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[The_Inquisitor]

Computer posted perfectly with ram pairs swapped. Now attempting to switch back in gtx570. It sounds to me like my MOBO has become extremely fucking sensitive.

Edit: Computer did not display with 560 in. Swapped 460 in to slot one and attempted again. Still will not display. Going to try removing ram again.

 

[Smokey]

Why don't people just use Nvidia Inspector to do everything from triple buffering and AA settings to overclocking the card and upping gpu fan speed?

Am I missing something here? What is the advantage of using D3Doverrider over Inspector for triple buffering?

I use Inspector to force AA and triple buffering on games I play and overclock my card. It is so simple and hassle free, just start up the program before i play any game.

*Assuming you are using an Nvidia card of course

Just thought of this but when using Inspector for triple buffering etc, isn't it essentially adjusting the Nvidia control panel? I was using D3D because I read that adjusting for vsync and triple buffering in NV Panel doesn't do anything for non-opengl games.

When using Inspector for AA, I assume that you choose the Override option rather than Enhance or App control?

 

[The_Inquisitor]

I'm at the end of my rope. Judging from what I have posted so far, do I have a fucking MOBO issue?

 

[AwesomeSauce]

Just thought of this but when using Inspector for triple buffering etc, isn't it essentially adjusting the Nvidia control panel? I was using D3D because I read that adjusting for vsync and triple buffering in NV Panel doesn't do anything for non-opengl games.

When using Inspector for AA, I assume that you choose the Override option rather than Enhance or App control?

It works on D3D games.

And yes i do use the "force on" setting when forcing AA. The enhance and app control are only when you don't need to force AA for a particular game and the games AA option already works fine.

 

[Smokey]

It works on D3D games.

And yes i do use the "force on" setting when forcing AA. The enhance and app control are only when you don't need to force AA for a particular game and the games AA option already works fine.

Got ya.

What AA option do you use or do you find works the best? There's so many options to choose from and my Anti-Aliasing knowledge isn't all that great. What transparency supersampling?

 

[AwesomeSauce]

Got ya.

What AA option do you use or do you find works the best? There's so many options to choose from and my Anti-Aliasing knowledge isn't all that great. What transparency supersampling?

Honestly I'm still rocking an old GTX 260 so I tend to stick with 4xMSAA.

If you got a beastly gpu then by all means try out the supersampling options. I'm sure someone else on this thread knows more about those settings.

Isn't supersampling basically when you render the game at a higher res then downsample it to the resolution you play on basically eliminating jaggies everywhere. Basically it's the best AA, but big performance killer if you don't have a top end gpu.

 

[The_Inquisitor]

Got it finally working with my 460 in slot two. Fuck it, I really think my MOBO is dying. Going to fry's to get one tomorrow. I see the ASRock recommendation in OP, but just in case they dont have one, what do you guys suggest?

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

@Flying_Phoenix - Yes, I'm pretty sure the RAID array is probably the issue. When you change something major like that, things can go south.

So what do I do?

Reinstall windows?

Since I've Raid 0'd it, does that mean I can never separate the two drives again?

 

[LordCanti]

So what do I do?

Reinstall windows?

Since I've Raid 0'd it, does that mean I can never separate the two drives again?

No. The drives can be formatted as regular drives, after you un-raid them in the bios.

I would undo the RAID, and see if any issues persist. If they don't, you can be pretty sure that the RAID array was causing the issues.



Alright, I'm going to sleep. Good luck to anyone out there that is still tinkering with a busted computer.

 

[The_Inquisitor]

No. The drives can be formatted as regular drives, after you un-raid them in the bios.

I would undo the RAID, and see if any issues persist. If they don't, you can be pretty sure that the RAID array was causing the issues.



Alright, I'm going to sleep. Good luck to anyone out there that is still tinkering with a busted computer.

I'm running atm but barely. Just going to buy a new MOBO tomorrow. Something is seriously wrong with mine. I have eliminated pretty much everything else.

 

[JaseC]

Quick question: is there a way to determine the age of my current Windows (7) installation?

 

[AkIRA_22]

Oh my fucking god. So beautiful. You put my case setup to shame. May I ask what case that is?

cheers man, it's a fractal Design ARC. The best case I've ever bought, HIGHLY recommended.

 

[larvi]

Quick question: is there a way to determine the age of my current Windows (7) installation?

Go to windows\panther directory and check the date that directory was created. That's where the setup files and logs are contained.

 

[JaseC]

Go to windows\panther directory and check the date that directory was created. That's where the setup files and logs are contained.

Cheers.

