• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Intel has lost all of its dedicated GPU market share

LordOfChaos

Member

2024-09-25-image-11-j.webp


F. Granted they haven't released anything new in a while, but rounding to 0 market share is rough. I really do hope Intel keeps at it in GPUs and that division doesn't make it to their chopping block to save 15 billion dollars by 2025. The first gen was already impressive in a few ways, already better RT and upscaling than AMD, 2-3 generations in and it could really be a viable third player, but people need to buy it to get there. Hope Battlemage picks it up to more marketshare than first gen ever had.

Nvidia is the darling of the AI world right now, but even AMD has made several times more return from datacenter than gaming last quarter, and all the silicon they can get their hands on for expensive training chips flying off the shelf doesn't look great for value for gamers with the old duopoly.
 

flying_sq

Member
They just need to keep going, it was never going to be easy. I feel like you burn billions before you make a profitable GPU. Nvidia is trying to distance it's self from gaming, and become an "AI Company". This is a great time to add a 3rd GPU manufacturer.
 

SScorpio

Member
Just look at AMD vs NVIDIA. On the Steam Hardware Survey you hit almost 40% NVIDIA cards before a single AMD entry shows up. Arc launched as the GPU market was starting to recover. If it was six months earlier it would have sold a lot more even with the driver issues.

But the first launch was never going to be able to take over the market. There's decades of tech and knowledge that's been built on. That's why Arc ran modern games great, but struggled with older ones. Intel's having major issues right now, but hopefully they can stay the course. With AMD once again bowing out of the flagship race with RDNA 4, that lets Intel strike and fight for second place.

Lunar Lake is the first taste of the XE2 cores, and even as a limited iGPU it shows promise. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...ll-holding-back-arc-graphics-140v-performance

The early tests are showing Arc A380 and AMD 780M performance. This is in a SOC targeted at 12 hours+ laptops, not a gaming machine. And games look very playable with only 8 GPU cores. A discrete card with 50-60 will be far more powerful.

In the end we're not going to see Intel take on NVIDIA's RTX 5090, but they will be putting major pressure on the 5060 and possibly 5070 range. A three horse race there will hopefully lead to better prices, and that's where a large amount of GPUs are purchased by people building new PCs.
 

hinch7

Member
Counterpoint - Intel didn't do a good enough job with their marketing for these GPU's and they royally screwed up the initial launch when it came to drivers.

You can't expect people to purchase half-baked products that they aren't even aware of.
Pretty much first impressions matter. And especially if you're new to the market. Their drivers launched broken and new games regularly not working as intended before patches.

No reason to buy them over an AMD or Nvidia graphics card when they are much more stable and don't cost all that much more. The only saving grace is the 16GB VRAM in the A770 but whats the point if its a buggy/unstable mess.
 
Counterpoint - Intel didn't do a good enough job with their marketing for these GPU's and they royally screwed up the initial launch when it came to drivers.

You can't expect people to purchase half-baked products that they aren't even aware of.

It's too bad these didn't hit better with consumers once the drivers improved. They did put a lot of effort into trying to get the drivers fixed.

The biggest issue was probably that they couldn't get the prices down enough to compete with AMD once the 6700XT got a price reduction.
 
Last edited:

Trogdor1123

Member
Well, the current Intel stuff is super old and out dated. Probably a jump when they put out the new stuff… maybe… if their drivers work… maybe. I’d like more competition!
 

SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Counterpoint - Intel didn't do a good enough job with their marketing for these GPU's and they royally screwed up the initial launch when it came to drivers.

You can't expect people to purchase half-baked products that they aren't even aware of.
Yeah let's be honest, it was a soft launch. The software wasn't ready but they couldn't hold back the cards or they would get lapped by competitors so they pushed it out unfinished and hoped they could at least learn something along the way.
 

RagnarokIV

Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
As an owner of a 7900 XTX - I believe Intel are the only hope we have for the GPU market at the moment. Their RT performance is good and xess w/ hardware shits on crappy FSR. But isn’t our job to support subpar products and subsidize a multi million corporation.

Luckily with the drivers being sorted Battlemage should be solid enough. The only problem is being late to the party, the rumored 4070 performance isn’t going to be exciting when it eventually releases.
 
Last edited:

LordOfChaos

Member
I told intel to bring back the AGP standard if only they had listened!

On a serious note the issue with only having good performance with reBAR enabled made it a bit messy for the first several months too, many of these GPUs would have been a good drop in upgrade for older systems at their performance level where Nvidia and AMD were both ignoring the low to lower mid end, but without that it excluded most of those systems
 

T4keD0wN

Member
All of the Intel GPUs went poof overnight?

Glad i didnt end up buying one just for AV1 encoding. Techspot lowering themselves to clickbait titles now too.
 
Last edited:
It's going to be even tougher for them if AMD focuses more on the broader middle market. Intel had a chance there as Nvidia kept moving upmarket, but AMD can push them out easily.
 

PeteBull

Member
Its all about the drivers in the end, that 5-10% faster performance is ofc nice to have if u buy non nvidia with their premium priced products, but w/e performance u gain, if drivers arent solid, it will not matter, especially if we talking not few benchmarks for card review, but actual day to day normal gaming use.
 
Oh yeah, despite Nvidia pricing even AMD is getting crushed

Another reason why three viable players would be a huge upgrade from two
well AMD is betting on low level low margin market, but the catch is that gamers are willing to buy more expensive Nvidia card or buy used one and use it instead of going after weaker AMD card.
 
Top Bottom