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Exclusive: Intel Arc Battlemage to launch December 12th - VideoCardz.com

Intel to unveil Battlemage GPUs next week, launching mid-December The company will introduce two graphics cards. Next week, Intel will reveal its plans for the discrete GPU series codenamed Battlemage. The first models to launch from the new Xe2-HPG-based series are the B580 and B570, as...

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Glad to see another generation of Intel Arc GPUs. These should turn out better than last time... Arc drivers have improved a lot.

 

[Buggy Loop]

I wish them well

We need it

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Imagine if they make GPUs without ridiculously low amounts of VRAM that (intentionally?) cripple their cards. That'd put pressure on NVIDIA and AMD.

 

[amigastar]

Imagine if they make GPUs without ridiculously low amounts of VRAM that (intentionally?) cripple their cards. That'd put pressure on NVIDIA and AMD.

Yeah, 12gb ram for xx70 series is just a joke honestly. Should be 16gb

 

[StereoVsn]

I really hope this turns out well. Really need more GPU competition and Intel needs a W.

 

[ap_puff]

Bruh... That's a 4060/7600XT competitor...

 

[SportsFan581]

Bruh... That's a 4060/7600XT competitor...

If it's decent it might get some price drops and be an incredible value down the road. The A580 wasn't a bad deal at all when they started running it at $175 or so.

It will be interesting to see where the B700 series falls if they release one.

 

[ap_puff]

If it's decent it might get some price drops and be an incredible value down the road. The A580 wasn't a bad deal at all when they started running it at $175 or so.

It will be interesting to see where the B700 series falls if they release one.

Yeah but I'm only interested in mid-upper end cards. Give me a 4080-5080 competitor. I'm not going backwards lol

 

[StereoVsn]

Yeah but I'm only interested in mid-upper end cards. Give me a 4080-5080 competitor. I'm not going backwards lol

The most popular discrete GPU on Steam is desktop 3060 followed by laptop 4060 and then the desktop 4060.

The Intel board should do just fine as a mass market targeted part as long as price and performance hit the sweet spot.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Was aiming to get a RTX 4060 TI or a RTX 5060 once I get a brand new PC but this could be a better deal.

 

[Pimpbaa]

Are their drivers still shit? Heard that was a huge problem with their previous cards.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Yeah but I'm only interested in mid-upper end cards. Give me a 4080-5080 competitor. I'm not going backwards lol

Yea, that's not gonna be Intel for now. Mid-range at best. It's where the money is. When you get to x080 and x090 series the percentages drop like a brick. Those who already chase this level are probably 95% Nvidia, and Intel would have to fight AMD for the scraps. Not worth it at this early stage.

Hell from the rumours, AMD won't even compete in that range for RDNA 4. So forget Intel if you want the next upgrade after 4080.

 

[Hoddi]

The most popular discrete GPU on Steam is desktop 3060 followed by laptop 4060 and then the desktop 4060.

The Intel board should do just fine as a mass market targeted part as long as price and performance hit the sweet spot.

I don't think it's even about performance as much as plain trust. People didn't buy their last gen because it underperformed but because Intel still hasn't proven itself in the GPU space.

It's a major uphill battle for them when most people don't even trust AMD's drivers to perform well enough. It's a very wrong opinion but there isn't much you can do to change that perception other than simply proving yourself over time. Intel's drivers are perfectly fine for the most part but people will read about a few games having issues and it will taint their entire perception of them.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I don't think it's even about performance as much as plain trust. People didn't buy their last gen because it underperformed but because Intel still hasn't proven itself in the GPU space.

It's a major uphill battle for them when most people don't even trust AMD's drivers to perform well enough. It's a very wrong opinion but there isn't much you can do to change that perception other than simply proving yourself over time. Intel's drivers are perfectly fine for the most part but people will read about a few games having issues and it will taint their entire perception of them.

