majorgamer10
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The Joker has been a prevalent icon in recent times, and I'm just confused whether he means well or not.
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Is the Joker a bad influence?
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SirTerry-T
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He's a comic book character.
No more, no less.
No more, no less.
majorgamer10
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Yeah but comics have taken over cinema which means they have influence. You would have to stop watching movies to pretend otherwise.
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FatallyYours
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Agent_Nobody
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SirTerry-T
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He's only an influence if you are part of fandom that takes any form of media way too seriously.
Same as all those edgy twats that started wearing Guy Fawkes' masks after that shitty adaptation of V For Vendetta was released.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I’ve committed to modeling my entire life after Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker.
Now I’m pissed because I hate singing.
Now I’m pissed because I hate singing.
FunkMiller
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The Joker…. means well? Is he a bad influence?
What fucking planet are you on, chief?
The Joker is a psychopathic madman. Of course he doesn’t mean well.
Next thread: ‘Hitler: negative influence, or just misunderstood?’
What fucking planet are you on, chief?
The Joker is a psychopathic madman. Of course he doesn’t mean well.
Next thread: ‘Hitler: negative influence, or just misunderstood?’
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Bojji
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Northeastmonk
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The Joker is probably one of the best villains to ever exist. He can go from being silly, to being your typical big city crime boss, and then down to being sick and twisted. Brian Azzarello‘s Joker is the sick scumbag we all come to expect him to be past a PG-13 representation. Alan Moore’s Joker is sinister and the laughs start to become numbing as they pierce through the reader’s initial reaction to seeing the clown. The Long Halloween’s Joker is the Norman Rockwell interpretation of Joker. The New 52 had the Joker slicing his face off and stapling it back on.
So there’s many different ways to look at the character, but he’s more or less a bad guy.
If you consider the backstory of his pregnant wife dying. You could feel bad for him, but he picked the road he went down.
So there’s many different ways to look at the character, but he’s more or less a bad guy.
If you consider the backstory of his pregnant wife dying. You could feel bad for him, but he picked the road he went down.
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Incels love Joker.
Not the Heath Ledger version, though.
Not the Heath Ledger version, though.
Agent_Nobody
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To be serious (why so serious?): The main interest was that the Joker in Nolan’s The Dark Knight made him a character that was somewhat plausible…which frankly made him the most scary Joker out of any of them; he was absolutely ruthless, uncontrollable and manipulative but with no end point or goal in sight… and had the means to do it within real-world means.
The Joker movie made another where the origin was plausible…and it’s scary from a mental standpoint: (kinda taking a bit from Fight Club) where he is going mentally ill and creating a separate persona and going further and further but it makes people follow him.
As far as idolization it’s like idolizing the main characters from Natural Born Killers…which oddly enough was an actual thing back in the 90’s. It’s an odd genre where you’re supposed to hate and support the characters at the same time but some people get the wrong idea…
Similar to the book: ‘The Sad tale of the Brothers Grossbart’; The brothers are both characters that you should absolutely hate for what they do, but you kind of end up rooting for them nonetheless because of the story:
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The Joker movie made another where the origin was plausible…and it’s scary from a mental standpoint: (kinda taking a bit from Fight Club) where he is going mentally ill and creating a separate persona and going further and further but it makes people follow him.
As far as idolization it’s like idolizing the main characters from Natural Born Killers…which oddly enough was an actual thing back in the 90’s. It’s an odd genre where you’re supposed to hate and support the characters at the same time but some people get the wrong idea…
Similar to the book: ‘The Sad tale of the Brothers Grossbart’; The brothers are both characters that you should absolutely hate for what they do, but you kind of end up rooting for them nonetheless because of the story:
The Sad Tale of the Brothers Grossbart
Hegel and Manfried Grossbart may not consider themselve…
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Nonehxc
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Agent_Nobody
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Can you sing to us about your wife's perfect butthole?
Chuck Berry
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I’d say yeah
Jump forward 500 years and i think you will see ths very thing.
Hell, if the muslims succeed in "from the river to the sea" then hitler might get a statue!
I think some iterations of Joker, particularly where he is lashing out at perceived evils of society (versus committing robberies for personal gain) and he lands himself a hot sexy acolyte are quite dangerous to a segment that sees him as almost an anti-hero (the folks that run around saying Batman is a fascist are playing into this as well) to be emulated, rather than a figure to be scorned and imprisoned.
ConkerTheSquirrel.
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Werewolf Jones
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Heath Ledger Joker was for low IQ CoD players who thought they were twisted individuals.
Damn... I'm so... Different. Hehehe.
Nah, people are way more stupid and gullible already, them seeing selves as a anti-hero. Half of the country is voting on a narcissistic extremist without them even knowing. A Joker movie couldn't be more harmful then what's already happening.
Also, The Joker is just Scorsese's Taxi-driver, but set in a comic book world. How much harm did Taxi-driver do
Also, The Joker is just Scorsese's Taxi-driver, but set in a comic book world. How much harm did Taxi-driver do
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GigaBowser
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best joker in arkham games
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Shadow1414
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You mean to ask if a fictional character can reasonably have a genuine negative influence over real people? If so, no.
If a real person takes inspiration from fictional characters to do evil actions, commit self-harm, or stay in abusive relationships, that person is mentally ill.
If a real person takes inspiration from fictional characters to do evil actions, commit self-harm, or stay in abusive relationships, that person is mentally ill.
What an incredibly TERRIBLE reference to use to prove your point when Taxi driver (and specifically Jodi foster in it) is what drove John Hinkley to shoot President Reagan. And now here we are with TWO assassination attempts on a nominee!
StueyDuck
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I can't help but think of the south park episode with the Mexican joker.
EverydayBeast
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Every company is trying to find the next Joker
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I mean, he can get a laugh tho…
majorgamer10
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Well, Violence is superficial. The meaning behind violence is lasting, and confusing, sometimes.I can see why you're confused.
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majorgamer10
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Alot of my stuff should have been answered years ago, but here I am.
ForAcademicPurposes
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Well, he's certainly not a role model.
Puscifer
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near
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Maybe your understanding of violence is superficial, and that your confusion on whether or not the Joker means well stems from this.
donkey_oaty
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The joker is a bad influence, but so is batman
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Just a superficial wound.I can see why you're confused.
Angry_Megalodon
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One of the most leftist movies in recent history —and there's competition— and somehow it triggers the left because he's an incel (?) or whatever. Joakim Phoenix's Joker is just a lame madman whose only quality is being a perennial victim. That could only inspire people who like playing the victim card, which the Joker even carries physically.
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