"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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So... what's the GPU situation at the mo. I'll probably be looking at throwing in something mid range but tasty around the release of BF3. Are we expecting anything near then?
 
Psychotext said:
So... what's the GPU situation at the mo. I'll probably be looking at throwing in something mid range but tasty around the release of BF3. Are we expecting anything near then?

As in the next generation of GPUs? They won't be out until late Q4 2011 at the earliest. I expect them to be out Q1 2012.
 
Guys I'm having a weird issue right now (at least I just noticed it) I'm browsing stuff on the internet and when I scroll through pages my speakers make a buzzing type of sound, especially when I scroll really fast, seems to be when the PC is reading or loading stuff.

Any idea what the cause/fix may be? It's really annoying.

One thing to note and also another thing that I wanted to ask is that after I got the ASUS P8P67 whenever I play games I get a really audible buzz sound coming through the speakers as well, it's really noticeable when the volume is somewhat low or there isn't much going on in the game, I don't know if this has something to do with Realtek or the GPU and this mobo or something, I know it's not the GPU alone since it wasn't making this noise before the upgrade, and from my research some even say that it's related to when the GPU is in use and some weird resonance or something.

I'm at a loss here, I need your help GAF, let me fix this annoying issue it's the only thing that is keeping me from being extremely happy and content with my upgrade.

Btw, the buzzing sound is audible even when I mute the speakers and also I've downloaded the latest drivers, etc.
 
Nekrono said:
Guys I'm having a weird issue right now (at least I just noticed it) I'm browsing stuff on the internet and when I scroll through pages my speakers make a buzzing type of sound, especially when I scroll really fast, seems to be when the PC is reading or loading stuff.

Any idea what the cause/fix may be? It's really annoying.

One thing to note and also another thing that I wanted to ask is that after I got the ASUS P8P67 whenever I play games I get a really audible buzz sound coming through the speakers as well, it's really noticeable when the volume is somewhat low or there isn't much going on in the game, I don't know if this has something to do with Realtek or the GPU and this mobo or something, I know it's not the GPU alone since it wasn't making this noise before the upgrade, and from my research some even say that it's related to when the GPU is in use and some weird resonance or something.

I'm at a loss here, I need your help GAF, let me fix this annoying issue it's the only thing that is keeping me from being extremely happy and content with my upgrade.

Btw, the buzzing sound is audible even when I mute the speakers and also I've downloaded the latest drivers, etc.
Bad audio jack/cable. Is it by chance plugged in to the front panel?
 
mkenyon said:
Bad audio jack/cable. Is it by chance plugged in to the front panel?
No, it's plugged through the back, and also I doubt it's the audio jacks/cables since I didn't have this issue prior to the upgrade, it happened after I switched to the new mobo, also it doesn't make the sound if I sit idle doing nothing. It seems to be only when the computer is reading/loading.
 
Nekrono said:
Guys I'm having a weird issue right now (at least I just noticed it) I'm browsing stuff on the internet and when I scroll through pages my speakers make a buzzing type of sound, especially when I scroll really fast, seems to be when the PC is reading or loading stuff.

Any idea what the cause/fix may be? It's really annoying.

Try turning the volume knob all the way up on your speakers and adjusting the volume down in Windows.
 
Borgnine said:
Try turning the volume knob all the way up on your speakers and adjusting the volume down in Windows.
That's how I've always had it :\. I'm really at a loss here, I'm starting to think it's got something to do with the circuits and/or some sort of static within the motherboard/parts.

I will do a cleanup on the PC soon and I'll take it apart, I hope it's one of those issues that "magically" disappear otherwise it's gonna bug me and I'll have to get a sound card.
 