 

[Dries]

Well, recently I got a new job and since I've been out of PC gaming for about four years, so I've decided to treat myself to a new gaming PC. Since I've been out of the PC gaming world for a bit I've got no idea what kind of system I need. The games that I MUST play are:

- Crysis
- The Witcher 2

Both of these games I want to run on maximum settings with full AA and all that kind of stuff and have a more than decent framerate. How much would a system like this cost me? And what kind of setup should I be wanting to get?

Anyone? I just need an idea what kind of rig I will be needing to run these games on highest settings with a good framerate. What should I be aiming for?

 

[Corky]

Anyone? I just need an idea what kind of rig I will be needing to run these games on highest settings with a good framerate. What should I be aiming for?

Depends on what you mean with good framerate. For me good( decent ) is 45 and up, with max settings and AA for those ( c2 and tw2 ) games : 2500k and 580. For 60 fps and you'll probably need to go dual gpu. Also in when you say "full AA " I take for granted you just mean AA, in the range of ~4xMSAA and not like 8xSGSSAA which I'd say is "full" :3

 

[Dries]

Depends on what you mean with good framerate. For me good( decent ) is 45 and up, with max settings and AA for those ( c2 and tw2 ) games : 2500k and 580. For 60 fps and you'll probably need to go dual gpu. Also in when you say "full AA " I take for granted you just mean AA, in the range of ~4xMSAA and not like 8xSGSSAA which I'd say is "full" :3

45 fps sounds good to me, yeah. Thanks for the reccommendations, but I think it'll work better if I just post a potential set-up here and then I'll get some feedback from you guys. But thanks anyway.

 

[Corky]

45 fps sounds good to me, yeah. Thanks for the reccommendations, but I think it'll work better if I just post a potential set-up here and then I'll get some feedback from you guys. But thanks anyway.

Yeah, well atleast you got an idea now :3

 

[KoruptData]

I run The Witcher 2 with all high settings at 1680 x 1050 with only bloom and motion blur disabled with my i7 2600s and 6850 at 40 to 60 fps. Its really smooth.

 

[woodsey1982]

Been looking at graphics cards for my new built - budget of around £230 or so.

I've seen this for £223.98 ( GeForce GTX 560 Ti Super OC ).

But is it worth the extra £25 for the basic GTX 570 here ? There's more cuda processors but they are running slower than the OC'd 560.

Any opinions?

 

[Manp]

Cheers.

Start -> Run -> cmd -> OK

at the command prompt type systeminfo and hit return

there you have time and date of the installation

 

[JaseC]

Start -> Run -> cmd -> OK

at the command prompt type systeminfo and hit return

there you have time and date of the installation

Great, ta. I see the original install date/time is precisely the same as that of creation/last modified date of the setup.etl file in the Panther folder.

 

[mtommy]

Hello,

I started to OC my 2500k; currently running 4.5Ghz with VCore set to 1.25v
How long should i run Prime95 ?? So far everything looks ok, when would i know for sure that it is stable with these "current" settings/amounts?

 

[knitoe]

Hello,

I started to OC my 2500k; currently running 4.5Ghz with VCore set to 1.25v
How long should i run Prime95 ?? So far everything looks ok, when would i know for sure that it is stable with these "current" settings/amounts?

Run it for 3-4 hours. If you want to be more sure, go 24 hours. Also, load up HWmonitor to see min/max Vcore.

 

[MedIC86]

Anyone? I just need an idea what kind of rig I will be needing to run these games on highest settings with a good framerate. What should I be aiming for?

Do you need everything ? as in speakers, screen etc ?

If thats the case, and you want to play those mentioned games on maximum with good fps....
I reckon around 2000$ at least,

 

[iSurvivedTheOutage]

So yeah..After about 10 mins of gameplay of TF2 my PC freezing and my speakers make this LOUD buzzing noise. Only way to stop is by manually powering off. I think its a driver issue. I installed the drivers that came with the Asus 560 ti (TOP), but when I try to install the newest version of the drivers from the Asus Website (nvidia driver 270.48)the Nvidia installer says that the install cannot continue because it cant find compatible graphics hardware. So then I go to the Nvidia site, let the program inspect my computer, and I install their latest driver (which is 280.26) and everything works fine until about 10 mins of gameplay and i get that freeze and that buzz. Can anyone help? plz this is so frustrating.

 

[mtommy]

Run it for 3-4 hours. If you want to be more sure, go 24 hours. Also, load up HWmonitor to see min/max Vcore.

Ok, thanks.
This is the first time, that i'm attempting any OC on my CPU, so i might overlooked something.

 

[MedIC86]

So yeah..After about 10 mins of gameplay of TF2 my PC freezing and my speakers make this LOUD buzzing noise. Only way to stop is by manually powering off. I think its a driver issue. I installed the drivers that came with the Asus 560 ti (TOP), but when I try to install the newest version of the drivers from the Asus Website (nvidia driver 270.48)the Nvidia installer says that the install cannot continue because it cant find compatible graphics hardware. So then I go to the Nvidia site, let the program inspect my computer, and I install their latest driver (which is 280.26) and everything works fine until about 10 mins of gameplay and i get that freeze and that buzz. Can anyone help? plz this is so frustrating.

