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[Leonidas]

2017 Thread

• AMD Computex 2019: May 27
• Nvidia Computex 2019: May 27
• Intel Computex 2019: May 28
• NVidia RTX: Real-time Ray Tracing - the holy grail in graphics arrives on PC.
• VirtualLink new VR standard

Anandtech's 'Bench' CPU and GPU Benchmarks - Helpful for getting a general idea of performance or comparing hardware.

General PC Builds for AMD and Intel starting at under $500. Builds will be updated as new CPUs/GPUs come out, or when prices of components noticeably change.
8/11 Update: RTX Super, RX 5700, Zen2, prices updated.

Intel

AMD

Generalizations on CPUs from Intel vs. AMD and GPUs from nVidia vs AMD(Research to find out more).
Intel: great for high refresh gaming, better single core performance, higher clock-speeds when overclocked.
AMD: higher multi-core performance for the price, great for rendering/streaming, good for gaming.

nVidia: currently has the most powerful GPUs, great performance per dollar.
AMD: great value in the mid-range where the prices can be a bit cheaper, but the GPUs are power hungry for their performance.

Personal choice so check out what else is available but here are some good fairly recent options.

Top: Fractal Design Define C, Bitfenix Pandora, Phanteks Enthoo Evolve

Bottom: Bitfenix Portal, Cooler Master Master Case Pro 3, SilverStone ML08

coming soon

• Panel Technologies (IPS vs. VA vs. TN)
• AA (Anti-Aliasing) and how it affects IQ (image quality)
• DisplayHDR Spec certified by VESA
• FreeSync vs G-Sync

PC Monitors also double as great console gaming displays.

• make sure it has HDMI(HDMI 2.0 or higher with HDCP2.2 for 4K), some older monitors are not supported.
• Budget 1080p monitors are good for all current and previous gen consoles while Xbox One X can take advantage of 1440p.
• Xbox One X will soon have support for 120 Hz PC Monitors. Xbox One S/X supports FreeSync 2.
• 4K Monitors can work well for PS4 Pro and Xbox One X, but most monitors currently lack true HDR.

For budget PC gaming any standard 1080p or 1440p monitor will do but here are some good fairly recent variable refresh options.
There are many other options out there for variable refresh as well so check around.

Top: ASUS ROG PG348Q($1300, 3440x1440, 100Hz, G-Sync), Acer XR341CK($700, 3440x1440, 75Hz, Freesync)

Bottom: Acer XB321HK (32", 4K, $900, 60Hz G-Sync), LG 32UD59 (32", 4K, $500, 60Hz FreeSync)

The Tech Report
PC Perspective
AnandTech
TechPowerUp
Silent PC Review
HardOCP
Hardware Canucks
Jonnyguru
HardwareSecrets

MSI Afterburner (aka RivaTuner) allows you to manage GPU overclocking, fan speed/profiles and chart many aspects of your GPU.
CPU-Z - gathers information on your Motherboard, BIOS, CPU, FSB, VCORE voltage and memory timings.
GPU-Z gathers information (Speed, architecture, temps) on your video card and GPU.
Real Temp allows you to monitor the temperature of your CPU core(s).
HWInfo allows you to monitor fan speed, temperature, voltage, etc.
CrystalDiskMark Tests read and write speed of your hard drives.
OCCT allows you to stress test your CPU and GPU, along with GPU memory.
Prime95 allows you to stress test your CPU and RAM for stability.
FURMark allows you to stress test your video card.
Memtest86+ allows you to run a full memory scan to deal with the blue screen of death and system errors.

 

[Leonidas]

reserved.

 

[Phatosaurus]

In these times of inflated RAM and fluctuating GPU prices. I'd really recommend keeping an eye on https://www.hotukdeals.com/tag/computers if you're in the market for a new PC build, or just an upgrade.

GTX 1080's can now be had for less than £500 again, which is fantastic considering the prices over the past year.

 

[DGrayson]

Awesome, thank you Leonidas !