Nekrono said:
No, it's plugged through the back, and also I doubt it's the audio jacks/cables since I didn't have this issue prior to the upgrade, it happened after I switched to the new mobo, also it doesn't make the sound if I sit idle doing nothing. It seems to be only when the computer is reading/loading.
I have the same issue. I've read that it has to do with interference due the location of the sound chip on the motherboard or the quality of the parts used. You end up hearing when your PCs under some specific load. I've noticed that it happens in game menus, with VSYNC off, so my guess it's the graphics card causing interference directly, or indirectly by drawing more power, or something. I'm no expert, but thus are my observations. I have FRAPS running right now and it actually measures performance in Firefox (due to hardware acceleration, I think?). When I scroll quickly, I can get the FPS above 260 easily, and the buzzing becomes really noticeable. The same thing happens in game menus when vsyn is off.
It doesn't annoy me all that much, so I've never seriously looked into solutions to this. Only thing that comes to mind is to use a discrete sound card, which should be a lot less vulnerable to interference, whether by virtue of being discrete, use of better parts, or some other mechanism to cut down on interference.
 
garath said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4572/kepler-gpus-shipping-this-year-nvidia-says-yes

Nvidia is saying that the next generation of GPU - Kepler - will begin shipping this year. Great news if that's the case. We could see AMD and Nvidia with new gaming cards in short order.
So, my information is anecdotal, but I'll share anyway. There's an Nvidia rep who I've developed a friendship with at a major LAN event. He said that they ran into manufacturing processes to the folks they outsource to (forgot the name of the company), and that Kepler is delayed till late Q1 or early Q2 2012. Maybe they had some sort of breakthrough in the last three weeks where this is no longer the case, but that seems unlikely.
 
Rufus said:
I have the same issue. I've read that it has to do with interference due the location of the sound chip on the motherboard. You end up hearing when your PCs under load. I've noticed that it often happens in game menus, with VSYNC off, so my guess it's the graphics card causing interference directly, or indirectly by drawing more power, or something... I'm no expert, but thus are my observations. I have fraps running right now and it actually measures performance in Firefox (hardware acceleration, I think?). When I scroll quickly, I can get the FPS above 260 easily, and the buzzing becomes really noticeable.
It doesn't annoy me all that much, so I've never seriously looked into solutions to this. Only thing that comes to mind is to use a discrete sound card, which should be a lot less vulnerable to interference, whether that just by virtue of being discrete, using better parts, or some other mechanism to cut down on interference.
Yeah that sounds more like it, man that sucks if it's really what's causing it since I really don't want to buy/have a sound card when my on board audio is more than capable.

This sucks, maybe there's other people with the same issue that have found a fix?
 
Borgnine said:
Try turning the volume knob all the way up on your speakers and adjusting the volume down in Windows.
Turn the volume all the way up in windows and adjust the volume with your speakers
 
mkenyon said:
So, my information is anecdotal, but I'll share anyway. There's an Nvidia rep who I've developed a friendship with at a major LAN event. He said that they ran into manufacturing processes to the folks they outsource to (forgot the name of the company), and that Kepler is delayed till late Q1 or early Q2 2012. Maybe they had some sort of breakthrough in the last three weeks where this is no longer the case, but that seems unlikely.

This happens all the time with chip manufacturing, hence why CPUs and GPUs often don't make launch dates that were set many months ahead of time. Yeah I'm thinking the Nvidia quote was more of a stockholder/PR pleaser. Not surprised my skepticism seems to have some merit according to your source.
 
Nekrono said:
Yeah that sounds more like it, man that sucks if it's really what's causing it since I really don't want to buy/have a sound card when my on board audio is more than capable.

This sucks, maybe there's other people with the same issue that have found a fix?
It's definitely EMI, a sound card is likely to remedy it (although it will never go away entirely, there's always going to be electromagnetic interference).

Here, get this sound card. $25 right now, $15 after MIR. Great for the price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132020
 
Nekrono said:
Yeah that sounds more like it, man that sucks if it's really what's causing it since I really don't want to buy/have a sound card when my on board audio is more than capable.

This sucks, maybe there's other people with the same issue that have found a fix?

Mine went away when I replaced my power supply.
So did the high pitched squeal when under load that I chose to ignore for far too long.
 
