I have a feeling that the Switch 2 frenzy has died a quick death

Nintendo gets a lot of hate (quite understandable in most cases, sure), but there's no question they did this launch right by having plenty of units in stock.

Seems like that'll be the case going into the holiday season…
 
These threads are getting tiring. Go look at the sales data for Switch 2 if you don't want to base it off of
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"Not seeing anybody looking at Switch 2 in stores I shop at"
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This is HILARIOUS, can we bump it after Christmas?

I mean why even post this. You just know that there is a 99% chance of eating crow or having it rubbed in your face later, why risk it? Do you want sales to be low that much?

Christmas is coming bois. Choose your wish! You can't wish this console away baby, it's here to stay!

Hades 2 is awesome btw! It got a 95 on metacritic and an easy goty nominee. The only console it is on is Switch 1/2. This is a game industry forum that is supposed to be knowledgeable but when I mention this I get a bunch of comments like "tried it, didn't understand" or "I hate roguelites"....you are knowledgeable like Pachter, lol, or being intentionally obtuse because you are pissed Switch 2 got such a gigantic goty indie as a console exclusive right after it came out...like I see you my guys. You fool no one.

Sales facts will send this little uprising into obscurity right after this holiday, mark it.
 
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I agree but we are still in that period where people will still point to launch sales.

Also interesting is that 1/3 of Switch 2 sales I believe are in Japan. That's a lot relatively speaking. I have no doubt this console will do well there but Japan itself isn't going to carry this imo.
Currently Japan accounts for 24.51% of Switch shipments and 21.82% of Switch 2 shipments. So it's actually lower for Switch 2.
There are several things holding it back:


2. The graphical leap between the Wii u, switch, and the switch 2 is simply not that impressive.
It's a standard generational jump, like from PS3 to PS4.
The excitement has died down but I think sales are fairly good. Hitting 25M by March might be tough though. They might have overestimated short-term demand.
Their official target is still 15 million. Nothing has changed.
I was interested in one, then I noticed that you basically need to subscribe to Nintendo Online to enjoy it. Nintendo is really predatory with that shit. For Mario Kart 8 on Switch, they show you tracks and characters that you cannot use, because you are not a subscriber. They rub it in your face. And since it is mostly a console for my kids, I get to hear it nonstop. "Dad, why don't we have these tracks?" "Well I guess we can't play those because we do not have Nintendo Online :( " Seriously, fuck Nintendo. You can't even buy it as DLC. You NEED to subscribe.

Also, my kids are still plenty entertained by the Switch. No need to upgrade. And since Nintendo stopped catering to me and the games I enjoy, also another reason to not pick it up. They have really become a kiddy and nostalgia console. Well I do not have enough nostalgia to spend that kind of money on it.
Its two different options. You can buy the tracks as DLC, or you can get the higher tier NSO subscription and all 48 track included.
 
Back in my day it wasnt unheard of for new consoles to have lackluster first years.
I remember when the Nintendo DS originally launched, we had a hard time selling them at the EB Games I worked at. Nintendo even said it wouldn't replace their GBA product lineup.

I wasn't a huge fan of it myself, at first.

Ended up selling 154 million units lol
 
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I've been watching this video for 3 hours and the bucket never gets full.
 
It really needs an epic 3d Zelda game. I wanted a Switch 1 for years because of that, after reading all the positive things about it. There's really nothing pulling me toward the Switch 2 right now.

Also, when the first Switch came out, it launched with an amazing gimmick that everyone wanted to experience. It even seemed to have a lot of third-party support from the get go. Things are moving slowly for the Switch 2, but it'll probably regain attention at some point — especially when the oled version arrives and the first models get discounted(hopefully).
 
just you wait till Holidays. Having stock isn't a bad thing either. You don't know if they ar removing or not and sales numbers are exceeding switch last I heard. I think the price is a little high, but with XBOX and SONY upping their prices Nintendo is gunna Nintendo.. Maybe they have a few bundles for the holiday. Mario Kart, a Zelda,Pokemon, and a Metroid bundle would sell pretty good.
 
I can see Nintendo raising their target after the holiday numbers come in, but not so high as 20 million
It really needs an epic 3d Zelda game. I wanted a Switch 1 for years because of that, after reading all the positive things about it. There's really nothing pulling me toward the Switch 2 right now.