 

[Davernos]

Thanks ! My 2500K needs a rest

 

[AquaticSquirrel]

Amazing thread, fantastic OP. I probably won't be buying a new PC until maybe next year but I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread and gathering all the necessary info.

Again brilliant and informative thread.

 

[fourfourtwo]

Hello, I was wondering whether anyone would be able to recommend me a mouse? I have a 4 year old Razer Deathadder mouse which is no longer registering clicks, and also the LED never turns off and is blindingly bright at night when I'm trying to sleep - I've had to cover it with the mousepad for a few years now. I play a little bit of CSGO (the Razer was great for this, I think it had an excellent sensor and all), a fair bit of Civilisation/Crusader Kings, and my budget is around £80/$100. I'm also an aerospace engineer, so something with some extra buttons that I can bind macros to would be very useful.

I was browsing the 2017 PC guide and came across the Steelseries Sensei Raw, which seems to be available for around £30 refurbished and doesn't have a really "gamer-y" look to it. Would it still be a good purchase a year later, or have there been some new, better releases?

 

[Dr.brain64]

For accessories - suggestions for anyone tired of logitech:

Microsoft precision mouse.


Microsoft keyboard w/ touch id. Sexiest keyboard yet imo.


Both look so good with my setup.

 

[A.Romero]

Great thread!

I built a new system a couple of months ago with a 8600k (max OC 4.8,kind of disappointing) and a 1070ti.

I'm mostly playing at 1080P and works pretty well with basically any game that I've thrown at it with the exception of Assassin's Creed origins. The intro of the game ran very well but as soon as I got to Alexandria the frame rate went to hell. Apparently is due to poor optimization but still, I'm disappointed.

Would transfer the game to an SSD or adding more RAM help? I only installed 8 GB because it's so expensive...

 

[Redneckerz]

Great thread!

I built a new system a couple of months ago with a 8600k (max OC 4.8,kind of disappointing) and a 1070ti.

I'm mostly playing at 1080P and works pretty well with basically any game that I've thrown at it with the exception of Assassin's Creed origins. The intro of the game ran very well but as soon as I got to Alexandria the frame rate went to hell. Apparently is due to poor optimization but still, I'm disappointed.

Would transfer the game to an SSD or adding more RAM help? I only installed 8 GB because it's so expensive...

SSD always helps on loading stuff in, as for RAM, more helps, but you should be good. AC Origins is just a very heavy game on most setups, and even on GPU's that still get passed down for decent performance are absolutely killed with AC Origins. It clearly looks with one eye to newer systems and GPU's despite being DX11 compatible.

 

[A.Romero]

SSD always helps on loading stuff in, as for RAM, more helps, but you should be good. AC Origins is just a very heavy game on most setups, and even on GPU's that still get passed down for decent performance are absolutely killed with AC Origins. It clearly looks with one eye to newer systems and GPU's despite being DX11 compatible.

I have the sensation that the issue is CPU related. When running the benchmark you can see some details on the current load. It starts well, sometimes even hitting 70 - 80 fps with 90%+ of GPU usage but as soon as you turn a corner and NPC start appearing, the CPU goes to 100% (yes, all cores maxed) and the GPU usage goes down to 75 - 85%.

I tried upping the resolution a bit and I got better results. I get sub 55fps most of the time but that corner doesn't kill performance as much. It makes me think that the GPU load increasing reduces the calls to the CPU as it is taking longer to draw the frames. With this situation the GPU load increases and the CPU decreases, even after turning that corner and the NPC's appear. Framerate is not steady at 60 but at least doesn't stutter than much.

I'm installing an M.2 drive today and will transfer the game to that device. See if it helps. Thanks!

 

[Kadayi]

GJ OP. Not sure if Steam mover is still necessary now as you can move installs in Steam now if you've previously set up a folder

 

[A.Romero]

GJ OP. Not sure if Steam mover is still necessary now as you can move installs in Steam now if you've previously set up a folder

You mean you can just copy/paste an installation folder?

