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[midnightguy]

Kingdom of Heaven was worth seeing and I don't feel it was a waste of money or time - I felt it was well edited. impressive and entertaining. a better movie than Revenge of the Sith, which I felt was pretty weak in moments were it should have been strong. Kingdom of Heaven was strong all the way through the film. I highly recommend seeing it.

 

[Mejilan]

This movie was more uncomfortable to sit through than a fresh, wet, shit-stain in my pants.

 

[midnightguy]

This movie was more uncomfortable to sit through than a fresh, wet, shit-stain in my pants.

did you find it too violent? I thought it kicked ass.

 

[Ford Prefect]

Looks like one more generic sword movie to me.

 

[temp]

This thing got rated way too harshly; it's a solid 7.5/10. The director's cut should bump it up a point, too.

 

[midnightguy]

I'll want the DVD, but I'll want the Blu-Ray release eveb more

 

[quest]

Kingdom of Heaven was worth seeing and I don't feel it was a waste of money or time - I felt it was well edited. impressive and entertaining. a better movie than Revenge of the Sith, which I felt was pretty weak in moments were it should have been strong. Kingdom of Heaven was strong all the way through the film. I highly recommend seeing it.

I want what you are on because it must be some good stuff to enjoy KoH so much. The movie was long boring and drawn out.

 

[Mejilan]

did you find it too violent? I thought it kicked ass.

Violent? I was pissed at all the robbed opportunities for decent fight scenes.

I posted in an older thread everything I found wrong with the movie, but a quick summary:
- Atrocious and robotic acting, except for some of the major Arab roles
- Main character I couldn't like for a second. He killed a freakin' priest! Granted, I'm Jewish and the priest was an ass, but he still murdered him in cold-blood for no decent reason. Really hard to get attached to this kind of main character.
- Oh, so he goes from ignorant, murderous blacksmith to uber politician and tactician over the span of what... months? Right.

I had quite a few more reasons, but mercifully, memory of this movie has been leached away. It was only slightly better than the absolute abomination that was Troy, imho. And what makes it worse, being such a Gladiator whore, I was predisposed to loving this movie.

 

[midnightguy]

I want what you are on because it must be some good stuff to enjoy KoH so much. The movie was long boring and drawn out.

meh. I don't agree. it was a damn good movie. better than Gladiator even. IMO better than all the other fucktard movies out this summer, so far, with Revenge of the Sith being the only competition

The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants? Madagascar? Cinderella Man? Monster-In-Law?

give me a fucking break :lol

 

[Mejilan]

Better than Gladiator? ARE YOU FUCKING CRACKED? I'm all for allowing everyone his or her own opinion, but you are flat out WRONG, baby!

Seriously. This was my theater responding to some disembodied, all important query as Kingom of Horshit ended:

[BOOM]ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?[/BOOM]

Us: FUCK NO!!!

*true story*

 

[temp]

I've seen Gladiator way too many damn times. By this point I'd rather watch Kingdom of Heaven.

 

[Phoenix]

Yeah I enjoyed it as well. Actually encouraged me to go look up the more 'complete' history of the crusades than that which I was taught in school.

 

[ManaByte]

Yeah I enjoyed it as well. Actually encouraged me to go look up the more 'complete' history of the crusades than that which I was taught in school.

Which you will then find out how slanted KOH's version of the Crusades really was. The whole movie was a big apology/love letter to the Muslim groups who bitched about Black Hawk Down.

 

[Zaptruder]

Violent? I was pissed at all the robbed opportunities for decent fight scenes.

I posted in an older thread everything I found wrong with the movie, but a quick summary:
- Atrocious and robotic acting, except for some of the major Arab roles
- Main character I couldn't like for a second. He killed a freakin' priest! Granted, I'm Jewish and the priest was an ass, but he still murdered him in cold-blood for no decent reason. Really hard to get attached to this kind of main character.
- Oh, so he goes from ignorant, murderous blacksmith to uber politician and tactician over the span of what... months? Right.

I had quite a few more reasons, but mercifully, memory of this movie has been leached away. It was only slightly better than the absolute abomination that was Troy, imho. And what makes it worse, being such a Gladiator whore, I was predisposed to loving this movie.

He murdered the priest for beheading the corpse of his dead wife and then taking the gold cross she wore. Moreover, at the time they believed that any man that took up arms for god would be guaranteed entrance into the kingdom of heaven.

He was the son of a knight; it would seem that he had some training before, which is why his father solicited him to go to war in the first place.