I would go with a USB DAC (soundcard). Getting the audio outside of the computer should help a lot.

Try the PCI soundcard first, but a USB soundcard is the second option.
 
Ooccoo said:
Who has the Nvidia GeForce GTX 580? Is it worth it or should I wait for a price drop?

The $150-$250 range is the best bang for the buck range. The GTX 580 is great (I have one) but it's also nearly $500, so it had better be great. The GTX 570 is a much better value, but even that is kind of expensive compared to where the GTX 560ti sits in terms of price.

The more money you spend, the more diminishing your returns. Definitely look up benchmarks for the games you'll be playing, at the resolution your monitor outputs.
 
Ooccoo said:
Who has the Nvidia GeForce GTX 580? Is it worth it or should I wait for a price drop?
Like Lord Canti said, it's totally up to you whether or not it's worth it. Some people demand total performance, some people are happy with turning a few things down. It's subjective.
 
How long would anyone here expect a laptop to last? I've had mine for two and a half years now and I've had to get the screen replaced twice (on warranty) and the cord is now starting to not charge. (Wouldn't be covered) Its a studio series Dell that I honestly thought would last longer.
 
That's a shitty thing to have happen to your laptop in that amount of time. Two screen replacements, I mean. The power cord thing is almost a given, though.
 
I've got an old HP laptop that is going on..heck...seven, maybe eight years. The battery no longer holds a charge, but it serves as a stationary torrent couch web browsing machine.

The battery is usually the first thing to go. I doubt it is the cord that is the problem (if it is, a replacement shouldn't be that hard to come by).

Firestorm said:
Best SSD under $150? halp

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167049

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

May have to RMA the Intel model if it has the 8mb bug.
 
LordCanti said:
I've got an old HP laptop that is going on..heck...seven, maybe eight years. The battery no longer holds a charge, but it serves as a stationary torrent couch web browsing machine.

The battery is usually the first thing to go. I doubt it is the cord that is the problem (if it is, a replacement shouldn't be that hard to come by).

I know its the cord because when I bend the wire in a certain way it works again.
 
brucewaynegretzky said:
I know its the cord because when I bend the wire in a certain way it works again.
grab a new power adapter cord on ebay, just make sure its for your specific model. Gotten a couple chargers before and they were only like 12 bucks each
 
NullPointer said:
Nice :)

I'm starting to feel the same way and I've only had my rig for a few hours. Long enough to get everything plugged in and organized. The only game I have is Left 4 Dead, but its oh so nice to run it on max everything in a window and still get insane fps.

Outputting netflix to the HDTV hasn't been as nice as watching it on the xbox yet. Maybe I still need to fiddle with some stuff. That and get new batteries for the wireless keyboard, mouse and gamepad. Well at least the mouse works at the moment ;P


Holy hell. Thanks for the details. I've got some research to do. :)

So now that I'm in PC-GAF is there some kind of cape I can wear or something?

Another strange thing is that if you have an Nvidia card they removed Nview to only work with Quardo cards. However, and I haven't tried it yet, you can force install the Nview setup file from the Quadro drivers and it supposedly works.

Owning a "Gaming Capable" HTPC is quite an accomplishment. It almost makes the standard PC gamer sort of like a comical sidekick to us real Gaming HTPC Superheroes. j/k ofcourse.
 
Firestorm said:
Thanks. There was a great deal on the Crucial in Canada but I missed it apparently =[

Anyone know the differences between the Asus P8Z68-V LE, P8Z68-V, and P8Z68-V Pro motherboards? And if there's maybe a better bang for buck one than those?
If it's like the P8P67:

LE: Limited overclocking option and no SLI.
Standard: No SLI.
Pro: Has SLI.
 
I have a question about the Asus P8P67 B3 mobo, since it doesn't support SLI but support CrossFire, should I go for an ATI instead of GeForce? Would I run into problems if I went for a 560Ti for example?
 
all Corsair PSUs seem to be out of stock in this country :(

i was looking for the tx 650w V2, but no dice. I can go with the Antec HCG-750W, wich i think is Seasonic as well?