 

[AgentP]

Where is the OEM Windows 10 price? That was like $100 right? Unless you are all gaming on Linux which is hard to believe.

 

[Themacabre]

I've been looking for monitors. Two in fact. I will be playing games of course, but work from home on occasion (I'm in IT) and will be using them for that as well. Around $200 each would probably be about right. I've been struggling though, mainly because I'm reading reviews and nothing can be perfect, so the people most likely to comment are the ones where something was wrong. 24" is where I'm looking, needs to be mountable as well.

Any recommendations?

 

[cartman414]

Doing a stopgap build I intend to top up in a couple years. What do you think so far?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YZ6tCb

 

[Kadayi]

You mean you can just copy/paste an installation folder?

No. Within the application. Goto the properties of a game and find move folder.

 

[DGrayson]

I've been looking for monitors. Two in fact. I will be playing games of course, but work from home on occasion (I'm in IT) and will be using them for that as well. Around $200 each would probably be about right. I've been struggling though, mainly because I'm reading reviews and nothing can be perfect, so the people most likely to comment are the ones where something was wrong. 24" is where I'm looking, needs to be mountable as well.

Any recommendations?

What about this one? 144 hz and mountable. 1 ms response time.


https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16824009642

 

[Redneckerz]

I have the sensation that the issue is CPU related. When running the benchmark you can see some details on the current load. It starts well, sometimes even hitting 70 - 80 fps with 90%+ of GPU usage but as soon as you turn a corner and NPC start appearing, the CPU goes to 100% (yes, all cores maxed) and the GPU usage goes down to 75 - 85%.

I tried upping the resolution a bit and I got better results. I get sub 55fps most of the time but that corner doesn't kill performance as much. It makes me think that the GPU load increasing reduces the calls to the CPU as it is taking longer to draw the frames. With this situation the GPU load increases and the CPU decreases, even after turning that corner and the NPC's appear. Framerate is not steady at 60 but at least doesn't stutter than much.

I'm installing an M.2 drive today and will transfer the game to that device. See if it helps. Thanks!

It could very well be a bug in the game itself if it only occurs at that exact spot. Would like to hear about your results!

 

[DGrayson]

Doing a stopgap build I intend to top up in a couple years. What do you think so far?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YZ6tCb

Seems fine.

I always buy low profile RAM as with big air style CPU coolers it just seems easier to work with, but thats just me.

 

[cartman414]

Seems fine.

I always buy low profile RAM as with big air style CPU coolers it just seems easier to work with, but thats just me.

Cool, thanks. Good point btw. Anything to improve airflow.

 

[DGrayson]

Cool, thanks. Good point btw. Anything to improve airflow.

Sorry one more thing. You are buying a non K CPU (so not overclockable) but you are buying a Z chipset MOBO. I know you mentioned it is supposed to be a stopgap. Were you planning on changing the CPU in the future? Usually now when CPUs change then you have to change MOBOs too.

Anyways my point being you dont need a Z series MOBO unless you are planning on overclocking. Unless sometimes Z series have better things like Audio processors etc.

Generally for a non K series CPU you will be fine with a H series MOBO and save a bit of money.

Also Z offers SLI support not sure if you are planning on adding a GPU or not.

 

[cartman414]

Sorry one more thing. You are buying a non K CPU (so not overclockable) but you are buying a Z chipset MOBO. I know you mentioned it is supposed to be a stopgap. Were you planning on changing the CPU in the future? Usually now when CPUs change then you have to change MOBOs too.

Anyways my point being you dont need a Z series MOBO unless you are planning on overclocking. Unless sometimes Z series have better things like Audio processors etc.

Generially for a non K series CPU you will be fine with a H series MOBO and save a bit of money.

Also Z offers SLI support not sure if you are planning on adding a GPU or not.

Yeah, I did have an eye out for H370 boards. Maybe I didn't look hard enough but I didn't spot any ones for much lower that really cut the mustard.

