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Interesting Monkey Ball Deluxe thought...

It's going to be a giant rotating Xbox, because that's the only way another analog stick is going to be able to manage. :p
 
:P

It obviously had to be renamed from "Nintendo," but I don't think they could have just retextured the GCN to be a plain indigo block or something. It had a handle, and all the grooves of the actual system, opened up at the end, etc.

So it seems that Xbox and PS2 owners WON'T be getting every single SMB1/2 level after all! Bwa ha ha.
 
I just saw some videos of people who were good at SMB playing it and now I need to buy that game.
 
NLB2 said:
I just saw some videos of people who were good at SMB playing it and now I need to buy that game.

Although you should certainly buy the game, be advised: you will never be able to do the things you saw in those videos ;)

I say "never" instead of "probably never" because the best SMB players are... I don't even know how to describe them. "Incredible" doesn't quite cover it. I played for world records for a year or so and at my peak I was 9th in the world, but the gap between me and the #1 player was as large as the gap between me and someone who has never played the game.

Just check out this video:

www.pkfire.com/wp-images/A11-packattack-35980.zip

Despite its short length, its far and away one of the most amazing videogame feats I've ever seen. .1 wires are very hard to cross, let alone GIMMICK OFF THE CORNER of them twice, and land ON one later on while still managing to turn and finish without any loss of speed. Ah... incredible.

PS: Keep this link on GAF, por favor.
 
GDJustin said:
Although you should certainly buy the game, be advised: you will never be able to do the things you saw in those videos ;)

I say "never" instead of "probably never" because the best SMB players are... I don't even know how to describe them. "Incredible" doesn't quite cover it. I played for world records for a year or so and at my peak I was 9th in the world, but the gap between me and the #1 player was as large as the gap between me and someone who has never played the game.

Just check out this video:

www.pkfire.com/wp-images/A11-packattack-35980.zip

Despite its short length, its far and away one of the most amazing videogame feats I've ever seen. .1 wires are very hard to cross, let alone GIMMICK OFF THE CORNER of them twice, and land ON one later on while still managing to turn and finish without any loss of speed. Ah... incredible.

PS: Keep this link on GAF, por favor.
I remember playing that level when I rented the game a couple years ago. It took me about 20 tries to beat it for the first time. That video is insane.

Watching these videos has shown me that there is a lot more depths to the mechanics of the game than I originally thought, that's what makes me so interested in the game now. It looks like it would be a very rewarding game to invest time into. Which one is better, 1 or 2? (I don't have an XBox)
 
Well, they both can be found on the cheap, so I'm tempted to take the cop-out answer and say just get both. They really are both easily worth what they sell for, these days.

The single player in SMB1 is a much more hardcore, skill-based affair. Very few levels have moving parts, and the ones that do just have slow-ish platforms or something similar. Unlocking the extra and master levels in SMB1 is also much more difficult. You have to beat the entire mode without dying (for beginner and advanced's extra levels), or without continuing (for expert's extra, and for master).

SMB2, on the other hand, features all kinda of crazy-ass flying contraptions and other such shit in its levels. A lot of people on GAF and elsewhere will claim that this makes the game all about luck, but I disagree. There are absolutely 0 SMB2 levels that don't have a consistent way to clear them. It does make the game less of an absolute, pure "you are one with your monkey and the course" type deal, but it also means there's a lot more variety in the levels. Its also quite a bit easier, overall. They changed how master/extra levels are unlocked, but even if they wouldn't have, a no-death run in SMB2 expert is much harder than SMB1. 1 is BRUTAL.
 
GDJustin said:
Well, they both can be found on the cheap, so I'm tempted to take the cop-out answer and say just get both. They really are both easily worth what they sell for, these days.

The single player in SMB1 is a much more hardcore, skill-based affair. Very few levels have moving parts, and the ones that do just have slow-ish platforms or something similar. Unlocking the extra and master levels in SMB1 is also much more difficult. You have to beat the entire mode without dying (for beginner and advanced's extra levels), or without continuing (for expert's extra, and for master).