Hmm, first tip: always get the drivers from nvidia.com, dont bother with Asus or any other sites.
Second, try this: http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html

ty nabs

 

[MedIC86]

Ok, thanks.
This is the first time, that i'm attempting any OC on my CPU, so i might overlooked something.

Are those numbers in the middle on real temp your current cpu temps? if so, check if the thermal paste is applied properly and if the heat sink is screwed on properly, because 6 degrees different between cores is a bit weird

 

[Nabs]

Hmm, first tip: always get the drivers from nvidia.com, dont bother with Asus or any other sites.
Second, try this: http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/

The Guru3D link is outdated, here's an updated version of ds: http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html

 

[1-D_FTW]

So yeah..After about 10 mins of gameplay of TF2 my PC freezing and my speakers make this LOUD buzzing noise. Only way to stop is by manually powering off. I think its a driver issue. I installed the drivers that came with the Asus 560 ti (TOP), but when I try to install the newest version of the drivers from the Asus Website (nvidia driver 270.48)the Nvidia installer says that the install cannot continue because it cant find compatible graphics hardware. So then I go to the Nvidia site, let the program inspect my computer, and I install their latest driver (which is 280.26) and everything works fine until about 10 mins of gameplay and i get that freeze and that buzz. Can anyone help? plz this is so frustrating.

What do you mean by buzzing? Is it one long continuous BEEP? I had this same problem when L4D2 launched. And it was driving me crazy. Was more random. But I couldn't figure it out. It sounded like a POST beep, but it was coming through my headphones while the screen was frozen. Turns out my northbridge heatsink had popped a screw and was no longer seated flush. My northbridge chip was overheating and causing memory issues as a result. Would download a program to see what your temp readings are on it.

EDIT: For clarity's sake, I would have opened the case a lot earlier if any non-Valve games had been giving me issues. Actually discovered the issue when I opened it for some regular dusting.

 

[Revoh]

So here's my first question regarding my new rig:

I have a Sapphire HD 6870 running iddle at 45° C. When I play a game it reaches 80-90°C but the fan doesn't kicks in and it stays at 30%. Why is this? Is the card designed to take this much heat so it doesn't even activates the fan? I manually set the fan to 50% but it's super loud so I put it back to automatic.

 

[iSurvivedTheOutage]

What do you mean by buzzing? Is it one long continuous BEEP? I had this same problem when L4D2 launched. And it was driving me crazy. Was more random. But I couldn't figure it out. It sounded like a POST beep, but it was coming through my headphones while the screen was frozen. Turns out my northbridge heatsink had popped a screw and was no longer seated flush. My northbridge chip was overheating and causing memory issues as a result. Would download a program to see what your temp readings are on it.

nah it was buzzing..temps on mobo gpu and cpu are 30 below idle...Im going to try to run that sweeper then check temps on load I guess.

 

[mtommy]

Are those numbers in the middle on real temp your current cpu temps? if so, check if the thermal paste is applied properly and if the heat sink is screwed on properly, because 6 degrees different between cores is a bit weird

Interesting.
I was pretty sure that it is normal to see several degrees difference between the cores, but i'l double check. Thanks.

 

[Cptkrush]

So here's my first question regarding my new rig:

I have a Sapphire HD 6870 running iddle at 45° C. When I play a game it reaches 80-90°C but the fan doesn't kicks in and it stays at 30%. Why is this? Is the card designed to take this much heat so it doesn't even activates the fan? I manually set the fan to 50% but it's super loud so I put it back to automatic.

You have to use third party software. For your card, give Trixx a go, there's options to change what percentage the fan kicks to at a certain temperature.
http://www.sapphireselectclub.com/ssc/TriXX/TriXX.aspx

 

[n0n44m]

Are those numbers in the middle on real temp your current cpu temps? if so, check if the thermal paste is applied properly and if the heat sink is screwed on properly, because 6 degrees different between cores is a bit weird

Sandy Bridge CPUs have some pretty large temperature fluctuations between cores, nothing out of the ordinary there

 

[1-D_FTW]

nah it was buzzing..temps on mobo gpu and cpu are 30 below idle...Im going to try to run that sweeper then check temps on load I guess.

That's not the temps I was talking about. Your motherboard has a northbridge chip that is the brains for memory management and stuff. If the thermal paste was poorly applied/cheap and suddenly became an issue, it's possible that would be a problem. 10 minutes of gaming would be long enough to heat it up.