ETA: Fixed. Realized I hadn't selected onboard wi-fi as a filter.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fKKrGG

 

[DGrayson]

Yeah, I did have an eye out for H370 boards. Maybe I didn't look hard enough but I didn't spot any ones for much lower that really cut the mustard.

ETA: Fixed. Realized I hadn't selected onboard wi-fi as a filter.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fKKrGG

Whats the reason for going full ATX rather than mATX or ITX?

 

[cartman414]

Whats the reason for going full ATX rather than mATX or ITX?

No mATX H370 boards with built in wi-fi showed up. Though I might consider a decent separate adapter for cheap.

 

[DGrayson]

No mATX H370 boards with built in wi-fi showed up. Though I might consider a decent separate adapter for cheap.

strange you are right, i just checked newegg and it seems that they only have h370 board with wifi for ITX. Weird they dont have mATX. Personally I use powerline adaptors for all my PCs (I have 3 PCs in my apartment which all get updated every couple of years)

But then they have wifi for ITX, and if you dont plan on using any other cards besides a GPU you dont really need anything besides an ITX.

 

[cartman414]

strange you are right, i just checked newegg and it seems that they only have h370 board with wifi for ITX. Weird they dont have mATX. Personally I use powerline adaptors for all my PCs (I have 3 PCs in my apartment which all get updated every couple of years)

But then they have wifi for ITX, and if you dont plan on using any other cards besides a GPU you dont really need anything besides an ITX.

Only a couple of them are Asus (and at that point marching into Z370 price territory). Are any of the others good enough at least? And could I get away with an ITX in an ATX case if that's what I want to hang on to, or should I just start out with an ITX case for the time being?

 

[DGrayson]

Only a couple of them are Asus (and at that point marching into Z370 price territory). Are any of the others good enough at least? And could I get away with an ITX in an ATX case if that's what I want to hang on to, or should I just start out with an ITX case for the time being?

I think most atx cases also can use an itx as well. Check the case manual to be sure.

If you really dont care about size then atx is easier to build. Personally I'm in a smaller apartment so I got rid of my atx tower and now have 2 itx builds and a matx home server (with 8 3.5 inch drives).

 

[RavageX]

Hey guys, couple questions.

This is most of what I'm working with:

AMD RYZEN 5 1500X 4-Core 3.5 GHz (3.7 GHz Turbo)

ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory X470 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300)

Questions are, should I go with water cooling, and if so do you have recommendations? Not going to do any overclocking.

What size power supply should I use? Have a 650 but think I need to go new, its pretty old. I plan to run several hard drives and the graphics card will either be a 1050ti or Raedon RX 550, I have both of those but think the 1050ti has a problem.

 

[DGrayson]

Hey guys, couple questions.

This is most of what I'm working with:

AMD RYZEN 5 1500X 4-Core 3.5 GHz (3.7 GHz Turbo)

ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory X470 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300)

Questions are, should I go with water cooling, and if so do you have recommendations? Not going to do any overclocking.

What size power supply should I use? Have a 650 but think I need to go new, its pretty old. I plan to run several hard drives and the graphics card will either be a 1050ti or Raedon RX 550, I have both of those but think the 1050ti has a problem.

I dont really know much about water cooling so I would leave that to someone else to answer. But if you dont plan on overclocking I dont see why water cooling would be that helpful.

As for the power supply, a 650w is way enough to power your cpu a couple drives and a 1050ti. I'm running a 1050ti, 2 drives and a 65w i7 off of a 450w. However, if your PSU is old you may want to consider upgrading as a bad PSU can actually permanently damage your components.

Here is a couple power supply wattage calculators which should give you a rough estimate


http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

http://powersupplycalculator.net

 

[Paracelsus]

How stupid would be to pay 300€ (€) for a 6gb gtx 1060 in August of 2018? It's already a dumb investment as I barely game anymore, I wonder if the new nvidia gpus are gonna kill the old series and make it crazy cheap. Doesn't sound like it, many fans are livid since it sounds they're gonna cater to miners again.

 

[llien]

Questions are, should I go with water cooling, and if so do you have recommendations? Not going to do any overclocking.