HCG750_Q-1.jpg


would i be loosing much in comparission? all i want is for it be silent and not produce the high piched noise this current thelmartake toughpower is making, lol


edit: oh and id be using it to power an i5 2500k and a single gtx 560ti, on a p8p67 mobo
 
McDouchebag said:
I have a question about the Asus P8P67 B3 mobo, since it doesn't support SLI but support CrossFire, should I go for an ATI instead of GeForce? Would I run into problems if I went for a 560Ti for example?
If you want to run 2 cards, AMD CF is your only option with that MB. There is no issue running 1 Nvidia card.
 
knitoe said:
If you want to run 2 cards, AMD CF is your only option with that MB. There is no issue running 1 Nvidia card.

Great, I was planning to run it with one card and an Intel 2005k.
 
Is it possible to run an AMD card for gaming and an nvidia card for like, another monitor or something?

If so, how would games work out on that?
 
Hmmm, quick query. Is it worth flashing the latest firmware to a vertex 3 ssd prior to windows 7 installation (assuming it arrives with an older firmware)?
 
$563 later and my build is quickly becoming a reality!

i5-2500k
Asrock Z68 Extreme4 1155 ATX mobo
Corsair Enthusiast TX750W PSU
Corsair Carbide 400r case

Now I just need RAM, a hard drive, some kind of awesome monitor, and the dreaded GPU decision.
 
Clydefrog said:
Now I just need RAM, a hard drive, some kind of awesome monitor, and the dreaded GPU decision.

8gb of gskill/corsair/household brand ram
1TB samsung spinpoint HDD + SSD if you want
awesome monitor : dell ultrasharp 2311
gpu : best bang for the buck 6950/560 ti asus direct II cu / msi twin frozr version
next step up : 6970/570
money to burn : 580
 
Does anybody know where I can find the cheapest price on Windows 7 64-bit? I heard about the clean install with an upgrade disc, but I'm not entirely sure how that works. Could someone help me out?
 
So I did a build for a friend about 2 months ago and he's thinking about selling his rig. Knowing its a tough market out there to sell a rig with parts already put together, I was wondering how much he should get back. He invested about $1200+. Here are the specs (they are not exact, this is off of memory)


Intel i5 2500k (stock)
Corsair Graphite black steel 600t
1tb HDD
64gb SSD crucial c300 SATAIII
Blu-ray burner
24x dvd drive
(2x4) 8 gigs memory g-skill 9.9.9.24
wireless card
350watt power supply
a graphics card not really worth mentioning, im sure it wouldnt appeal to anyone here and should be replaced.
windows 7 64bit

Just based off of this, how much you think he should be able to get? And where would be the best place to try to sell something of the sort?
 
I'm posting this from my phone because Windows is installing on my brand new, self built, got it right on the first try PC!!!

Feels good, man.
 
Corky said:
8gb of gskill/corsair/household brand ram
1gb samsung spinpoint HDD + SSD if you want
awesome monitor : dell ultrasharp 2311
gpu : best bang for the buck 6950/560 ti asus direct II cu / msi twin frozr version
next step up : 6970/570
money to burn : 580

thanks for the guidance, corky!
 
Arsenic said:
So I did a build for a friend about 2 months ago and he's thinking about selling his rig. Knowing its a tough market out there to sell a rig with parts already put together, I was wondering how much he should get back. He invested about $1200+. Here are the specs (they are not exact, this is off of memory)


Intel i5 2500k (stock)
Corsair Graphite black steel 600t
1tb HDD
64gb SSD crucial c300 SATAIII
Blu-ray burner
24x dvd drive
(2x4) 8 gigs memory g-skill 9.9.9.24
wireless card
350watt power supply
a graphics card not really worth mentioning, im sure it wouldnt appeal to anyone here and should be replaced.
windows 7 64bit

Just based off of this, how much you think he should be able to get? And where would be the best place to try to sell something of the sort?

