"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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Flying_Phoenix said:
Did it, restarted my computer, same thing it isn't there.


It isn't.


I have two, I just put them in raid on the BIOS first.
So, you only 2 total HDD? If yes, Raid through the Bios will combine the 2 HDD and you must reinstall Windows. All data will be lost. Also, size and speed will be limited to the smallest and slowest drive. That's the reason why it's best you want to use the same exact drive. For example if you have different drives, 1TB 100MB write / read and 1.5TB 75MB write/read, raid 0 you get 2TB with 150MB write / read. 500GB will be unused. On the other hand, if you run 2X 1TB, it's 2TB and 200MB write / read.

If you don't want to loose data and add HDD to raid, let Windows handle it through Disk Management. Performance will be slower than above.

Personally, I think you need to do more research before trying Raid.
 
What do you guys think about using a 23.6" LED monitor as your main entertainment TV also. I have a 55" Plasma TV that I LOVE but I really dont want to move with it. When breaking into the job market I just want to be able to up and leave wherever I'm living if an opportunity arises, so I'm thinking of just taking my computer, monitor, and xbox 360 with me when I leave. Reason I ask is I can still return this monitor and get something larger.
 
integrated graphics sure have come a long way. Playing stalker on my i5 2500k's integrated graphics on a z68 mobo. Wish my 6950 would arrive already, hate neweggs super slow shipping.
 
Coldsnap said:
What do you guys think about using a 23.6" LED monitor as your main entertainment TV also. I have a 55" Plasma TV that I LOVE but I really dont want to move with it. When breaking into the job market I just want to be able to up and leave wherever I'm living if an opportunity arises, so I'm thinking of just taking my computer, monitor, and xbox 360 with me when I leave. Reason I ask is I can still return this monitor and get something larger.

I would go for maybe a 32" 1080p TV. At least you'll be able to sit sort of far away from it to watch TV. At 23.6", you kind of have to be on top of the thing to see.
 
LordCanti said:
I would go for maybe a 32" 1080p TV. At least you'll be able to sit sort of far away from it to watch TV. At 23.6", you kind of have to be on top of the thing to see.

Yea I was thinking something like this too. Anything though approaching TV size would just make me miss my plasma so much though ;;
 
For fucks sake.

After getting everything in order I started Steam and starting downloading Left 4 Dead 2.

After a bit my computer froze (this has never happened before).

So I restarted it. This time Steam doesn't open and gives this message.

fd6Jg.jpg


I deleted clientregistry.blob...same thing.

And the freezing occurs as a regularity now.

I assume its the new Raid setup?
 
Guys help. I was chatting w/ my gf and my computer blue screened. Unfortunantely I didn't write it down thinking I just had a webcam driver crash.

My computer turns on. However, I am not getting any video (no posting)

I have a p55a-ud3. Phase LED's are green-green-orange-red.

Where do I start? I know I could clear the jumper, but I have always seen that as a near placebo.
 
gibon3z said:
integrated graphics sure have come a long way. Playing stalker on my i5 2500k's integrated graphics on a z68 mobo. Wish my 6950 would arrive already, hate neweggs super slow shipping.

? Where do you live? They get stuff to me no later than the next they after shipping it. I know they have a warehouse in Jersey and one in Cali. So being close to either areas would help.
 
Been a fucking horrible day. I have went back and forth between driver sets trying to solve my issue and I can't. I am getting horrible performance in games. I decided to try GTA IV today on PC for the first time and my GPU usage goes all over the place. Hell it even hit 0%. Then it will jump to another random percentage, and then another basically making the game unplayable. This with settings all on Medium just to see what was up.

I then went to NFS Hot Pursuit and GPU usage is at 48%. So of course the damn game is stuttering as the usage fluctuates. These are at stock settings. MSI or EVGA precision will not work in some games either anymore. If either one of those programs are running when I try and launch a game it will be a black screen. When I get out and exit MSI/EVGA the game then works as normal.

I don't know what the fuck is going on here. I have been messing with my machine all day. I've went down to different drivers trying to fix it. Can somebody tell me wtf is going on? Do I have a bad card or something? Should I do a format on my C and just wipe everything out?

Very frustrated right now.
 
I went away for an hour to watch a couple DVR'd episodes of Louie, and I come back to find that three or four peoples computers have gone to shit.