Water cooling is clearly an overkill for that CPU.
Also, it could be wiser to opt for Ryzen APU, e.g. 2400g (CPU + GPU combo)
It is around 1030, but can still play quite a number of games ok-ish, and is also much cheaper than 1500+dedicated GPU.

 

[A.Romero]

It could very well be a bug in the game itself if it only occurs at that exact spot. Would like to hear about your results!

Well, performance didn't get any better after putting the game on an SSD. I'm pretty sure that it's just the game and the way it's done. Current CPUs don't seem to be enough for all that is trying to do (or maybe shoddy coding).

Hey guys, couple questions.

This is most of what I'm working with:

AMD RYZEN 5 1500X 4-Core 3.5 GHz (3.7 GHz Turbo)

ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory X470 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300)

Questions are, should I go with water cooling, and if so do you have recommendations? Not going to do any overclocking.

What size power supply should I use? Have a 650 but think I need to go new, its pretty old. I plan to run several hard drives and the graphics card will either be a 1050ti or Raedon RX 550, I have both of those but think the 1050ti has a problem.

If you can afford it, try to go for faster memory. Apparently it makes a big difference with Rayzen.

 

[DGrayson]

How stupid would be to pay 300€ (€) for a 6gb gtx 1060 in August of 2018? It's already a dumb investment as I barely game anymore, I wonder if the new nvidia gpus are gonna kill the old series and make it crazy cheap. Doesn't sound like it, many fans are livid since it sounds they're gonna cater to miners again.

well if you are planning on buying in August maybe the new NVIDIA GPUs will be out then.

I found that the prices of the old GPUs dont immediately drop when the new ones come out, usually it takes a couple months for prices to come down.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

I dont really know much about water cooling so I would leave that to someone else to answer. But if you dont plan on overclocking I dont see why water cooling would be that helpful.

As for the power supply, a 650w is way enough to power your cpu a couple drives and a 1050ti. I'm running a 1050ti, 2 drives and a 65w i7 off of a 450w. However, if your PSU is old you may want to consider upgrading as a bad PSU can actually permanently damage your components.

Here is a couple power supply wattage calculators which should give you a rough estimate


http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

http://powersupplycalculator.net

I'm running a GTX 1080, I7 8700 and two drives off a 450w PSU. That was the PSU that was recommended to me from the specialist that put it together. I've been a little concerned about it, not that I've had any actual issues. Yet.

 

[Leonidas]

Hey guys, couple questions.

This is most of what I'm working with:

AMD RYZEN 5 1500X 4-Core 3.5 GHz (3.7 GHz Turbo)

Questions are, should I go with water cooling, and if so do you have recommendations? Not going to do any overclocking.

If you're not overclocking then there is no need to upgrade from the stock cooler on the 1500X. Have you considered the R5 2600? That also comes with a good stock cooler and has 2 more cores with higher boost clock for a small increase in price. If you're not overclocking that also seems like it could be a great option.

 

[DGrayson]

If you're not overclocking then there is no need to upgrade from the stock cooler on the 1500X. Have you considered the R5 2600? That also comes with a good stock cooler and has 2 more cores with higher boost clock for a small increase in price. If you're not overclocking that also seems like it could be a great option.

While I agree in principle a stock cooler is totally fine for cooling without overclocking, one thing to consider is noise. I dont know about AMD but I had a stock intel cooler on a 3770K and never again will I go stock cooler after that. That thing was loud as hell.

 

[Kudo]

I think cooler is one of those things that's a pain in the ass to swap later on, so you should get a proper cooler the first time. And even coolers that are 20$ perform LOT better than the stock ones so there's really no reason why not to, unless you're on tight budget.

