.

:lol :lol :lol

GAF would make for an interesting town

I wouldn't come if sp0rsk were there

 

[Scrow]

good luck to them

 

[JDSN]

So what if I am a Christian but I get bored and switch to something else like Satanism?

Do I get kicked out?

 

[Bebpo]

As someone who lives in a country where something like 90% of the habitable land is already developed, I find it facinating that people can still find the space to just start a whole town/city from scratch...how much does a development like this cost?

I think Something Awful could do it if they tried. Maybe even GAF depending on the funds.

 

[alr1ght]

already done. you know how that turned out.

 

[CrushDance]

already done. you know how that turned out.

This is different. Not only religious groups. Besides those people completely isolated themselves. There is a difference.

 

[Barbacoatl]

So what if I am a Christian but I get bored ans switch to something else like Satanism?

Do I get kicked out?

not if you kick them in the celestial crotch first.

 

[Jasoco]

It's Amish Country but with Christians.

No big deal. I'll just live in the fun part of the world.

 

[chaostrophy]

Not sure how some of those restrictions are going to work. People can get porn by mail or by Internet. Contraceptives can be delivered- a lot of insurance plans use mail-delivery pharmacies for regularly taken meds like birth control. Citizens of the town can just drive somewhere else if they want an abortion.

Religious people have a history of decrying various sins in public but engaging in them privately. The citizens of this town will be no different.

 

[chibcicylist]

It's been happening in the last 2 million years.

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

heres what I predict happening there:

a bunch of hardcore christians move in, have children
those children become teenagers
those teenagers rebel against their parents
there is a TON of teenage ****-parties
there is a TON of teenage pregnancies
this whole thing falls apart

You forgot the whole "****-party sex tapes are leaked" part - and that's the only shit anyone cares about.

 

[big_z]

worlds biggest cult, only in america.

 

[xabre]

So because some minor incident happens in America the entirety of humanity is going to 'split' socially?

Unbelievable. Here's a newsflash genius, humanity has been splitting for thousands of years...they even have a special name for these things - they're called countries.

 

[KidGalactus]

humans cannot comprehend the thought of polar opposite beliefs living side by side with one another. Intolerance has always run amok. And frankly the liberals are just as guilty in this as the conservatives.

I really wish you weren't right about that :/

 

[Triumph]

Wasn't there some sort of wacky Evangelical movement to settle as many nutjobs as possible in South Carolina and then make it a theocracy?

Ah, found it. http://christianexodus.org/ Here's an article about it, too: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38571

 

[AlanHemberger]

heres what I predict happening there:

a bunch of hardcore christians move in, have children
those children become teenagers
those teenagers rebel against their parents
there is a TON of teenage ****-parties
there is a TON of teenage pregnancies
this whole thing falls apart

actually, a lot of hardcore religious teens grow up not believing in that kind of thing and look down upon it. generalizing rocks, i guess?