What the hell happened?

@Flying_Phoenix - Yes, I'm pretty sure the RAID array is probably the issue. When you change something major like that, things can go south.

@Smokey - Try the change, like he said below

@The_Inquisitor - What does your manual say those LED's mean? It's absolutely possible that any component could die at pretty much any time. Do you have another card that you can put in there to test? Do the onboard graphics of the 2500k work in your mobo? If so, use those to test.
 
Smokey said:
Been a fucking horrible day. I have went back and forth between driver sets trying to solve my issue and I can't. I am getting horrible performance in games. I decided to try GTA IV today on PC for the first time and my GPU usage goes all over the place. Hell it even hit 0%. Then it will jump to another random percentage, and then another basically making the game unplayable. This with settings all on Medium just to see what was up.

I then went to NFS Hot Pursuit and GPU usage is at 48%. So of course the damn game is stuttering as the usage fluctuates. These are at stock settings. MSI or EVGA precision will not work in some games either anymore. If either one of those programs are running when I try and launch a game it will be a black screen. When I get out and exit MSI/EVGA the game then works as normal.

I don't know what the fuck is going on here. I have been messing with my machine all day. I've went down to different drivers trying to fix it. Can somebody tell me wtf is going on? Do I have a bad card or something? Should I do a format on my C and just wipe everything out?

Very frustrated right now.
Try changing Power Management mode (Nvidia Control Panel > Manage 3D Settings) from Adaptive to Prefer Maximum.
 
LordCanti said:
I went away for an hour to watch a couple DVR'd episodes of Louie, and I come back to find that three or four peoples computers have gone to shit.

What the hell happened?

@Flying_Phoenix - Yes, I'm pretty sure the RAID array is probably the issue. When you change something major like that, things can go south.

@Smokey - Try the change, like he said below

@The_Inquisitor - What does your manual say those LED's mean? It's absolutely possible that any component could die at pretty much any time. Do you have another card that you can put in there to test? Do the onboard graphics of the 2500k work in your mobo? If so, use those to test.

SON OF A BITCH! Just plugged in my older GTX460. Motherfucking booted. My new fucking GPU appears to be dead.
 
The_Inquisitor said:
SON OF A BITCH! Just plugged in my older GTX460. Motherfucking booted. My new fucking GPU appears to be dead.

Does the fan spin? Maybe the drivers screwed up or something, and it just won't output video anymore. When it was in, did you try both outputs?

If you put it back in, and the problem persists, I'd probably just RMA it. Something weird is going on there.

If you have another computer to try it in, I would do that. You could try another PCI-E slot on the mobo as well.
 
LordCanti said:
Does the fan spin? Maybe the drivers screwed up or something, and it just won't output video anymore. When it was in, did you try both outputs?

If you put it back in, and the problem persists, I'd probably just RMA it. Something weird is going on there.

Did try second output and no go. You may be onto something though. It did blue screen when I was on skype. How the fuck would I get the drivers fixed.

I am currently booted w/ my back-up gtx460.
 
The_Inquisitor said:
Did try second output and no go. You may be onto something though. It did blue screen when I was on skype. How the fuck would I get the drivers fixed.

I am currently booted w/ my back-up gtx460.

Try uninstalling the drivers, installing the drivers, and then popping the card back in.

(Don't do the last bit while the computer is on, obviously)
 
LordCanti said:
Try uninstalling the drivers, installing the drivers, and then popping the card back in.

I thought you meant the firmware on the card. I was like, how the fuck would I JTAG anything on the card, lol. That's a good point. Let me try that.
 
Velion said:
Try changing Power Management mode (Nvidia Control Panel > Manage 3D Settings) from Adaptive to Prefer Maximum.

LordCanti said:
@Smokey - Try the change, like he said below

Ok I will try this. Anything on Steam not launching games with Afterburner/EVGA Precision? BC2 wouldn't launch in steam with Precision enabled so I went to the D2D Drive and launched the game through there and it worked as it should. But since I have 95% of my games from Steam, this is sort of a problem...
 
Smokey said:
Ok I will try this. Anything on Steam not launching games with Afterburner/EVGA Precision? BC2 wouldn't launch in steam with Precision enabled so I went to the D2D Drive and launched the game through there and it worked as it should. But since I have 95% of my games from Steam, this is sort of a problem...

