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[Poetic.Injustice]

In a rare move, the Field General Court Martial (FGCM) on Monday handed Indian spy Kulbhushan Jadhav the death sentence after trial for involvement in espionage and sabotage activities in Karachi and Balochistan.

Jadhav was arrested on March 3, 2016 through a counter-intelligence operation in Balochistan's Mashkel area for his involvement in espionage and sabotage activities against Pakistan, the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said.

Jadhav's earlier confessional statement was aired by then ISPR head Lt Gen Asim Bajwa, in which he admitted to involvement in terror activities in Balochistan and Karachi.

Terming the Indian spy's arrest a 'big achievement', Bajwa said at the time that Jadhav was directly handled by the RAW chief, the Indian National Security Adviser and the RAW joint secretary.

"His goal was to disrupt development of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), with Gwadar port as a special target," Bajwa had said, adding, "This is nothing short of state-sponsored terrorism... There can be no clearer evidence of Indian interference in Pakistan."

https://www.dawn.com/news/1326109/pakistan-sentences-indian-spy-kulbhushan-jadhav-to-death

 

[G.ZZZ]

Sad to see what happened to India and Pakistan after the end of the British rule. The division seems to have brought nothing good, really.

 

[capitalCORN]

Looks like Kashmir may become rather busy again.

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

Confessional video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tgAefnxqyU

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

A history of spies from India unfortunately discarded later in life.

http://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/the-black-hole-of-the-expendables/296929

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Confessional video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tgAefnxqyU

I don't know a ton about things but that video seemed really really poorly stitched together.

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

I don't know a ton about things but that video seemed really really poorly stitched together.

India have already accepted that he is their citizen and said he's a retired Indian officer.

 

[Mimosa97]

Sad to see what happened to India and Pakistan after the end of the British rule. The division seems to have brought nothing good, really.

Religion.

 

[MikeMyers]

Sad to see what happened to India and Pakistan after the end of the British rule. The division seems to have brought nothing good, really.

The partition was botched from day 1. Bangladesh should have always been it's own country, and Britian should have sorted out Kashmir before they left. Sigh.

 

[Stinkles]

The partition was botched from day 1. Bangladesh should have always been it's own country, and Britian should have sorted out Kashmir before they left. Sigh.

How dare you. Britain has never ever drawn a bad or arbitrary border which later led to strife and war.

 

[MikeMyers]

How dare you. Britain has never ever drawn a bad or arbitrary border which later led to strife and war.

The British Empire was epic man. We took over the whole world. No sign of human rights abuse there.

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

A. S. Dulat, a former Indian spy chief, said in an interview that the news of the death sentence came as a surprise and was a further setback in relations between the two neighbors. “This is unbelievable kind of thing, shocking. This comes out of blue without any knowledge of trial, or evidence of the case and suddenly you hear that man is going to be hanged,” Mr. Dulat said by phone.

Mr. Dulat said “spies are caught everywhere all the time.” “You ask for a favor. Somebody returns a favor. That’s how it is. You don’t hang people. In normal circumstances, you don’t hang the people like this,” he said.

Farooq Hameed Khan, a retired Pakistani brigadier and defense analyst based in Lahore, Pakistan, said Mr. Jadhav was no ordinary catch for Pakistan. “He was not just a spy. Indian spy rings have been busted in the past. Jadhav is a serving Indian navy officer, who was working for RAW and involved in terror activities. He is a murderer. He is a terrorist.”

“The death sentence is a big development and sends a very strong message to India that its attempts to sow terror inside Pakistan will not be tolerated,” Mr. Khan said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/10/...death-sentence-spy-kulbhushan-yadav.html?_r=0

 

[Ishan]

For those not from India indias CIA is split into two in which focus on counter terrorism and internal security and raw which focuses on external . So this is like if Russia caught a CIA spy and decided to execute him . Instead of the traditional expelling exchange of spies etc .

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

For those not from India indias CIA is split into two in which focus on counter terrorism and internal security and raw which focuses on external . So this is like if Russia caught a CIA spy and decided to execute him . Instead of the traditional expelling exchange of spies etc .

Now consider the fact that the CIA agent in question would have been directly funding/abetting/encouraging terrorists inside Russia instead of merely spying. That would be a different case altogether.

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

A notable similarity among all these cases is that despite being sentenced to death, all three of these individuals had their sentences commuted to life imprisonment, despite the fact that they were all, at best, lower to mid-tier operatives. Looking at these cases, the precedent seems to suggest that we might not see Kulbhushan Jadhav executed any time soon.

For the time being, he serves as a major bargaining chip for Pakistan in its interaction with India. Having Jadhav in custody gives Pakistan the moral high ground of holding the self-professed architect of a major espionage/terrorism operation, an active military officer whom its security services arrested within the country’s borders. The seniority of the official involved makes it perhaps the only such case since the end of the Cold War. Regardless of whether the sentence is commuted or not, the situation favors Pakistan at the moment.

India’s options are severely limited. If Pakistan does decide to hang Jadhav, it will leave India looking impotent, rather than the regional power it wants to project itself as. If he is kept alive, however, Pakistan can continue to tout him as the face of India’s undeclared war against Pakistan.