Of course, why the film doesn't more explicitly and clearly shows that element is part of the reason of its failings as a movie.

But I'd sooner watch KoH 3 times than watch RotS once more.

 

[happyfunball]

I really liked the movie although it was a bit..um..disjointed and the flow from blacksmith to super knight was a bit too short and fast. I am a sucker for most big epic movies. Hell, I thought Troy was totally badass. I'm sure many agree too but the dime-a-dozen movie critic mentality takes over for some. I found both to be entertaining and stimulated my interest in the topics which is good enough for me.

 

[Mejilan]

He murdered the priest for beheading the corpse of his dead wife and then taking the gold cross she wore. Moreover, at the time they believed that any man that took up arms for god would be guaranteed entrance into the kingdom of heaven.

He was the son of a knight; it would seem that he had some training before, which is why his father solicited him to go to war in the first place.

Of course, why the film doesn't more explicitly and clearly shows that element is part of the reason of its failings as a movie.

But I'd sooner watch KoH 3 times than watch RotS once more.

Well, if she didn't wanna get beheaded, she shouldn't have ended herself. As I said, the priest was an asshole, but he didn't deserve steel in his got and then immolation in the degenerate's forge. Son of a knight? He didn't know who, or presumably WHAT his father was. From what I got out of the movie, he was raised as a commoner, a villager, not the son of a knight.

 

[happyfunball]

Which you will then find out how slanted KOH's version of the Crusades really was. The whole movie was a big apology/love letter to the Muslim groups who bitched about Black Hawk Down.

Slanted? How so? It was certainly dramatized to a great extent but I don't think it demonized either side much more than the other. Plus, how else do you describe the Crusaders than as invaders in somebody else's land. I think most people would have a tendency to side with the people who were originally on the land and not the invaders.

 

[Mejilan]

Actually, Saladin was generally viewed in a positive light by both sides, throughout history. So it was nice that this movie made him quite likeable.

 

[whytemyke]

I wanted to see this movie but, along with other seemingly decent movies this summer, will probably reserved to DVD.

Though, the fact it's being compared to Troy seems a bit disheartening. I thought the biggest problem with Troy, aside from my whole expectation of it being similar to Braveheart, etc, was that it had no real soul. It wasn't poetic at all, and most of the 'GREAT' movies have a sense of poetry or art about them. Small quibble I guess in the long run, though.

I'll see it eventually though.

 

[ManaByte]

Slanted? How so? It was certainly dramatized to a great extent but I don't think it demonized either side much more than the other. Plus, how else do you describe the Crusaders than as invaders in somebody else's land. I think most people would have a tendency to side with the people who were originally on the land and not the invaders.

Because it depicted the Knights Templar as bloodthirsty warmongers, when in reality their primary responsibility was to protect the caravans of pilgrims as they journeyed to Jerusalem. If they wanted to demonize anyone they could've just shown the truth of how it was the Pope who sent the Crusaders into the Holy Land as opposed to twisting the Knights Templar into villains.

Actually, Saladin was generally viewed in a positive light by both sides, throughout history. So it was nice that this movie made him quite likeable.

Saladin was one of the few things the movie got right.

 

[happyfunball]

Looking for "poetry" in a summer movie epic is a bit odd but if you are curious, KOH is more "fancyboy artsy" than Troy.

 

[Mejilan]

Saladin was one of the few things the movie got right.

Except for his language skills. Argh. I lived in Israel for 4 years, and spent quite a bit of time with both Israelis and Arab Israelis, speaking English (before I learned Hebrew.) And yet, I don't think I heard unnecessary English-mangling as bad as in KoH.

 

[Shompola]

They didnt get his sword righ though. I mean double edge thing sword. And he is pretty much hated by shia muslims considering what he did to them.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

Good movie. Ed Norton rocked as the king of Jerusalem.

Though for my money, the first and last Crusades are the best. The first is chock full of mad cannibals hallucinating, and the last one is the Christians being shown the god damn door by Baybars and the Mameluke. Good shit. I'd love to see Koei make a game of it for the PS3.

 

[TheDuce22]

This movie was garbage. The pacing was way off, Orlando Bloom is a horrible actor, the message could not be any less subtle (they just kinda cram it down your throat for 2 hours), the action and battle scenes were worse than any epic I have ever seen, the best character in the movie dies within the first 20 minuets, the other half way decent ones only get like 30 seconds of screen time, I could go on all night. In short I want my money back.