The Daily Beast via Chicago Tribune
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(friendly reminder that the prison system is a 3.3 billion dollar industry)
Illinois Sues Inmates for Cost of Prison
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The Daily Beast via Chicago Tribune
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Wat.
(friendly reminder that the prison system is a 3.3 billion dollar industry)
Magical Sound Shower
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This is vile!
ValkyrUser
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Way to scum it up, Illinois. Damn!
DragonSworne
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What is stopping the prisoner from suing back?
Winterblink
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"may"?
old manatee
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Anybody involved in that decision is subhuman imo.
theepicoftyler
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Hopefully this is all just rich former politicians who have just been released. I think we can cover that spread.
The point of prison is to punish for a crime. This is doubling down the punishment.
entremet
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It really should be about rehabilitation, but that's another topic.
But basically, people don't care about convicts, both current or former. They're the dregs of society in terms of focus and care.
Any politician that proposes any meaningful reform will be tarred and feathered and never be elected.
We see convicts as subhuman trash from a society's perspective and it shows with ridiculous laws like these.
That's crazy talk.
If it functions as an extra prison tax on the wealthy who can afford it if they get thrown in jail. I don't have an issue with it. Now if they are hitting random people released from jail who are living in poverty after they get out, then its a horrible idea.
If you want to an extra prison tax on the wealthy why not make it part of their scentence in the first place?
They are not going after millionaires, they are going after people that still have some capital left and could use it to start over after prison. Taking that away makes it much more likely they new start is going to fail - which means more crime and/or people on benefits. It's stupid.
Because wealthy people dont get thrown in jail as much as the not wealthy people.
It's a pity we don't have any protection against against cruel and unusual punishment.
Oh, wait.
Earthstrike
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No, the state is the institution that wants to imprison people. If I walk up to someone on the street and beat them so hard I injure my knuckles, I do not get to sue the person I beat up for my knuckle injuries. The state is the one that wants to imprison individuals. They bear the cost of the actions they take to maintain an orderly society.
This attitude of shitting on the rich for being rich is going too far here.
What's the point of releasing if they're gonna keep on punishing. Might as well make everyone's sentence for life.
In all honesty, they're probably counting on convicts not wanting to engage with the legal system to protect their rights.
Sho_Nuff82
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Education and finances are pretty big hurdles for tackling the criminal justice system.
Tertullian
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Once a menace to society, always a menace to society.
Whaaaaaaaaat?
Norwegian Rudo
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No it isn't.
entremet
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It's a moot point. The rich aren't making up prison populations at all.
It absolutely is. Whether you believe it should be or whether it's effective at doing anything while it is, these points are up for discussion. But the US penal system is completely designed for punishment. It's right there in the name. The only times that the prison system is mentioned in the US constitution are in reference to punishment. No part of the US justice system in general was designed around rehabilitation. It's made to hand out a punishment for the crime committed.
And what makes the state have a right to that money in this instance? The inmates paid their due. Worked for free even. This is just scummy and it doesn't shock me that its happening in my own state of Illinois.
We're a mess financially and they literally do anything to get a buck out of you.
The problem here is not so much a lack of rehabilitation, if a country wants to spend billions refining criminals just to sate their need for revenge that is up to them - if that is the law.
The problem here is the insistence on punishing people after they have completed their sentence.
People can get decades in prison, but when they get out they find massive barriers preventing them from living a law abiding life.
This then forms another punishment that was never part of the original indictment.
The problem here is the insistence on punishing people after they have completed their sentence.
People can get decades in prison, but when they get out they find massive barriers preventing them from living a law abiding life.
This then forms another punishment that was never part of the original indictment.
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