 

[manfestival]

question folks, my current screen for my laptop is 75hz, I was surprised by the fact that I could notice a difference(albeit small) when compared to 60 hz. Is it worth investing into a 144hz monitor? I am running a 1070. I see some laptops that have 144hz on 1060s but I feel like that is just wasted where it would make much more sense on a 1070 or higher

 

[DGrayson]

question folks, my current screen for my laptop is 75hz, I was surprised by the fact that I could notice a difference(albeit small) when compared to 60 hz. Is it worth investing into a 144hz monitor? I am running a 1070. I see some laptops that have 144hz on 1060s but I feel like that is just wasted where it would make much more sense on a 1070 or higher

144 hz is butter. I love playing FPS on my 144 hz monitor. I dont even have G-Sync/FreeSync. My TV also does 120hz @ 1080p. I think it makes a big difference. If you can tell the difference between 60 and 75 I would highly recommend going 144 hz. Even moving the mouse you can feel a difference.

 

[Leonidas]

While I agree in principle a stock cooler is totally fine for cooling without overclocking, one thing to consider is noise. I dont know about AMD but I had a stock intel cooler on a 3770K and never again will I go stock cooler after that. That thing was loud as hell.

AMD stock coolers are different. Here's a quote from TechSpot's review of the 2600 talking about the stock Wraith Stealth cooler which is included in the box.

Moving on to gaming and we found under heavy load with utilization hovering between 80 - 90% temperatures peaked at 63C degrees and during more typical loads dropped down to 59C degrees. So for stock performance the little Wraith Stealth does a good job, it’s also very quiet.

 

[DGrayson]

AMD stock coolers are different. Here's a quote from TechSpot's review of the 2600 talking about the stock Wraith Stealth cooler which is included in the box.

Ya that makes more sense. Glad we have some AMD guys on this thread because I need some help there. I have nothing against AMD but I've only been building PCs for the last 5 years and I haven't gone with AMD yet so I am not as familiar with their stuff.

 

[RavageX]

Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it. I should have added that I am on a strict, strict budget, lol. I did get a different PSU, however I was limited in options, the one I ended up with is overkill. It wasn't expensive but the other choice I had was a Cosair(?) that had less than promising reviews. Have an EVGA supply.

 

[manfestival]

144 hz is butter. I love playing FPS on my 144 hz monitor. I dont even have G-Sync/FreeSync. My TV also does 120hz @ 1080p. I think it makes a big difference. If you can tell the difference between 60 and 75 I would highly recommend going 144 hz. Even moving the mouse you can feel a difference.

Is there any taxation on my GPU from this? All of my gaming life I stayed away from the upper echelon on gaming for financial purposes. I recently found financial success and I am slowly opening these doors but cautiously(I needed a desktop replacement since I am remote and need a powerful computer for gaming and work on the go). I imagine a Gsync 144hz screen would be ideal? I do not care for 4k gaming at this time. Also is benq the brand to search for when it comes to these things?

 

[DGrayson]

Is there any taxation on my GPU from this? All of my gaming life I stayed away from the upper echelon on gaming for financial purposes. I recently found financial success and I am slowly opening these doors but cautiously(I needed a desktop replacement since I am remote and need a powerful computer for gaming and work on the go). I imagine a Gsync 144hz screen would be ideal? I do not care for 4k gaming at this time. Also is benq the brand to search for when it comes to these things?

I would like some feedback from other users but I think with a GTX 1070 you would be fine to run most games on high/ultra at 1080P and 144 hz.

What CPU do you have?

Yes FPS will additionally tax your GPU but if you are fine with 1080P (my gaming monitor is 1080P and I dont plan on changing for a while cause it looks great and I am cheap), then your 1070 should last a while still IMO.

 

[Jigsaah]

Really intrigued with the enthusiasm on tap in this thread. It makes me feel like I'm missing out.

I sorely want to game on a PC again, if for no other reason than to also have the added benefits of video and music editing. The cost seems like a lot given that I don't have anything, not even a monitor or peripherals. I would literally be starting from scratch. I don't want to go too cheap but I'm wondering if $1000 to $1200 would fit those needs in today's market.

 

[DGrayson]

Really intrigued with the enthusiasm on tap in this thread. It makes me feel like I'm missing out.