I have no idea. Sometimes Windows is just a bitch. I once had to re-install Windows, because installing Itunes had rendered all of my other programs inoperable. They wouldn't even open. It was the damnedest thing I had ever seen.
 
Kadey said:
? Where do you live? They get stuff to me no later than the next they after shipping it. I know they have a warehouse in Jersey and one in Cali. So being close to either areas would help.

Live in Chicago.

Ordered the Video card on 08/10/2011. Will not get it delivered until Tuesday the 16th.

I ordered my nzxt phantom on 8/6/2011 received it on 08/11/2011.

Perhaps I am just spoiled by amazon prime.
 
LordCanti said:
I have no idea. Sometimes Windows is just a bitch. I once had to re-install Windows, because installing Itunes had rendered all of my other programs inoperable. They wouldn't even open. It was the damnedest thing I had ever seen.

This just started happening today though. And the power thing didn't work. Went into GTAIV and shit was getting in the sub 10 fps range and again fluctuating with usage. Got as low as 1%.

Maybe I'll have to do a Windows install tomorrow or something I dunno..
 
I bit the bullet and got an SSD today. Returned a Roku 2 player and got Corsair Force Series 3 120 GB SATA3, LG 12x Bluray burner, and Corsair 600T case.

The SSD SCREAMS! I went to watch some baseball during the Win7 setup, and I watched two batters and it was finished (around 5 mins).

I do have some questions for those with SSDs.

What is the best way to remap the user directory?
I'm missing about 25 GB. It says 74.1 GB free of 111 GB, but all directories (including hidden) are 12.1 GB total. Where is the other 24 GB?
 
Flying_Phoenix said:
For fucks sake.

After getting everything in order I started Steam and starting downloading Left 4 Dead 2.

After a bit my computer froze (this has never happened before).

So I restarted it. This time Steam doesn't open and gives this message.

fd6Jg.jpg


I deleted clientregistry.blob...same thing.

And the freezing occurs as a regularity now.

I assume its the new Raid setup?
No f'n way is that the RAID's fault. That is network related. How old is your router?
 
mkenyon said:
No f'n way is that the RAID's fault. That is network related. How old is your router?

A network problem wouldn't explain the freezes he's experiencing.

Smokey said:
This just started happening today though. And the power thing didn't work. Went into GTAIV and shit was getting in the sub 10 fps range and again fluctuating with usage. Got as low as 1%.

Maybe I'll have to do a Windows install tomorrow or something I dunno..

Try reinstalling the video card drivers. Maybe something got corrupted, or a setting got screwed up somehow.

element said:
I bit the bullet and got an SSD today. Returned a Roku 2 player and got Corsair Force Series 3 120 GB SATA3, LG 12x Bluray burner, and Corsair 600T case.

The SSD SCREAMS! I went to watch some baseball during the Win7 setup, and I watched two batters and it was finished (around 5 mins).

I do have some questions for those with SSDs.

What is the best way to remap the user directory?
I'm missing about 25 GB. It says 74.1 GB free of 111 GB, but all directories (including hidden) are 12.1 GB total. Where is the other 24 GB?

Does your SSD have space allocated for garbage collection? If so, it may take that out of the available space.

Check your page file, to make sure it isn't enormous for some reason.
 
element said:
I bit the bullet and got an SSD today. Returned a Roku 2 player and got Corsair Force Series 3 120 GB SATA3, LG 12x Bluray burner, and Corsair 600T case.

The SSD SCREAMS! I went to watch some baseball during the Win7 setup, and I watched two batters and it was finished (around 5 mins).

I do have some questions for those with SSDs.

What is the best way to remap the user directory?
I'm missing about 25 GB. It says 74.1 GB free of 111 GB, but all directories (including hidden) are 12.1 GB total. Where is the other 24 GB?

if you are comfortable, just disable system restore and hibernate. that will free up at least ~15gb of space from my past experience. hibernate is probably the first and safest to go imho.

also edit the pagefile if you have a lot of ram, say >8GB. i would set to min 512MB to max 4GB (32-bit limit) for my pagefile but Microsoft recommends pagefile to stay system managed....then again i never encountered any problems with my programs used so far.

these 3 "hidden" OS features are the main culprits taking up SSD space.
 
Smokey said:
This just started happening today though. And the power thing didn't work. Went into GTAIV and shit was getting in the sub 10 fps range and again fluctuating with usage. Got as low as 1%.

