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[Lemurnator]

If they can still make money and people will still choke down well over $3 a gallon for fuel... will the Gasoline Gods keep the price at $3 a gallon because they know people will still buy it after the whole crisis is over and Labor day is past? I just remember hearing that they have a habit of raising gas prices for a specific reason then keeping them around the price range they were raised to even as the crisis passed.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

the gas/oil companies have always known we would pay $3 and up because we have to, i don't see why this would make it any different. They've always had us by the balls.

 

[Cloudy]

It'll be $4 by the end of September. Better get used to it >_<

 

[Lemurnator]

It just blows my mind to see such a large portion of America brought to it's knees by something that should have had been prepared for years in advance with the advent of new practical technology.

Where are all the fucking hydrocars?

 

[Cloudy]

Where are all the fucking hydrocars?

And lose the taxes from oil?

 

[kablooey]

Public transportation is the way of the future.

 

[aoi tsuki]

It just blows my mind to see such a large portion of America brought to it's knees by something that should have had been prepared for years in advance with the advent of new practical technology.

Where are all the fucking hydrocars?

What blows me away are the people who needlessly buy trucks and SUVs... still. i hope these prices drive a real and large interest in people to look to more fuel efficient cars, whether they're hybrids or run on some alternative fuel source or not.

 

[G4life98]

What blows me away are the people who needlessly buy trucks and SUVs... still. i hope these prices drive a real and large interest in people to look to more fuel efficient cars, whether they're hybrids or run on some alternative fuel source or not.

well some people just prefer the look of suv's/trucks over cars, my biggest problem is that car makers dont offer hybrid version of more truck and suv lines, since those buyers might be more apt to pay the premium that exist now for hybrid tech.

I know gm has their hydrogen fuel cell car targeted for 2010

 

[Warm Machine]

Problem is that it takes a shit load of energy to make the energy for a hydrogren fuel cel car.

Smart cars get 60 miles to the gallon right now and I think they run on diesel as opposed to gasoline.

 

[G4life98]

Problem is that it takes a shit load of energy to make the energy for a hydrogren fuel cel car.

Smart cars get 60 miles to the gallon right now and I think they run on diesel as opposed to gasoline.

the diesel one wont be released in america, did smart cars come out in canada yet?

 

[Ironclad]

And lose the taxes from oil?

Yeah, but it's a sin tax. Government doesn't want you using it so much but can't really do that much about it so they charge you a higher tax. IIRC, same goes for cigarettes and alchohol.

 

[xabre]

I know gm has their hydrogen fuel cell car targeted for 2010

The fuel cell in that car costs $500,000. Even then, you still need to make the hydrogen, which requires energy input and typically involves natural gas (something in short supply in N America).

 

[whytemyke]

gaf has a lot of smart people here... maybe if one of you posted like 20 minutes less a night and spent that time to work on cold fusion, you could be rich and i wouldn't be paying out my sphincter for engine lube.

 

[G4life98]

The fuel cell in that car costs $500,000. Even then, you still need to make the hydrogen, which requires energy input and typically involves natural gas (something in short supply in N America).

that doesnt matter, since you have to start somewhere and i would love people to start pushing for a biodiesel fueled future and hopefully this current crisis will prompt people to explore alternatives.

 

[Tarazet]

If they can still make money and people will still choke down well over $3 a gallon for fuel... will the Gasoline Gods keep the price at $3 a gallon because they know people will still buy it after the whole crisis is over and Labor day is past? I just remember hearing that they have a habit of raising gas prices for a specific reason then keeping them around the price range they were raised to even as the crisis passed.

Who says I can swallow the number 3? I think it sucks so much that I'm going to stop driving outside of my city limits and take the bus instead. It will add 2 hours to my round trip, but it should save me 300+ miles per week compared to driving to campus. Besides, that's what my PSP is for... I didn't spend $250 for nothing.

 

[Macam]

Rock on, sonarrat. I'm looking into doing more or less the same thing (with a DS, mind you), and I'll better for it.

 

[White Man]

Some analysts are saying that fuel will go to over a hundred per gallon by the time this unfortunate episode is brought to an end. This should do interesting things to the US economy.

