NeoIkaruGAF
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Are you in Spain, OP? That might be telling.
Hey, they said 25 million consoles by March. You gotta give them more time!Once the Magic Pussy series hits, this thing will fly off the shelves.
Currently Japan accounts for 24.51% of Switch shipments and 21.82% of Switch 2 shipments. So it's actually lower for Switch 2.I agree but we are still in that period where people will still point to launch sales.
Also interesting is that 1/3 of Switch 2 sales I believe are in Japan. That's a lot relatively speaking. I have no doubt this console will do well there but Japan itself isn't going to carry this imo.
It's a standard generational jump, like from PS3 to PS4.There are several things holding it back:
2. The graphical leap between the Wii u, switch, and the switch 2 is simply not that impressive.
Their official target is still 15 million. Nothing has changed.The excitement has died down but I think sales are fairly good. Hitting 25M by March might be tough though. They might have overestimated short-term demand.
Its two different options. You can buy the tracks as DLC, or you can get the higher tier NSO subscription and all 48 track included.I was interested in one, then I noticed that you basically need to subscribe to Nintendo Online to enjoy it. Nintendo is really predatory with that shit. For Mario Kart 8 on Switch, they show you tracks and characters that you cannot use, because you are not a subscriber. They rub it in your face. And since it is mostly a console for my kids, I get to hear it nonstop. "Dad, why don't we have these tracks?" "Well I guess we can't play those because we do not have Nintendo Online" Seriously, fuck Nintendo. You can't even buy it as DLC. You NEED to subscribe.
Also, my kids are still plenty entertained by the Switch. No need to upgrade. And since Nintendo stopped catering to me and the games I enjoy, also another reason to not pick it up. They have really become a kiddy and nostalgia console. Well I do not have enough nostalgia to spend that kind of money on it.
I remember when the Nintendo DS originally launched, we had a hard time selling them at the EB Games I worked at. Nintendo even said it wouldn't replace their GBA product lineup.Back in my day it wasnt unheard of for new consoles to have lackluster first years.
I've been watching this video for 3 hours and the bucket never gets full.
Yet another thread to bookmark on here..
Oh, good catch that 20M was an analysts forecastTheir official target is still 15 million. Nothing has changed.
I can see Nintendo raising their target after the holiday numbers come in, but not so high as 20 millionOh, good catch that was an analysts forecast
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Nintendo reportedly ramps up Switch 2 production to meet new target of 25 million consoles made by March 2026, with analysts forecasting they'll sell 20 million by then
Pokemon is sure to help that number along significantlywww.gamesradar.com
Switch had terrible third party suppoty at launch. Switch's 2 launch support is way way better.It really needs an epic 3d Zelda game. I wanted a Switch 1 for years because of that, after reading all the positive things about it. There's really nothing pulling me toward the Switch 2 right now.
Also, when the first Switch came out, it launched with an amazing gimmick that everyone wanted to experience. It even seemed to have a lot of third-party support from the get go. Things are moving slowly for the Switch 2, but it'll probably regain attention at some point — especially when the oled version arrives and the first models get discounted(hopefully).
So people expected the Switch 2 to keep selling 3 million every 15 days or so...It is
Isn't that true for pretty much all products ?
You understand it's not like the supply constraint issue the Wii had, and then compare the two regardless ?
We have direct info from Nintendo and NPD and it is selling faster than previous console, I don't know if this kind of data help
Didn't really start to gain momentum until they redesigned and launched the DS Lite.I remember when the Nintendo DS originally launched, we had a hard time selling them at the EB Games I worked at. Nintendo even said it wouldn't replace their GBA product lineup.
I wasn't a huge fan of it myself, at first.
Ended up selling 154 million units lol
Oh yeah, for sure! The original model was…roughDidn't really start to gain momentum until they redesigned and launched the DS Lite.