Maybe I'll have to do a Windows install tomorrow or something I dunno..


I thought gta4 was pretty poorly optimized for PC. I'd just shut her down and come back to it tomorrow. If you swept for drivers and reseated the card I don't know what a reformat would do unless you did some more tinkering in there.
 
Okay what the fuck. I just had a hell of a time getting my pc to get to the start-up repair screen. Uninstalled my nvidia drivers and rebooted.

Only way I could get system up was to remove my 2-3 month old new ram, and boot with the ram I bought with system.

Could all this shit just be bad fucking RAM finally rearing it's head? I want to try switching back to my 560, but I am afraid i wont boot again
 
Go sli, then when your gpu goes bad just pull the bad card and send it out for rma! :D

Smokey your issues could be anything from a bad psu to bad gpu. Does basic stuff work like safe mode + networking?

Edit: every sli build I've had (3) has had one of the gpus die in them. Had a 480 die after 3 months of light use.
 
Okay, I moved my 560/460 back and forth to my second PCI-e slot.

I post on either card from the second slot.


First time I try to load operating system, computer hard shut off.

Second time I am now loading windows.


Do I have a defective MOBO at this point?

Edit:

In summary, put 2 different cards in PCI-e slot 1. Neither is working now. Placed both cards in slot two, posting from either.
 
The_Inquisitor said:
Three of the "stand-offs" that bolt down onto the mobo screwed in tight. However, I noted one was kind of loose (the nut was spinning below it) Is this enough to cause the computer to turn off then immediately turn off?

If the bolt can't be tightened and the screw attaching the heatsink won't screw in (keep spinning), then it's possible the screw or bolt has lost its threading, and that would mean it isn't holding the heatsink tight on one end, which could explain high temperatures. I had the threading go on my old GPU cooler, just one of 4, and it went from cooling the card well to having to shut down on anything intensive. If you can't tighten it up, you'd probably need to look into getting a new cooler, if it's not on warranty. The bolt itself though, is probably ok if it spins a bit but the cooler screws into it well, as long as it's still pressing tight against the motherboard.

[edit] Oops, nevermind, I missed the post where you said that you fixed it now.

mkenyon said:
Got the new PSU installed, unfortunately, it has coil whine *all of the time*. Will need to RMA to Seasonic after it starts bugging me enough. Don't notice it while gaming or listening to music, just when sitting around browsing with no headphones.

You probably did, but make sure it is the PSU that's making the noise. While the type of motherboard does make a difference, anecdotally, I have the same Seasonic and it made no coil whine, while my previous Corsair did. I do notice the Seasonic spinning up the fan from idle from time to time, but that's a pretty intermittent noise. But yeah, if it's coming from the PSU, it could be either the unit itself is defective or it's just how the PSU interacts with your particular motherboard. Unfortunately, there's no way to be sure unless maybe you know your way around the design of these things, so you'd probably just have to RMA it and hope it was just defective and not a compatibility issue.
 
The_Inquisitor said:
Okay, I moved my 560/460 back and forth to my second PCI-e slot.

I post on either card from the second slot.


First time I try to load operating system, computer hard shut off.

Second time I am now loading windows.


Do I have a defective MOBO at this point?

Edit:

In summary, put 2 different cards in PCI-e slot 1. Neither is working now. Placed both cards in slot two, posting from either.

It sure sounds like something has fucked up in relation to the first PCI-E slot.
 
LordCanti said:
It sure sounds like something has fucked up in relation to the first PCI-E slot.

Trying to re-install GPU drivers (pretty sure 460 and 560 use same package anyways). Fucking windows device installer taking forever. Can't run wizard without it.

All I fucking wanted to do was apply new thermal paste to my CPU. Why the fuck did this all happen?

Edit: GPU driver is finally going through. Going to reboot after it finishes, and see if i'm okay. Then i'll swap back to slot 1 and see if it works.

Edit2: GPU drivers successfully installed and computer rebooted perfectly. Now the scary part. Time to swap slots and try again.
 
The_Inquisitor said:
Time for the mindfuck. Put my 560 back into slot1. Computer just posted.


WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT.

That doesn't make any sense at all. A windows driver shouldn't impede a computer from...


Aah screw it.
 