SMB2, on the other hand, features all kinda of crazy-ass flying contraptions and other such shit in its levels. A lot of people on GAF and elsewhere will claim that this makes the game all about luck, but I disagree. There are absolutely 0 SMB2 levels that don't have a consistent way to clear them. It does make the game less of an absolute, pure "you are one with your monkey and the course" type deal, but it also means there's a lot more variety in the levels. Its also quite a bit easier, overall. They changed how master/extra levels are unlocked, but even if they wouldn't have, a no-death run in SMB2 expert is much harder than SMB1. 1 is BRUTAL.
Thanks for the tips. Since I'm poor, I think I'll go with one first. It'll last me longer :).
 
How the holy fuck did he do that in that video?! That is beyond sick, beyond impossible, and into the realms of "There is NO way I just saw what I think I saw happen!!!"

I've never seen that video before...wish I hadn't now because I'm all jealous :lol
 
GDJustin said:
Although you should certainly buy the game, be advised: you will never be able to do the things you saw in those videos ;)

I say "never" instead of "probably never" because the best SMB players are... I don't even know how to describe them. "Incredible" doesn't quite cover it. I played for world records for a year or so and at my peak I was 9th in the world, but the gap between me and the #1 player was as large as the gap between me and someone who has never played the game.

Ummm, just because you think you can't do it doesn't mean no one else can "never" do it.

I would say "unlikely", not "never".
 
Anyone who's played the game would say "never" :lol I'm good at the game but, to me, that video falls under the "I will NEVER be that good" category. ffs I don't even know how to explain HOW he did that :lol
 
Dr_Cogent said:
Ummm, just because you think you can't do it doesn't mean no one else can "never" do it.

I would say "unlikely", not "never".

I think most of us are beyond the age of 10 know that never doesnt mean never. The English language doesn't have any adjectives powerful enough to convey the skill exhibited in these videos (obvious to any SMB players). Thanks for ruining the thought though.
 
GDJustin said:
Well, they both can be found on the cheap, so I'm tempted to take the cop-out answer and say just get both. They really are both easily worth what they sell for, these days.

I like them both, but I much prefer the level design of SMB1 to SMB2. SMB2 has more "gimmick" levels that involve puzzle solving more than anything else--once you figure out the "trick" to them, they no longer provide a challenge. SMB1, on the other hand, is pure skill from beginning to end, with no real "gimmick" levels. And it has these beautiful levels now and again that are designed specifically to cull weaksauce players (Expert 7, e.g., which looks impossible the first time you try it, and then seems perfectly reasonable once you've spent more time with the game).

Also: the best I ever did with SMB1 was no-death runs through Advanced. That probably puts me in a pretty high tier among casual gamers, but the leap between "casual" and "hardcore" looks greater for SMB than for any other game I can think of--fighters, shmups, you name it.
 
Expert 7, e.g., which looks impossible the first time you try it, and then seems perfectly reasonable once you've spent more time with the game

I don't know why, but Expert 7 is still the only expert level that gives me a lot of trouble.
 
Morts said:
I don't know why, but Expert 7 is still the only expert level that gives me a lot of trouble.

That's weird. You'd think if you were good enough to beat the other 49 levels, you'd be consistent at E7 by now. I know that there were much worse Expert levels than 7, for me. 22 comes to mind.
 
Sweet Jesus Sex! That first video is unreal. Wierd freak.. you have to be inside the mind of a monkey in a ball to do that kind of stuff.
 
GDJustin said:
What did they do about the last level in SMB2? The rotating GameCube...
I'm not sure it's been answered yet but I read somewhere that not every level from SMB1&2 is in Deluxe. If it's true then I doubt the gamecube level will be kept. Can anyone else confirm this or am I being delusional.
 
Mr_Furious said:
I'm not sure it's been answered yet but I read somewhere that not every level from SMB1&2 is in Deluxe. If it's true then I doubt the gamecube level will be kept. Can anyone else confirm this or am I being delusional.

You are being delusional and I cannot confirm this.
 
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