It's a wrong opinion to expect all your games to just work huh

AMD still hasn't made that happen after 3 decades, just ask WoW players who had that 20 years old game broken by the most recent AMD drivers

To think gamers will give Intel a chance on this when they just want games to work is kind of silly. PC gaming would have a better reputation compared to console gaming if games just worked 100% of the time. If you buy Nvidia, you can expect your games to just work 100% of the time and that's worth more than saving $30 on some low end or midrange card

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Yea, that's not gonna be Intel for now. Mid-range at best. It's where the money is. When you get to x080 and x090 series the percentages drop like a brick. Those who already chase this level are probably 95% Nvidia, and Intel would have to fight AMD for the scraps. Not worth it at this early stage.

Hell from the rumours, AMD won't even compete in that range for RDNA 4. So forget Intel if you want the next upgrade after 4080.

I miss the old days where the 70s series cards were also pretty good bang for bucks especially during the 700 to 1000 series. But now with how bad the prices are, it's just mostly the 60s series cards that's worth it since the 3000 series.

It's a wrong opinion to expect all your games to just work huh

AMD still hasn't made that happen after 3 decades, just ask WoW players who had that 20 years old game broken by the most recent AMD drivers

To think gamers will give Intel a chance on this when they just want games to work is kind of silly. PC gaming would have a better reputation compared to console gaming if games just worked 100% of the time. If you buy Nvidia, you can expect your games to just work 100% of the time and that's worth more than saving $30 on some low end or midrange card

Yeah I was always a Nvidia guy even though for years I've been hearing how AMD had better priced cards. But Nvidia cards have never failed me. I'm still using my GTX 1070 and it's been 8 years.

 

[VolticArchangel]

$250 for a 4060/7600 equivalent, isn't all that bad.

But RDNA4 is also around the corner, and they're entirely focussing on mid-range only this time, so the price to perf might get slightly tilted towards AMD if they launch an RX 8600 as $270, for superior raster/rt perf.

Then there's the RTX 5060 at $300, around Feb-March, which will probably trade blows with the RX 8600 in raster and be superior in RT and DLSS.

Still, this is good for the industry and I hope Intel doesn't drop their dgpu R&D, like it was rumored recently, and continue past their current roadmap till Celestial.

 

[kiphalfton]

I wish them well

We need it

Yeah, my portfolio needs it too.

 

[SABRE220]

Please reach 4070/4070 super levels. We really need intel to do well for the gpu market to have any semblance of value.

Unless they reach xx70 tier this won't do much in the market. They need a gamechanger in the current super expensive gpu market since otherwise Nvidia will just release a 5060 in a few months and overshadow Intels offering.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Yeah, my portfolio needs it too.

Why didn't you just buy NVDA instead lol

 

[SolidQ]

AMD if they launch an RX 8600 as $270, for superior raster/rt perf.

12GB version RDNA4 a lot faster than B580, so won't be 270$

 

[DenchDeckard]

They are going for a price play this time. Targeting 4060 market at a cheaper price.

Lets see how it plays out. They don't even equate to 1 percent of the market at present.

 

[ap_puff]

Yea, that's not gonna be Intel for now. Mid-range at best. It's where the money is. When you get to x080 and x090 series the percentages drop like a brick. Those who already chase this level are probably 95% Nvidia, and Intel would have to fight AMD for the scraps. Not worth it at this early stage.

Hell from the rumours, AMD won't even compete in that range for RDNA 4. So forget Intel if you want the next upgrade after 4080.

Here's the problem, they're launching into a market that already has that type of product, at around the price that it's going to launch at. Maybe this could have been a decent product if it weren't launching right before rdna4 and blackwell, if it was ready a year ago it may have put a dent in the low end market. But it didn't.

 

[StereoVsn]

Here's the problem, they're launching into a market that already has that type of product, at around the price that it's going to launch at. Maybe this could have been a decent product if it weren't launching right before rdna4 and blackwell, if it was ready a year ago it may have put a dent in the low end market. But it didn't.

It is what it is regarding the dates. They can plug away at market share, give some deals to OEMs and give work to their chip plants. The latter is also very important.