Kadey said:
? Where do you live? They get stuff to me no later than the next they after shipping it. I know they have a warehouse in Jersey and one in Cali. So being close to either areas would help.

Newegg is considerably slower than Amazon in actually shipping it out. Took them 2.5 days to ship the product and then another 3 days to actually ship here despite paying for 2 day shipping. I live in a major city too.
 
The_Inquisitor said:
Time for the mindfuck. Put my 560 back into slot1. Computer just posted.


WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT.


This is exactly how my old msi motherboard acted before it eventually took a complete dump.
 
The Teachinator said:
I thought gta4 was pretty poorly optimized for PC. I'd just shut her down and come back to it tomorrow. If you swept for drivers and reseated the card I don't know what a reformat would do unless you did some more tinkering in there.

I know it is but fuck that, there's NO WAY my machine should be in the 10fps range even with all settings on medium for testing. This all started this morning when I just wanted to mess with the game and check out the ice mod. I think I found the issue though, I'll explain below.

gatti-man said:
Go sli, then when your gpu goes bad just pull the bad card and send it out for rma! :D

Smokey your issues could be anything from a bad psu to bad gpu. Does basic stuff work like safe mode + networking?

Edit: every sli build I've had (3) has had one of the gpus die in them. Had a 480 die after 3 months of light use.

Yeah I did safe mode and networking and it worked fine. I've also gone back to the 275.33 drivers.

I think I may have found the culprit: D3DOverrider. With it on Afterburner nor EVGA Precision will work (i.e. some games in Steam will just have a black screen). When I cut it off the game (GTA4) worked fine, with the EVGA overlay. My GPU usage shot up to 99% as well. It dipped when it needed to I guess, but whenever a lot of intensive stuff was happening it went back up to 90+% and I ended up averaging 55-60fps with everything on Very High except water. Compared to earlier it was in the sub 20 range with everything on medium.

Similar story with Hot Pursuit. Although the game was only using 27-30% of my GPU(lol) it was still locked at 60fps. With D3D It was very choppy ala GTA IV.

This is what I've come to after doing this all damn day. I just wanted to play my games :(
 
Wait, what's the point of Asus' "EZ Flash" in BIOS under EFI when Asus themselves don't even upload EFI capable updates? I downloaded a fresh BIOS update off their own website and it just tells me it isn't an EFI BIOS.
 
LordCanti said:
That doesn't make any sense at all. A windows driver shouldn't impede a computer from...


Aah screw it.

I know that drivers can impede PCI-E ports from working, at times. I had huge problem installing my sound card because some drivers (which I hear came from a Windows update, seen as "ACS-6xxxx" in device manager) took over the PLX function of my monitor (that, on 1156 boards, the allowed full speed USB 3.0 / Sata 6 without taking up resources from the PCI-E ports). Don't know if this is an issue at all anymore, but I know that drivers can potentially mess up things you wouldn't think they should be able to.
 
Kurashima said:
I know that drivers can impede PCI-E ports from working, at times. I had huge problem installing my sound card because some drivers (which I hear came from a Windows update, seen as "ACS-6xxxx" in device manager) took over the PLX function of my monitor (that, on 1156 boards, the allowed full speed USB 3.0 / Sata 6 without taking up resources from the PCI-E ports). Don't know if this is an issue at all anymore, but I know that drivers can potentially mess up things you wouldn't think they should be able to.

This.

I think this is partially what happened to me. I installed a sound card today and all hell broke lose. Uninstalled it now and it's back in the box for a return. Sucks because it sounds so good to me :(
 
It's fucked again. I am locking up on post even with my 460 in slot one. About to attempt moving my gpu over to slot 2 again.

I even had a BSOD when i got past post one time.

I have had issues with this mobo on and off for a year. If I left my printer plugged in at boot, my computer wouldn't post.

I also had a ton of issues when I got my new RAM in. I am really starting to suspect my mobo.

It's a gigabyte, so if I send it in, I can expect to have no computer for over 2 weeks right?

If that's true, what would be a comparable mobo for my system? (i5-750). I am fed up dealing with this POS.
 
Smokey said:
This.

I think this is partially what happened to me. I installed a sound card today and all hell broke lose. Uninstalled it now and it's back in the box for a return. Sucks because it sounds so good to me :(

That's why I usually tell people not to upgrade a system once it is stable. Good chance of buggering it.
 