No you don't understand. The fact that couldn't see a single Switch 2 show that demand is very strong. Whereas the fact you were able to buy Cheetos shows that the frenzy has died a death.My car was low on gas the other day, so I pulled into a gas station to fill up the tank. While I was there, I went inside to grab some Cheetos.
I didn't see A SINGLE SWITCH 2 on the gas station shelves. Nintendo is dying.
just you wait till Holidays. Having stock isn't a bad thing either. You don't know if they ar removing or not and sales numbers are exceeding switch last I heard. I think the price is a little high, but with XBOX and SONY upping their prices Nintendo is gunna Nintendo.. Maybe they have a few bundles for the holiday. Mario Kart, a Zelda,Pokemon, and a Metroid bundle would sell pretty good.
Might just be my feeling,
Anecdotal evidence is fine when you don't have other sources of data, but in this case we have a ton of data, and that data pretty much unanimously shows that the Switch 2 is selling at an unprecedented rate.
You can believe that it will slow down in the future, but there's zero evidence that the scenario you describe in the OP is happening, and quite a bit of evidence that it's not.
This. We literally have sales data indicating it's had one of, if not the most successful launches a console has ever seen, and GAF is still like "this thing is struggling to sell!"The conversation surrounding Nintendo and the Switch 2 has been nothing short of fascinating these past few months. We have actual data showing the system is a huge hit and yet you still have people going "my aching bones tell me this is akshually a bomb". How peculiar.
Please explain how you came to this conclusion when we just had sales data that showed this last month:I had that exact feeling and prediction on the day the Switch 2 was revealed. I've never seen a new console announcement feel so cold. Right now, I feel like the honeymoon phase is over and all these negative signs are starting to take shape.
What negative signs?I had that exact feeling and prediction on the day the Switch 2 was revealed. I've never seen a new console announcement feel so cold. Right now, I feel like the honeymoon phase is over and all these negative signs are starting to take shape.
We have data that it sold well initially and that it's selling out in Japan but I am much more skeptical about what the sustained demand is like.
I had that exact feeling and prediction on the day the Switch 2 was revealed. I've never seen a new console announcement feel so cold. Right now, I feel like the honeymoon phase is over and all these negative signs are starting to take shape.
switch 2 has no future, we are facing a new Wii U. The reason? The games aren't as good as they were on the Switch 1.
Double digit declines for Xbox playstation and Switch. Switch being the biggest decline.What negative signs?
The Switch 2 lead to console growth in the US offsetting double digit declines for Xbox and PlayStation.
Xbox and PlayStation dropped by double digit percentages, each.Double digit declines for Xbox playstation and Switch. Switch being the biggest decline.
Ofcourse a new expensive console launch offsets declines but it isn't a sign of anything positive either in terms of ability to maintain sales. Not that it's not going to.
Nobody said it didn't. Read the Circana report again and you'll see so did Switch 1 which was my point. Dropped double digits replaced by a new expensive console which ofcourse boosts hardware spending. But once again those August results don't tell you anything about "the frenzy" cooling off recently or not.Xbox and PlayStation dropped by double digit percentages, each.
Switch 2 carrying hardware in the US is very much a positive no matter how you try to spin it.
The world can't produce enough copium for you. I hope you survive the holidays.Double digit declines for Xbox playstation and Switch. Switch being the biggest decline.
Ofcourse a new expensive console launch offsets declines but it isn't a sign of anything positive either in terms of ability to maintain sales. Not that it's not going to.
Coping with what exactly? I'm just telling the guy to read the actual sentence of what he's regurgitating:The world can't produce enough copium for you. I hope you survive the holidays.
Yes, the Switch dropped double digits. Not sure what your expectations are for a 9 year old console that was already in decline?Nobody said it didn't. Read the Circana report again and you'll see so did Switch 1 which was my point. Dropped double digits replaced by a new expensive console which ofcourse boosts hardware spending. But once again those August results don't tell you anything about "the frenzy" cooling off recently or not.