The main thing to do is not drop this in the very beginning as the usual cut costing feature based on Wall Street’s next quarter expectations and keep working.

 

[nowhat]

These should turn out better than last time...

Just like the CPUs, right?

 

[Zathalus]

Based on the leaked specifications and clock speed it should outperform a 4060. Probably around ~10% in rasterisation. Combine that with 12GB of VRAM and the rumoured sub $300 price point and it should be a great card. Assuming Intel can keep making improvements to the drivers.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Bruh... That's a 4060/7600XT competitor...

And? Most PC gamers dont buy XX80's or XX90's gpus. The majority have mid-range gpus and if Intel can grab some percentage of that, they can grow easily. Going for high-end against nvidia is suicide.

 

[mrMUR_96]

Hope it turns out well, need more competition, gpu market has been dire for value the last few years. I heard their VR drivers are still a bit of a mess though, hope they fix that soon and I'd definitely be interested.

 

[RagnarokIV]

When they go after the x70 series I'll join in but I'm not downgrading lol

 

[SScorpio]

When they go after the x70 series I'll join in but I'm not downgrading lol

Hopefully they can, AMD has completely failed there. Here's a card that's $50 less than NVIDIA, overall it's slightly faster but once you enable all the modern bells and whistles it falls apart and you'll be kicking yourself for not buying the NVIDIA card.

And the big issue with that, is that it felt like NVIDIA released a lower class card with a higher class tag on it because they have not competition. IE 4060 should have been the 4050, 4060ti/4060, 4070/4060, etc. So they just sand bagged the entire generation, and if they had the proper amount of RAM there would have been no point on buying anything else. But the leaked specs for the RTX 5000 series based on the power draw does look like the card classes are correctly aligned again. I wouldn't be surprised if this is so they don't lose their top spot to either AMD or Intel. But hopefully this isn't like the GTX 1000 series where AMD's leaked specs made NVIDIA release the insanely awesome 1080ti for a great price. But then AMD failed to deliver so NVIDIA shot themselves in the foot with the RTX 2000 series.

 

[simpatico]

If this stacks up the way GPU math dictates it should, and is priced at the low end of what some people are guessing, it could be really compelling. Especially with XeSS handily whooping FSR on native Intel hardware. My only concern as someone in the market for a midrange GPU is if Intel is in a position to support what would be a losing GPU endeavor for however long it takes to get a foothold. With their CPU division on fire, I'm less confident in that aspect.

 

[RagnarokIV]

If this stacks up the way GPU math dictates it should, and is priced at the low end of what some people are guessing, it could be really compelling. Especially with XeSS handily whooping FSR on native Intel hardware.

RT performance is better too. If these cards are decent, AMD are worthless (at least in my opinion) and delivering a flat out inferior product in all price brackets.

 

[simpatico]

RT performance is better too. If these cards are decent, AMD are worthless (at least in my opinion) and delivering a flat out inferior product in all price brackets.

People forget that Intel have been making super efficient GPU cores all this time for their laptop market. They have more graphics chops than the enthusiast crowd gives them credit for.

 

[grvg]

I hope that this works out really well and Intel is able to get their house back in order.

I prefer AMD but having one of the major players die off would be horrible for everyone.

 

[Futaleufu]

I would've bought Intel but went with an RX6700 because I play a lot of old games. If they improve their drivers for DX9/11 era gaming I would probably buy one for a next build.

 

[SScorpio]

People forget that Intel have been making super efficient GPU cores all this time for their laptop market. They have more graphics chops than the enthusiast crowd gives them credit for.

They are still about 15% below AMD's APU offerings. They work in a pinch, but a dedicated GPU is still preferred.

However, their media encode/decode runs more or less neck and neck with NVIDIA's best and crushes what AMD can do.

I hope that this works out really well and Intel is able to get their house back in order.

I prefer AMD but having one of the major players die off would be horrible for everyone.

For their constant fumbles on the GPU side, they still have a good amount of gaming locked in being the hardware behind both Sony and Microsoft's consoles. And the preferred solution for PC gaming handhelds.