Also, when the first Switch came out, it launched with an amazing gimmick that everyone wanted to experience. It even seemed to have a lot of third-party support from the get go. Things are moving slowly for the Switch 2, but it'll probably regain attention at some point — especially when the oled version arrives and the first models get discounted(hopefully).
Switch had terrible third party suppoty at launch. Switch's 2 launch support is way way better.
 
It is


Isn't that true for pretty much all products ?

You understand it's not like the supply constraint issue the Wii had, and then compare the two regardless ?



We have direct info from Nintendo and NPD and it is selling faster than previous console, I don't know if this kind of data help
So people expected the Switch 2 to keep selling 3 million every 15 days or so...
 
I remember when the Nintendo DS originally launched, we had a hard time selling them at the EB Games I worked at. Nintendo even said it wouldn't replace their GBA product lineup.

I wasn't a huge fan of it myself, at first.

Ended up selling 154 million units lol
Didn't really start to gain momentum until they redesigned and launched the DS Lite.
 
My car was low on gas the other day, so I pulled into a gas station to fill up the tank. While I was there, I went inside to grab some Cheetos.

I didn't see A SINGLE SWITCH 2 on the gas station shelves. Nintendo is dying.
 
My car was low on gas the other day, so I pulled into a gas station to fill up the tank. While I was there, I went inside to grab some Cheetos.

I didn't see A SINGLE SWITCH 2 on the gas station shelves. Nintendo is dying.
No you don't understand. The fact that couldn't see a single Switch 2 show that demand is very strong. Whereas the fact you were able to buy Cheetos shows that the frenzy has died a death.
 
Nintendo's big gun was MKW, and that game needs a DLC, hopfully free.

We have yet to see games developed from the ground up for Switch 2, so I think they can only go up.
 
just you wait till Holidays. Having stock isn't a bad thing either. You don't know if they ar removing or not and sales numbers are exceeding switch last I heard. I think the price is a little high, but with XBOX and SONY upping their prices Nintendo is gunna Nintendo.. Maybe they have a few bundles for the holiday. Mario Kart, a Zelda,Pokemon, and a Metroid bundle would sell pretty good.

Wait for what? I don't see Nintendo offering discounts on Switch 2 hardware and I don't see loads of parents paying $500 just to play MKW when MK8 is probably already at home.
 
Anecdotal evidence is fine when you don't have other sources of data, but in this case we have a ton of data, and that data pretty much unanimously shows that the Switch 2 is selling at an unprecedented rate.

You can believe that it will slow down in the future, but there's zero evidence that the scenario you describe in the OP is happening, and quite a bit of evidence that it's not.
 
Anecdotal evidence is fine when you don't have other sources of data, but in this case we have a ton of data, and that data pretty much unanimously shows that the Switch 2 is selling at an unprecedented rate.

You can believe that it will slow down in the future, but there's zero evidence that the scenario you describe in the OP is happening, and quite a bit of evidence that it's not.

We have data that it sold well initially and that it's selling out in Japan but I am much more skeptical about what the sustained demand is like.
 
I don't like Nintendo because I think they're an extremely greedy company with overhyped and over-used IPs (although, at least they are using their IPs unlike their competitors), and because they somehow have the worst fanboys even though SenjutsuSage SenjutsuSage and SoloKingRobert SoloKingRobert (aka, Florian Mueller) are people who exist.

Having said that, it's borderline insanity to bet against the Nintendo Switch 2 when the Nintendo Switch was one of the best selling consoles of all time, and the Nintendo Switch 2 just stuck with the working formula but made the device more powerful. I'm not saying the Nintendo Switch 2 will do better than the Nintendo Switch in terms of total consoles sold (I doubt it will because the pandemic really pushed sales when people were locked up, but anything can happen), but I will be absolutely shocked if it doesn't end up being an extremely successfully console.
 
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Nintendo consoles sell like hot cakes during the holidays, and they do have some high profile first party games coming out.
 
I had that exact feeling and prediction on the day the Switch 2 was revealed. I've never seen a new console announcement feel so cold. Right now, I feel like the honeymoon phase is over and all these negative signs are starting to take shape.
 
