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What exactly did Nietzsche meant when he wrote this?


Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
 

demi

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norinrad21 said:
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

Use the mirror shield, and stand for at least a minute to open the door to the dungeon.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
The funny thing about regret is
that it's better to regret something you have done
than something you haven't done

and by the way
if you see your mom this weekend
be sure to tell her...
SATANSATANSATANSATANSATANSATANSATANSATAN

Boooooow-be-bowww ......... rinkrinkrink...
 

SD-Ness

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Instigator is right. "Battle" is an intimate action between people where each must outwit the other another, and this is done by knowing the personal weaknesses of one's opponent. In doing this, it is possible for one to become, to grow fond of the thing that he is destroying. Or, in other cases, one would stoop to the level of his opponent - for example, if the opponent was using guerilla warfare and terrorism, one could counter with torture (as seen in the Battle of Algiers during the Algerian War for Independence.)

The second sentence, dealing with the abyss, is more of the same. The "abyss" is a metaphor for evilness. This has a lot to do with Joseph Conrad's novella, Heart of Darkness It's actually making me wonder if Conrad based the novella on that quote, or if it's an epigraph to the work. I'll have to research that.
 

Link1110

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My favorite quote from philosiphy (I even have this bumper sticker)

"He who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
 

whytemyke

Honorary Canadian.
First sentence about the monsters:
I believe, essentially, that it refers to conflict overall. In the course of any conflict, be it an argument, war, etc, you must always remain true to yourself, so as not to forget not only why you are fighting, but what you are fighting.

And as for the abyss, I think it can be metaphorical for many situations. Do not ponder for too long on anything, for those things will eventually 'look back' on you. It'll make you question your overall reason in regards to what you're looking back, and possibly even go into loss of self as you'll lose context of what it is you're looking for-- your problem, or are you using your problem to look at yourself.
 

etiolate

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Don't be consumed by the beast inside of you. Or don't stoop to the level of your enemy, but the quotes probably have to do more with that first bit. Sort of like Jung's theories, and theories on mythology symbolism. And yeah Heart of Darkness would be good read on that whole "darkness within" abyss stuff.
 
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