I guess it depends on what your definition of buzzing is. If it's just static, forget what I said.

 

[Sethos]

Are those numbers in the middle on real temp your current cpu temps? if so, check if the thermal paste is applied properly and if the heat sink is screwed on properly, because 6 degrees different between cores is a bit weird

Not with the new i5/i7s, two cores tend to run hotter no matter what, sometimes just one of them.

 

[iSurvivedTheOutage]

So I run the Driver Sweep, reboot. Nvidia installer says the drivers are installed. Thing is....every time I install the drivers (after uninstalling them of course) I get a little pop up message from Windows saying the device did not install correctly. Says that USB controller - no driver found (x2). Anyone know whats up with that?

 

[Chinner]

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/components/powersupplies/CMPSU-650HXUK.html

this any good? for a friend.

 

[MedIC86]

Not with the new i5/i7s, two cores tend to run hotter no matter what, sometimes just one of them.

Ah ic, i only have hands on experience with amd, and since my x6 differs 1 degree max, ok nevermind then ;D

 

[n0n44m]

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/components/powersupplies/CMPSU-650HXUK.html

this any good? for a friend.

can't comment on price but it's a great PSU for any single card or up to two 560ti/6950 or similar cards

 

[ChiefKief]

So I run the Driver Sweep, reboot. Nvidia installer says the drivers are installed. Thing is....every time I install the drivers (after uninstalling them of course) I get a little pop up message from Windows saying the device did not install correctly. Says that USB controller - no driver found (x2). Anyone know whats up with that?

Why would it say anything about your USB ports if your gfx cards don't even interact with them? D:

 

[Smokey]

So yeah..After about 10 mins of gameplay of TF2 my PC freezing and my speakers make this LOUD buzzing noise. Only way to stop is by manually powering off. I think its a driver issue. I installed the drivers that came with the Asus 560 ti (TOP), but when I try to install the newest version of the drivers from the Asus Website (nvidia driver 270.48)the Nvidia installer says that the install cannot continue because it cant find compatible graphics hardware. So then I go to the Nvidia site, let the program inspect my computer, and I install their latest driver (which is 280.26) and everything works fine until about 10 mins of gameplay and i get that freeze and that buzz. Can anyone help? plz this is so frustrating.

Those 280.26 drivers were giving me issues all day yesterday. Try the 275.33 set.

 

[Chinner]

my friennd is asking about PSU cable management. i mean i guess it depends on what case you have and how long the wires are on your PSU.

hes thinking:
coolermaster elite 430
Corsair 650W

what is gafs opinion? yay/nay or any better alternatives? ta.

 

[chaosblade]

my friennd is asking about PSU cable management. i mean i guess it depends on what case you have and how long the wires are on your PSU.

hes thinking:
coolermaster elite 430
Corsair 650W

what is gafs opinion?

Cable management is going to be rough, nowhere to put them from the looks of it. No way to get them behind the motherboard tray, so they'll have to go across the top of everything and any leftover cables will just have to sit at the bottom of the case.

 

[childplease]

Think something might be wrong with my bios settings.

I believe I set the voltage to 1.33 yet cpuz , hw monitor says the following.

 

[gatti-man]

That did happen to me. The card was plugged in but after the installation prompt was finished it told me to insert the Xonar and try again. I clicked cancel and tried to restart and it got stuck on shutdown screen for like 10 mins. Powered down and then back up and my machine recognized the Xonar but no drivers. THEN I put the disc back in and it worked as it should have.

I installed/uninstalled this thing 3 times today and each time this happened. Think I'm just going to return it, tired of looking at it.

I tried the xonar ST first as well. It was a total pain. Returned it to amazon the next day.

 

[SneakyStephan]

Any suggestions for a PSU for a friend?
requirements :
-1 gpu, no crossfire ever, but supposed to last a few years., so anything over 650 W would be massive overkill for him

-quiet!!! super important this!

-reliable, ease of installing

value/bang for buck, no needlessly expensive ones 'just because'.

Also how about this ram? : http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/...dr3-pc3-10666/1333mhz/OCZ/OCZ3P1333LV6GK.html
Those are some sweet timings, and it's not expensive at all for 6GB.

edit , with this mobo : http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/...motherboards/Asus/90-MIBDZA-G0EAY00Z.html#sp2
Does it matter that the mobo doesn't support triple channel set up for ram?
Would it still work in dual channel mode? (4GB of it at least) , or would I need to get 2x4GB or 4x 2GB for that?

 

[iSurvivedTheOutage]

Alright so apparently moving my clock from the factory overclock of 900Mhz down to 830 solved the problem. 30 mins of gameplay no issues. This isnt the first time ive heard of moving the core clock down to reference solving peoples issues. Whats up with that?