But if they can get their graphics division in order, then we'll see some leaps in the gaming front. Right now the stagnation is down to AMD struggling with the latest tech. They have the raw horse power, but new tech like ray tracing (is it even considered new nowadays?) is hold back how games can look. The lack luster improvements of the PS5/XSX because of this IMO. Those consoles had a big CPU performance increase from their predecessors, but were much less of a generational increase on the GPU side.

 

[RCX]

Will it run games this time?

Seriously though, Intel should be gtfo-ing out of this market. Focus on making good (and functional) cpus again.

As much as I wish it wasn't true, they aren't the one to break nvidias hold.

 

[Soodanim]

Imagine telling your 2010 self that in the future the most popular CPU is AMD and you can pair it with an Intel GPU

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Exclusive: Intel Arc Battlemage to launch December 12th - VideoCardz.com

Intel to unveil Battlemage GPUs next week, launching mid-December The company will introduce two graphics cards. Next week, Intel will reveal its plans for the discrete GPU series codenamed Battlemage. The first models to launch from the new Xe2-HPG-based series are the B580 and B570, as...

videocardz.com

Glad to see another generation of Intel Arc GPUs. These should turn out better than last time... Arc drivers have improved a lot.

Amen! Liked both of the previous entries. Day1(for my microbiilds)

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Its going to be a soft launch with limited availability.

Sorry but its the truth. Intel drastically cut the budget on the GPUs

 

[winjer]

We now have official confirmation from Intel.

 

[SolidQ]

However, their media encode/decode runs more or less neck and neck with NVIDIA's best and crushes what AMD can do

Wrong

 

[SScorpio]

Wrong

Please provide proof. AMD's inability to properly handle HDR tone mapping is a huge limitation and the reason they aren't used in media servers. It's either use an NVIDIA card, or just stick with the iGPU of an Intel.

 

[SolidQ]

Please provide proof

As you see intel 1st. Nv/AMD+- same, Apple last

 

[winjer]

Intel Arc B570 specs leaked: 18 Xe2-Cores, 10GB memory and PCIe 4.0x8 - VideoCardz.com

Intel Arc B570 has 10GB memory, confirms spec sheet from ASRock Almost full specs of Battlemage GPUs have been leaked. Following the disclosure of the Intel Arc Battlemage Limited Edition series, a new leak reveals almost the entire specs of the Arc Battlemage lineup. As we exclusively reported...

videocardz.com

 

[Zathalus]

Based on that 6750XT/4060 Ti performance for the B580 seems about right. Rasterisation of course and depending if the driver is good.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Intel Arc B570 specs leaked: 18 Xe2-Cores, 10GB memory and PCIe 4.0x8 - VideoCardz.com

Intel Arc B570 has 10GB memory, confirms spec sheet from ASRock Almost full specs of Battlemage GPUs have been leaked. Following the disclosure of the Intel Arc Battlemage Limited Edition series, a new leak reveals almost the entire specs of the Arc Battlemage lineup. As we exclusively reported...

videocardz.com

This as well.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

Its going to be a soft launch with limited availability.

Sorry but its the truth. Intel drastically cut the budget on the GPUs

They are pushing the launch to decide if the GPU division is something they can afford to continue with long term or not. If it doesn’t gain traction I wouldn’t be surprised if that part of the business was sold off or shut down. I’m hoping for a worthwhile contender that will bring some competition to the market, but Intel isn’t in a great place to be competing on cost right now.

 

[Gaiff]

But the leaked specs for the RTX 5000 series based on the power draw does look like the card classes are correctly aligned again.

The core count suggests otherwise.

 

[SScorpio]

As you see intel 1st. Nv/AMD+- same, Apple last

This is just encoding to HEVC (h.265). Hopefully something has changed and h.264 was was considered worse on AMD by a good margin has been fixed.

The hardware might also support it, but as I mentioned issues with HDR tone mapping support hold them back.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

OK so who is gonna be brave enough and be the guinea pig for the rest of us and buys one of those?