Smokey said:
I know it is but fuck that, there's NO WAY my machine should be in the 10fps range even with all settings on medium for testing. This all started this morning when I just wanted to mess with the game and check out the ice mod. I think I found the issue though, I'll explain below.



Yeah I did safe mode and networking and it worked fine. I've also gone back to the 275.33 drivers.

I think I may have found the culprit: D3DOverrider. With it on Afterburner nor EVGA Precision will work (i.e. some games in Steam will just have a black screen). When I cut it off the game (GTA4) worked fine, with the EVGA overlay. My GPU usage shot up to 99% as well. It dipped when it needed to I guess, but whenever a lot of intensive stuff was happening it went back up to 90+% and I ended up averaging 55-60fps with everything on Very High except water. Compared to earlier it was in the sub 20 range with everything on medium.

Similar story with Hot Pursuit. Although the game was only using 27-30% of my GPU(lol) it was still locked at 60fps. With D3D It was very choppy ala GTA IV.

This is what I've come to after doing this all damn day. I just wanted to play my games :(

Why don't people just use Nvidia Inspector to do everything from triple buffering and AA settings to overclocking the card and upping gpu fan speed?

Am I missing something here? What is the advantage of using D3Doverrider over Inspector for triple buffering?

I use Inspector to force AA and triple buffering on games I play and overclock my card. It is so simple and hassle free, just start up the program before i play any game.

*Assuming you are using an Nvidia card of course ;)
 
Smokey said:
This.

I think this is partially what happened to me. I installed a sound card today and all hell broke lose. Uninstalled it now and it's back in the box for a return. Sucks because it sounds so good to me :(
What card was it? I installed an omega claro halo soundcard and it works great. I use it for its headphone amp primarily.
 
AwesomeSauce said:
Why don't people just use Nvidia Inspector to do everything from triple buffering and AA settings to overclocking the card and upping gpu fan speed?

Am I missing something here? What is the advantage of using D3Doverrider over Inspector for triple buffering?

I use Inspector to force AA and triple buffering on games I play and overclock my card. It is so simple and hassle free, just start up the program before i play any game.

Guess I will. I have it but some of those options get kind of deep and I haven't really set forth time to mess around with it.

gatti-man said:
What card was it? I installed an omega claro halo soundcard and it works great. I use it for its headphone amp primarily.

ASUS Xonar DG. My intent was to use it for it's headphone amp too. Was going to get a nice pair for BF3.

LordCanti said:
That's why I usually tell people not to upgrade a system once it is stable. Good chance of buggering it.

I see. I hope it stays stable. I guess I'll try using Inspector for everything as mentioned above.
 
Smokey said:
This.

I think this is partially what happened to me. I installed a sound card today and all hell broke lose. Uninstalled it now and it's back in the box for a return. Sucks because it sounds so good to me :(

What happened with mine (Asus Xonar STX) is that I couldn't install the drivers for it, because when installing, it said that the card wasn't plugged in (the bad driver forcing the PCI-E slot not to recognize it). If that's the case for you, you can read about what I did with it here. Maybe it'll help, but maybe you have a different problem.
 
Now I have no video regardless of what card or what slot I use. Thoughts?

Edit: Removed my newer fucking ram, it restarted on "loading operating system" and now it works. SON OF A FUCKING BITCH!

Oh my god, I want to punch a kitten! (not really, I think kittens are cute)


So now I am highly fucking suspicious I may have defective fucking ram. Going to swap and see if it fails to post again.


Edit: Computer works perfectly. Now going to add in the other ram into slots 1 & 3 again.
 
Kurashima said:
What happened with mine (Asus Xonar STX) is that I couldn't install the drivers for it, because when installing, it said that the card wasn't plugged in (the bad driver forcing the PCI-E slot not to recognize it). If that's the case for you, you can read about what I did with it here. Maybe it'll help, but maybe you have a different problem.


That did happen to me. The card was plugged in but after the installation prompt was finished it told me to insert the Xonar and try again. I clicked cancel and tried to restart and it got stuck on shutdown screen for like 10 mins. Powered down and then back up and my machine recognized the Xonar but no drivers. THEN I put the disc back in and it worked as it should have.

I installed/uninstalled this thing 3 times today and each time this happened. Think I'm just going to return it, tired of looking at it.
 
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