 

[op_ivy]

i'm gonna get a bike. hope i dont die

 

[Wendo]

Some analysts are saying that fuel will go to over a hundred per gallon by the time this unfortunate episode is brought to an end.

..Whaaaa?

 

[White Man]

..Whaaaa?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aVwIS5Giw0JM&refer=us

Welcome to the 21st century. For the record, I believe it's in the neighborhood of 65-70 per barrel at the moment, no?

 

[Ristamar]

..Whaaaa?

I'm pretty sure he meant $100 per barrel, not per gallon.

 

[pollo]

im so scared to see what happens once middle america starts to alter their lifestyle due to these supply shocks.
What the fuck are you gonna do Bush.
What the fuck are you gonna do..

God I fucking hate oil.

 

[Lathentar]

I thought this was going to be a topic about chicks swallowing cum.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I thought this was going to be a topic about chicks swallowing cum.

and after 4 strange days worrying about hurricanes, floods, rising gas prices and an inept president, Gaf is finally back!

 

[DMczaf]

I thought this was going to be a topic about chicks swallowing cum.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

how are we supposed to keep the Shawn Michaels thread afloat forever if you waste valuable pics in random threads?

 

[srst]

the diesel one wont be released in america, did smart cars come out in canada yet?

Yup. Canada got them last year. Americans will have to wait till the next gen of Smart comes out. 2007 I believe.

 

[DJ_Tet]

and after 4 strange days worrying about hurricanes, floods, rising gas prices and an inept president, Gaf is finally back!

Heh, I thought about making that joke, but seeing how she's what, 15, I thought better.

Glad someone said it though, it was like a pink elephant in the living room for me

 

[Miguel]

I just sent an email to the good folks at Metro Transit Authority to see how the fuck can I ride the bus to work, even if it means I have to ride for 2 hours. Fuck these gas prices.

 

[Kangu]

I feel bad for anybody whose livelyhood depends on an SUV plant. Because that market is gonna crash, and it's gonna crash hard.

 

[fse]

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

read that stuff... seems handy.

 

[Macam]

I feel bad for anybody whose livelyhood depends on an SUV plant. Because that market is gonna crash, and it's gonna crash hard.

Don't worry, it's been crashing:

Every time Nissan sells a car it averages a profit of almost two grand. Every time General Motors sells a car it loses more than a grand.

Nevertheless GM has been cutting prices.

That has goosed sales and goosed losses at the same time, but the company says it’s enlarging market share. Mention market share to these guys and the lips start smacking and the saliva flows. The company is market sharing itself straight into bankruptcy. That’s why GM’s bonds are rated as junk, fit only for purchase by wild cat speculators.

Its reliance on a lineup of gas swilling SUVs and pickup trucks foretells a loss of market share even if they try to give the damn things away. Who wants all those horses under the hood when hay was going in the direction of $3.50 a gallon even befor the Russian witch Katrina paid her visit to New Orleans?

If fumbling, fuddy-duddy, time encrusted management weren’t enough of a handicap, GM’s and Ford’s pension and health benefit costs for their retirees are killing them. The estimate is that GM has two or more people in rocking chairs for every person on the production line.

These obligations date from when unions were strong and foreign car sales were weak. Now foreign cars are made in the US by non-union workers whose employees have no pensions to look forward to. Even if GM and Ford were to design cars somebody might want to buy at list price, the dead weight of those old union contracts would gradually drag them under
So the once invincible United Automobile Workers will be forced to cough up the benefits won by this generation’s grandparents. It’s cuts to save the company, cuts to save the jobs, and then cuts again until GM and Ford go the way of the big airlines anyhow.

The fall of the union should bring joy to Republican hearts. But the end of American-owned automobile manufacture may not be such cheery news, even though the Germans and the Japanese will probably build better Humvees than American companies can.

Still there is good news for GM. Its car sales dropped like a stone in August. Keep it up, fellas. You’ll break even yet.