Seeing the sharp deterioration of relations in the last two years, finding a diplomatic solution to this situation looks to be near impossible. Thus in reaching this decision, Pakistan has effectively played a masterstroke designed to put India into a corner. With few options and room to maneuver, it will be interesting to see how India plays its gambit. Will it try to secure the release of its officer from Pakistan but risk international embarrassment? Or will the country allow him to walk quietly to the gallows and accept its helplessness in the matter? Either way, the situation does not factor well into the Indian strategic calculus.

http://thediplomat.com/2017/04/pakistan-sentences-accused-indian-spy-to-death/

 

[tbm24]

My coworker is a dual national originally from Pakistan. He was showing me this earlier and telling me he's terrified as our manager tapped him to travel with her to India in June to launch our division at the two branches in India. At this point he's scared about going. Bad enough that he has to register with the precinct before he can move to another's province(I believe that's what it's called in India? Could be wrong), now he thinks he might be plucked off the streets and made an example. With this I can't help but believe he's being rational with that fear.

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

My coworker is a dual national originally from Pakistan. He was showing me this earlier and telling me he's terrified as our manager tapped him to travel with her to India in June to launch our division at the two branches in India. At this point he's scared about going. Bad enough that he has to register with the precinct before he can move to another's province(I believe that's what it's called in India? Could be wrong), now he thinks he might be plucked off the streets and made an example. With this I can't help but believe he's being rational with that fear.

He's not far off with comments like this coming from Indian celebrities:

Kulbhushan Jadhav death penalty: Abhijeet Bhattacharya says, ‘Hang all Pakistanis you come across’; taunts Bollywood’s ‘Khans’ over silence

Bollywood singer Abhijeet Bhattacharya today stoked a controversy with his twitter post in the wake of Pakistan’s death penalty for Ex-Indian Navy officer Kulbhushan Jadhav.

The singer took to his twitter account and wrote, “Bharat mai Pakistani dikhe toh unko ped se latka do (Is you come across a Pakistani in India, hang them to a tree).. you will find them mostly in Bollywood or Bhatt or Johar’s house”

Bhattacharya has also questioned all the Khans of Bollywood over their silence about the Kulbhushan Jadhav death sentence. He wrote, “Saare Khans chup kyu ho ??” (Why are all the Khans silent?)

http://www.financialexpress.com/ind...-taunts-bollywoods-khans-over-silence/623573/

 

[LordOfChaos]

How dare you. Britain has never ever drawn a bad or arbitrary border which later led to strife and war.

"It's not a bad idea to put Pakistan in two chunks on opposite sides of India, right?"
"Right, sir!"


*west Pakistan promptly starts genociding East Pakistan*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide


Meanwhile Pakistani prisoners in India had been released, until this death sentence, which will no doubt sour or prevent future releases
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-releases-39-pak-prisoners/article17388231.ece

 

[Madness]

Sad to see what happened to India and Pakistan after the end of the British rule. The division seems to have brought nothing good, really.

Well what do you expect? The British wanted to wash their hands of their mess. They took mostly Sikh/Punjabi land, handed it to Muslim Indians and called it Pakistan, a lot of Muslim developed cities were then part of India. Millions had to migrate and die through the ethnic violence of partition. The biggest losers in it all are the Pakistanis. By embracing their Islamic culture first, they have aligned themselves with Persia and Middle Eastern affairs when they are in reality ethnically South Asian and have thousands of years of their own culture in India that they no longer enjoy. When people see the Taj Mahal they see it as an Indian symbol when Pakistanis should be just as proud. Sikhs in punjab india cannot visit the birthplace of their first guru as the land is now in Pakistan and very dangerous to travel. Speak with a Pakistani and a North Indian, see the similarities.

Also, pretty rich to say that India is fomenting the discord in Balochistan when Pakistan has trouble controlling extremism coming from those fleeing Afghanistan. The whole area has become almost lawless and tribal. As for China, a country that complains loudly of others interfering in sovereign issues like Taiwan, they sure as shit have helped Pakistan develop the hell out of Pakistan Occupied Kashmir.

 

[Dopus]

Religion.

Yes, of course, it can all be explained by religion. it definitely has nothing to do with the partition. For sure it has nothing to do with land or natural resources either.

 

[RK9039]

Yes, of course, it can all be explained by religion. it definitely has nothing to do with the partition. For sure it has nothing to do with land or natural resources either.

How dare you, it has absolutely nothing to do with Britain. Nothing at all.

 

[Dopus]

How dare you, it has absolutely nothing to do with Britain. Nothing at all.

That's what I'm saying. It's all religion. If you took away religion every single problem mankind is facing would disappear, like trust me I know these things. And if you don't believe me, answer this one simple question. Since when has imperialism ever caused any problems? Checkmate.

 

[Amory]

Religion.

god if only there was no religion no one would have any problems

 

[Mimosa97]

Yes, of course, it can all be explained by religion. it definitely has nothing to do with the partition. For sure it has nothing to do with land or natural resources either.

Why was there a partition in the first place ? You think the deceptive brits would have been able to screw everything up if there wasn't so much hatred in the first place ? Same problem in the middle east.

Religious and ethnic tensions. The source of almost every conflict since the dawn time. You take that and you add the evil of colonization and it's a recipe for disaster that will last for centuries.