I would try for $900 or so, and drop from there. Fleabay/Craigslist is probably your best bet. Craigslist would be ideal, since you wouldn't have to ship it (which would cost quite a bit), but then again, you'd obviously have to be careful about not getting mugged/shot/etc.

Someone could put >$300 into that build and turn it into a great gaming computer, but you'd have to find the guy willing to do it. You certainly couldn't bill it as a gaming rig right now.
 
Question: how many SDD and HDDs can I use with SATA3 6GB/s on this motherboard?

Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD7, Socket-1155 ATX, Z68, DDR3, 4xPCIe(2.0)x16, CFX&SLI, SATA 6Gb/s, FW,USB 3.0, Dolby,24 phase

I was considering getting a SDD for the OS and two extra HDDs for general storage - all of them with SATA3 6GB/s

But I am not sure if I am limited to only two SATA3 6GB/s drives with the third one just running at the slower SATA2 3GB/s ?

Thanks in advance for any replies.
 
DennisK4 said:
Question: how many SDD and HDDs can I use with SATA3 6GB/s on this motherboard?

Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD7, Socket-1155 ATX, Z68, DDR3, 4xPCIe(2.0)x16, CFX&SLI, SATA 6Gb/s, FW,USB 3.0, Dolby,24 phase

I was considering getting a SDD for the OS and two extra HDDs for general storage - all of them with SATA3 6GB/s

But I am not sure if I am limited to only two SATA3 6GB/s drives with the third one just running at the slower SATA2 3GB/s ?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

From the product page on Gigabyte's website:

Chipset:
2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (SATA3_0, SATA3_1) supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
4 x SATA 3Gb/s connectors (SATA2_2~SATA2_5) supporting up to 4 SATA 3Gb/s devices
Support for SATA RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10
* When a RAID set is built across the SATA 6Gb/s and SATA 3Gb/s channels, the system performance of the RAID set may vary depending on the devices being connected.
2 x Marvell 88SE9128 chips:
2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (GSATA3_6, GSATA3_7) supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
2 x eSATA 6Gb/s connectors (eSATA/USB Combo) on the back panel supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
Support for SATA RAID 0 and RAID 1

Four 6Gb, in other words. Check your manual to make sure you select the correct ones.
 
LordCanti said:
From the product page on Gigabyte's website:

Chipset:
2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (SATA3_0, SATA3_1) supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
4 x SATA 3Gb/s connectors (SATA2_2~SATA2_5) supporting up to 4 SATA 3Gb/s devices
Support for SATA RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10
* When a RAID set is built across the SATA 6Gb/s and SATA 3Gb/s channels, the system performance of the RAID set may vary depending on the devices being connected.
2 x Marvell 88SE9128 chips:
2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (GSATA3_6, GSATA3_7) supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
2 x eSATA 6Gb/s connectors (eSATA/USB Combo) on the back panel supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
Support for SATA RAID 0 and RAID 1

Four 6Gb, in other words. Check your manual to make sure you select the correct ones.
Are you sure? The highlighted sorta reads to me like only two SATA 6GB/s
 
LordCanti said:
I would try for $900 or so, and drop from there. Fleabay/Craigslist is probably your best bet. Craigslist would be ideal, since you wouldn't have to ship it (which would cost quite a bit), but then again, you'd obviously have to be careful about not getting mugged/shot/etc.

Someone could put >$300 into that build and turn it into a great gaming computer, but you'd have to find the guy willing to do it. You certainly couldn't bill it as a gaming rig right now.
Yeah I figured so. When i built the computer for him it sole purpose was to produce music, not gaming. So it's not as appealing as it could have been. Its a nice rig, but definitely short for gaming purposes. Oh well.

I'm also thinking of selling each part individually as I already got interest from poster above Gvaz. Hopefully the kid still has all the boxes.
 
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