 

[psycho_snake]

Its great living in Dubai. Over here it costs $0.24 per galleon and if it somehow rises to the price it has it doesnt matter because my dads company pays for the fuel

 

[borghe]

If they can still make money and people will still choke down well over $3 a gallon for fuel... will the Gasoline Gods keep the price at $3 a gallon because they know people will still buy it after the whole crisis is over and Labor day is past? I just remember hearing that they have a habit of raising gas prices for a specific reason then keeping them around the price range they were raised to even as the crisis passed.

your youth is obvious. we have been through this before, most recently in 2002 and 2000. 2000 we went from just over $1/gallon to damn near $2/gallon. In relation this is nothing. Prices will come back down but will still be much higher than they were at the beginning of the year.

If oil companies kept the prices as high as they peak at, consumers would revolt and find alternative modes of transportation. In the end it would end up costing oil companies, they wouldn't profit from it.

Now that you are old enough to be affected by this time, you should remember this for the next time it happens. Because it will.

 

[Project Midway]

lol, I just bought fuel at €1.31 per litre. Prices are supposed to rise 15 cents per litre by tomorrow.

 

[GoutPatrol]

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

read that stuff... seems handy.

Thanks for making me so fucking paranoid I'm afraid to walk out of my own house.

 

[sc0la]

Didn't

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john titor

say we would need bikes when this time came? not because there wasn't gas, just that it is expensive as fuck

Spoiler

hope that is not still bannable

 

[Lathentar]

and after 4 strange days worrying about hurricanes, floods, rising gas prices and an inept president, Gaf is finally back!

GAF would be back, if this actually was a topic about chicks swallowing.

 

[themadcowtipper]

And the Oil Companies have never been more profitable... 20% profit they make...

 

[Discharger]

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

read that stuff... seems handy.

 

[Ghost]

Will this latest petrol nightmare finally drive american car companies to break out from the shackles of their Oil rich shareholders and invest a helpful amount of money in alternative fuel research?

 

[Lathentar]

Will this latest petrol nightmare finally drive american car companies to break out from the shackles of their Oil rich shareholders and invest a helpful amount of money in alternative fuel research?

Of course, and these oil companies will be the ones investing the money for the research.

 

[fennec fox]

Lemurs + Peak Oil = massive thread.

I would like to see a lemurs thread that stopped at one page just once in my life. I'd pay $9 gas for that.

 

[argon]

On the bright side, higher gas prices means hybrids shouldl come down in price much faster... and higher oil prices means companies/governments willl start seriously looking at alternative energy.. (and maybe the public won't be as ignorant about nuclear energy)

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glad i live within walking distance from work

 

[bishoptl]

After an hour of reading, checking the associated notes and links, then reading some more....that Peak Oil website has got me thoroughly demoralized.

And for those of you who are lucky enough to live within walking distance of your workplace - what happens when there's no work to engage in? No vehicles to ship your goods?

If anybody needs me, I'll be in the corner sniffling and picking at my toenails.

 

[Straightballin]

Bush is seriously killing the US. IMO if we didnt have the war going on the relif for the hurricane would be much better and if we had a better president then we would have the oil situation figured out IMO.

 

[Ghost]

After an hour of reading, checking the associated notes and links, then reading some more....that Peak Oil website has got me thoroughly demoralized.

And for those of you who are lucky enough to live within walking distance of your workplace - what happens when there's no work to engage in? No vehicles to ship your goods?

If anybody needs me, I'll be in the corner sniffling and picking at my toenails.

At least you're in Canada, you can become a frontiersman when society collapses, what am i (a Londoner) supposed to do for food? Pigeons are too damn fast!

 

[Link648099]

From http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

As one commentator recently observed, the reason our leaders are acting like desperados is because we have a desperate situation on our hands.

If you've been wondering why the Bush administration has been spending money, cutting social programs, and starting wars like there's no tomorrow, now you have your answer: as far as they are concerned, there is no tomorrow.

What is particularly disturbing is, that from a purely Machiavellian standpoint, they are probably correct in their thinking.

How ironic would it be to find all the current GAFers, ten years from now, cheering the Bush Administration for all those Middle Eastern countries that were invaded this decade?