I sorely want to game on a PC again, if for no other reason than to also have the added benefits of video and music editing. The cost seems like a lot given that I don't have anything, not even a monitor or peripherals. I would literally be starting from scratch. I don't want to go too cheap but I'm wondering if $1000 to $1200 would fit those needs in today's market.

Awesome to hear and happy to have you on board.

I am sure one of us can help you out. First question for gaming and I assume for video editing as well. Do you need 4K or is 1080p ok for you? That will dictate monitor cost as well as affect the GPU level we recommend.

 

[manfestival]

I would like some feedback from other users but I think with a GTX 1070 you would be fine to run most games on high/ultra at 1080P and 144 hz.

What CPU do you have?

Yes FPS will additionally tax your GPU but if you are fine with 1080P (my gaming monitor is 1080P and I dont plan on changing for a while cause it looks great and I am cheap), then your 1070 should last a while still IMO.

i7 7700HQ. I know I could have gone for a slightly faster CPU with the i7 8550u but my laptop only cost 1300 in february where the GPU hike was still really out there and comparable laptops were running for 1800+.

Only thing my laptop struggled with was a fully maxed out Kingdom Come Deliverance. However, I just assume that the game is poorly optimized simply because of how poor my computer ran it when it runs BF1 and Battlefront 2 flawlessly maxed out at 1080p.

 

[Jigsaah]

Awesome to hear and happy to have you on board.

I am sure one of us can help you out. First question for gaming and I assume for video editing as well. Do you need 4K or is 1080p ok for you? That will dictate monitor cost as well as affect the GPU level we recommend.

So I game on Xbox One X and PS4 vanilla right now. I think I want my PC set up to be a frame rate beast since that's what seems to be lacking on current gen consoles. If I can get that with 4k that would be awesome but my budget doesn't seem to allow that given the landscape/pricing of components right now. I'll list my criteria in order:

1. Want to be able to video edit. This includes youtube and streaming.
2. Want to be able to hit at least solid 60fps on most games at high settings (ultra is not a requirement)
3. Resolution up to 1440p would be awesome but ultimately, tertiary, as this list suggests.
4. I want something easy to upgrade. I don't want to have to rebuild my entire PC when it comes time to upgrade, due to compatibility issues.
5. SSD preferred. I'll buy external HDs for non-crucial programs and such.

 

[A.Romero]

So I game on Xbox One X and PS4 vanilla right now. I think I want my PC set up to be a frame rate beast since that's what seems to be lacking on current gen consoles. If I can get that with 4k that would be awesome but my budget doesn't seem to allow that given the landscape/pricing of components right now. I'll list my criteria in order:

1. Want to be able to video edit. This includes youtube and streaming.
2. Want to be able to hit at least solid 60fps on most games at high settings (ultra is not a requirement)
3. Resolution up to 1440p would be awesome but ultimately, tertiary, as this list suggests.
4. I want something easy to upgrade. I don't want to have to rebuild my entire PC when it comes time to upgrade, due to compatibility issues.
5. SSD preferred. I'll buy external HDs for non-crucial programs and such.

1. RAM and multicore is where is at for video editing. Ryzen CPU with as much memory as you can afford. Ryzen 7 tends to do better with encoding video as well. Memory speed is very important for Ryzen so it does make a difference. IMO 2800 Mhz is the slowest you should go.
2. AMD lag behind a bit in gaming (but not that much) so a Ryzen 7 will get you to 60FPS. Given that ultra is not a requirement, you can probably do well with a 1070 or even a 1060
3. For higher than 1080 at steady 60 FPS I'd go with 1070 or 1070ti
4. GPUs have no problem with compatibility however there is no guarantee either Intel or AMD won't change the type of socket for the next generation. AMD tends to do better in this aspect and they are still using AM4 but nothing is a given.
5. I'd recommend you to go for a SATA SSD 500GB and a 1tb HDD at least. No reason to go external as performance would be slower unless you are using eSATA. Video editing takes a lot of space.

I'm not very familiar with AMD GPU's so I can't do a particular recommendation if you want to keep it all AMD.