The conversation surrounding Nintendo and the Switch 2 has been nothing short of fascinating these past few months. We have actual data showing the system is a huge hit and yet you still have people going "my aching bones tell me this is akshually a bomb". How peculiar.
This. We literally have sales data indicating it's had one of, if not the most successful launches a console has ever seen, and GAF is still like "this thing is struggling to sell!"
 
I had that exact feeling and prediction on the day the Switch 2 was revealed. I've never seen a new console announcement feel so cold. Right now, I feel like the honeymoon phase is over and all these negative signs are starting to take shape.
Please explain how you came to this conclusion when we just had sales data that showed this last month:

With 2.4M units sold LTD over its first 3 months market, Nintendo Switch 2 is now 5% ahead of the previous record setting pace of PlayStation 4, which sold 2.2M units during the 3 months ending January 2014. Nintendo Switch 2 unit sales are trending 77% ahead the time-aligned
 
I had that exact feeling and prediction on the day the Switch 2 was revealed. I've never seen a new console announcement feel so cold. Right now, I feel like the honeymoon phase is over and all these negative signs are starting to take shape.
What negative signs?

The Switch 2 lead to console growth in the US offsetting double digit declines for Xbox and PlayStation.
 
We have data that it sold well initially and that it's selling out in Japan but I am much more skeptical about what the sustained demand is like.

We also have Circana sales data through the end of August that shows it still selling well. Sure, when the September data drops it could show a slump, but August is outside of the initial launch rush and well after the release of Donkey Kong in mid-July.

So right now we have data from two of the largest markets for video games (North American and Japan) that show healthy to exceptional sustained sales and the only contradictory evidence is incomplete data from a couple of European regions that show it doing only OK (but still not badly) and anecdotes based on stock availability at random Walmarts.
 
I had that exact feeling and prediction on the day the Switch 2 was revealed. I've never seen a new console announcement feel so cold. Right now, I feel like the honeymoon phase is over and all these negative signs are starting to take shape.

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What negative signs?

The Switch 2 lead to console growth in the US offsetting double digit declines for Xbox and PlayStation.
Double digit declines for Xbox playstation and Switch. Switch being the biggest decline.

Ofcourse a new expensive console launch offsets declines but it isn't a sign of anything positive either in terms of ability to maintain sales. Not that it's not going to.
 
Double digit declines for Xbox playstation and Switch. Switch being the biggest decline.

Ofcourse a new expensive console launch offsets declines but it isn't a sign of anything positive either in terms of ability to maintain sales. Not that it's not going to.
Xbox and PlayStation dropped by double digit percentages, each.

Switch 2 carrying hardware in the US is very much a positive no matter how you try to spin it.
 
Xbox and PlayStation dropped by double digit percentages, each.

Switch 2 carrying hardware in the US is very much a positive no matter how you try to spin it.
Nobody said it didn't. Read the Circana report again and you'll see so did Switch 1 which was my point. Dropped double digits replaced by a new expensive console which ofcourse boosts hardware spending. But once again those August results don't tell you anything about "the frenzy" cooling off recently or not.
 
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Double digit declines for Xbox playstation and Switch. Switch being the biggest decline.

Ofcourse a new expensive console launch offsets declines but it isn't a sign of anything positive either in terms of ability to maintain sales. Not that it's not going to.
The world can't produce enough copium for you. I hope you survive the holidays.
 
The world can't produce enough copium for you. I hope you survive the holidays.
Coping with what exactly? I'm just telling the guy to read the actual sentence of what he's regurgitating:

"offset double-digit percentage declines across each of PlayStation 5, Xbox Series and Switch."
 
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Nobody said it didn't. Read the Circana report again and you'll see so did Switch 1 which was my point. Dropped double digits replaced by a new expensive console which ofcourse boosts hardware spending. But once again those August results don't tell you anything about "the frenzy" cooling off recently or not.
Yes, the Switch dropped double digits. Not sure what your expectations are for a 9 year old console that was already in decline?

I specifically mentioned the Xbox and PlayStation because they are the current generation consoles on the market, both of which declined double digits. Meanwhile, the Switch 2 (Nintendo's current generation console) is carrying the hardware market. Just as it did in June and July.

The "negative signs" I questioned isn't supported by data. It's the opposite.
 
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